On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 the voices made Jay Jacobs write:

> To put it nicely, I'd say this idea could use some refining.  It's very
> common for spammers to either spoof the source address or not check the
> mail once spam is sent out.

 True, and that's the part that I'm not happy with... at the same time as I
want to send out "this was deleted"-messages it will mostly hit people that
doesn't have anything to do with the situation.

 You could claim that keeping the noice-ratio down you're actually helping the
spammers get away with it all the time, and you could claim that these victims
are hit anyways and that a single needed message is worth several not needed.
 Actually, so far my tests seems to indicate that a majority of the addresses'
already been closed due to SPAMming and/or filled inbox.

> Since my ratio of real to false-positives is about 300:1 per week, I'd be
> sending out 300 wastes of resources a week.  They'd sit on my mail server
> (or someone else who didn't have anything to do with the spam anyway),
> taking up cpu, disk, bandwidth, etc.  The result would be some very upset
> mail admins.

 if you add up all the resources on all the servers if everyone did this, then
yes, it would be A LOT; but IRL it's marginal, where the only real hits are at
the systems where the foe/victim is located. That system ends up replying
550's, and should at most be slowed down or, if small enough, off the net for a
limited period of time.

> It'd be better to tune spam assassin to reduce your false positives then
> to implement your idea.

 My idea is already up and running, to be evaluated; and when I've got enough
data I'm going to add some checks that I think should easily spot maybe 50% of
the "true positives" (and therefor won't reply to them).


        /Tony
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