Should we leave color as it is now without?
I vote for "no color".
In the alternative, I'm in full agreement with using highlight, not
Pygments, for the reasons stated (which I've also
experienced). --thanks, karl.
Hi Michael - some quick answers. Maybe others know better.
Is there documentation how to configure or update the page?
https://savannah.gnu.org/cvs/?group=ddd
In short, do a cvs checkout (as project member) of the "webpages
repository". The exact invocation will be shown on that page.
A bit
I want (not wood like) to contribute l'argent,
Thanks for wanting to donate to GNU and the FSF. To do so, please use
the form at https://my.fsf.org/donate. If you have problems with that
form, please write the FSF at i...@fsf.org. (Please try to be specific
about what fails.)
We Savannah vol
What do other Savannah hackers think?
Since you asked, MHO is, reinstate. -k
Hi Daniel - Most LaTeX packages are released under the LaTeX Project
Public License, which is incompatible with the GPL, and therefore cannot
be hosted on Savannah, despite being acceptable free software licenses.
At least that is my understanding.
OTOH, if the LPPL stuff is only a dependency, e.g
1. What auto-discards spam is our "listhelper" setup. Description:
http://listhelper.nongnu.org.
2. admin_immed_notify must be set to yes for listhelper to function at all.
If you set it to no, no spam will be automatically discarded.
3. It is unfortunately not possible to auto-discard spam base
keep both options to choose (dual GFDL+CC-BY-SA).
Dual licensing is fine. Thanks.
the entire repository with all previous history of commits (some of
which turned out to be inconsistent with the policies) to Savannah after
adjusting the current commits to the requirements?
I don
cc-by-sa became gplv3 compatible.
Cool! I forgot that.
Still not gfdl compatible.
https://creativecommons.org/2015/10/08/cc-by-sa-4-0-now-one-way-compatible-with-gplv3/
In that light, I hope it would be allowed.
I fear it's still an exception that rms would have to approve :(.
Hi Anton,
CC-BY-SA is considered eligible for artworks, but it is not clear if
it is acceptable for the software documentation.
Generally speaking, CC-BY-SA is not acceptable for documentation (or
code) on Savannah, because it is not compatible with the FDL (or GPL).
That's not an issue f
One thought: in the event of textual changes to the mailman listinfo
page being desired, these changes should surely be made in mailman, and
a new release made, instead of thinking that every single mailman-using
site, and/or every list administrator, should make them.
I suspect the mailman mainta
until an actual Savannah administrator addresses my concerns.
1) Ineiev is an "actual administrator".
2) The policy has always been that Savannah administrators can exercise
judgement, and not be required to blindly accept every project
submission that meets the technical requirements. I see
The mail problems with lwip-devel aren't related to the upgrade.
I found that the spam detector that the FSF runs on lists.gnu.org was
wrongly considering many posts to the lwip task and bug trackers as
spam, and filtering them away. I've submitted a request to FSF sysadmin
to fix it, one way or a
I simply cannot figure out how to get the version number of the svn server
on nongnu.org. Can anyone tell me?
svn --version reports:
svn, version 1.6.12 (r955767)
compiled Aug 16 2015, 10:04:02
-k
I've disabled the language translations of savannah's messages, since
all the translations were out of date to some extent, many wildly so.
Info: https://savannah.gnu.org/support/?108827
If it turns out to be more helpful for users to have some partial
translations available (some are close to ok)
Hi Jan,
specific fix they did or whether other hardware/software upgrades
magically resolved the issue.
Glad it's working for you again.
Just FYI: it turns out it was a specific fix. There were other errors,
and I eventually I realized that there were two mailman installations on
lists
> Were there any system-wide changes to mailman that may have
> affected the notification settings?
Hi Jan - those daily notifications are sent out by a cron job, and I see
the usual cron entry is present on lists.gnu.org. /etc/cron.d/mailman
contains:
0 8 * * * list [ -x /usr/lib
Hi Jan,
I wrote to them over two weeks ago and haven't yet gotten a reply. Do
you know what the typical turnaround time is for non-urgent requests?
In my experience, there is no "typical" time. Sometimes they reply
right away, sometimes they don't get around to replying without
additiona
Hi Jan,
Were there any system-wide changes to mailman that may have
affected the notification settings?
A new version of mailman was installed by FSF sysadmin on that date
(April 7). I don't think the notifications messages were changed
intentionally. Can you please write them (sysad..
solara #> dig @8.8.8.8 public.p-knowledge.co.jp
public.p-knowledge.co.jp. 20466 IN A 192.168.125.3
Indeed, it looks like their name servers are messed up.
public.p-knowledge.co.jp. resolves to (the perfectly fine) 116.58.185.3
from ns1.p-knowledge.co.jp, but the unusable 192.168
https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/karakolas-equipo-gestor/
https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/karakolas-delegadas/
Pablo - I have removed those archives (and the sibling mbox archives
available via ftp). Sorry for the delay.
Savannah folk - they are saved in ~list/archive/ka
Fsfc-private
I agree with you that list has nothing but old spam in the archive.
Therefore I have just disabled it.
It seems like it would be a good idea for the savannah interface to
automatically make archives private when it creates a "non-public" list,
if it doesn't already. (I know it d
lists.gnu.org, lists.nongnu.org, and lists.libreplanet.org are all the
same server, and share one mailman installation. There's no way to have
a list f...@lists.gnu.org and a different list f...@lists.libreplanet.org.
There can be only one list "foo" among all three of those domains.
(lists.fsf.or
I tried clone repository with CVS and LSH but there're error.
No idea about lsh, sadly.
Obs.: How get Git repository for my new project?
Go to Main -> Administer -> Select features and check the "Git" box.
(There may be some <1hr delay before the repository is created, I don't
remember f
Savannah sends out email for every tracker submission. Maybe some of
them are filtered as spam somewhere between savannah and you. That is
the usual problem. Hope you can find them that way.
Karl
Hi Sam,
This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice:
Oops, you're right. Sorry for the bother. Haven't seen any more of
these so maybe it was just a glitch.
I think it is expected and specified behavior, not a glitch.
(Assuming you replaced the real address (antonio ...)
Hi David - do you recall the old email address that you used, even
approximately?
Best,
Karl
I know most people would disagree, but personally I feel the
"traditional" interface (i.e., mostly static web pages) is much more
readable and usable than the constantly-changing dynamic js-heavy
interfaces on github, or even sourceforge, and the like.
However, savannah is certainly not ruled by m
It might be changed to this https://gitorious.org/gitorious
Thanks, I updated it.
Karl
From: fr33domlover
To: savannah-users@gnu.org
Subject: [Savannah-users] project request for mirror
savannah-users isn't the right place for this discussion.
Will reply separately, cc-ing another list.
k
Hi Eric,
https://savannah.gnu.org/support/index.php?108579
As you've found, Savannah needs more active volunteers, both on the back
end and for handling submissions.
In practice, there has only been one person (Bob Proulx) handling
git-related requests for some time, and he has plenty of ot
> Maybe they should be CNAMEs. I don't know why they're not.
Oh. Because of the subdomains. Duh.
k
The question this raises is for what purpose are sv.gnu.org and
sv.nongnu.org used for? Why are there there at all?
As far as I know, shorter to type in address bars and email, etc.
That is all.
Maybe they should be CNAMEs. I don't know why they're not.
k
Hi Stephen,
Choices:
1) You can discard the control messages with a pattern like this:
^Subject: confirm [a-f0-9]{40}
2) We can use a placeholder address for the listed administrator; then
you wouldn't receive (any) messages from mailman in the first place.
You'd still be able to log in to the ma
I would be grateful if you could advise me how to complain about the
handling of the above grub report.
Vladimir is one of the primary grub developers, and the most active one
I know of. I guess I can only suggest writing (individually) to another
key grub developer and ask him to review
Hi Gord - I agree the registration page is less than crystal clear about
this, but indeed, it's not necessary for the project to be finished.
It's only necessary to have *something* done, which clearly you do, and
to agree to keep everything free in the future (which is one of the
checkboxes). Aft
Hi Bruno,
https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/ccd2cue-bug
https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/ccd2cue-support
It's normal/desirable for lists not to be completely deleted. Usually,
the lists have archives and/or membership lists and we wouldn't want to
lose those. In your ca
Would you like to have the mailing list managed by the listhelper
Bob: it already is :).
I created an email list for my project but didn't use it much.
Do you want to just disable the list (themnemeproject-general I assume)
entirely?
I'm no longer able to recover my password.
It's not possible to recover the list administrator password, anyway,
only the password as a subsc
Seven days ago, I filled out the form at
https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-ppc, but I didn't yet
received any request for confirmation. I also tried to subscribe to
the qemu-discuss list, also without any success.
I strongly suspect that the confirmations are ending up
Hi Jordi,
I want to give people permission to manipulate bug reports but not
permission to push to our repo? Is this currently possible?
It is not possible, as far as I know (though I am not 100% sure).
The only finer-grained access control I'm aware of relates to what
people can do with
Hi PCMan,
Is it possible to import the old mail archives from sf.net?
Yes, if you can give me archives in standard mbox format, it's easy
enough to import them.
In addition, there are quite a lot of bugs in the issue tracker.
But here, I'm afraid the answer is that no issue tracker
Hi Frankie,
From: Frankie Onuonga
There was no period in the address associated with the savannah account
(onuonga). I added it, so hopefully you can get through the email reset
now.
Best,
karl
Hi Pete,
Subject: [Savannah-users] New User form fails Antispam test:
Sorry for the problems. Indeed, no "peteasa" account shows up on the
administrative side. I don't know of any simple way to create an
account by hand (by design).
Accounts are still being successfully created, so it seem
How can I change my username? Is it possible?
I don't know of any way to change a user name. The only administration
script I can find to do it looks like it is years stale.
(For the record: infra/maintenance/rename_user.sh, per
http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/RenamingAccounts.)
We can d
you're speaking as a supporter of nongnu,
I'm speaking as someone who has spent a lot of time trying to improve,
and occasionally even achieve, consistency between various parts of the
GNU world. Bob has already thoroughly explained the situation (thanks
Bob).
saying you remain unenthus
> Is there like an automatic
> mechanism that updates the webpage during commits
Yes, exactly (namely hitting a given url). The machines actually
serving www.nongnu.org (and www.gnu.org) are maintained by the FSF
sysadmins, and are not part of savannah (and savannah people have no
access to them)
It is actually telling us what it thinks is wrong.
What I had in mind was a message specific to the purportedly-bad
password, like "sequence oo causes failure of N3". Maybe embedded in
debugging/logging/verbose kind of output. You get the idea. Anyway.
First I would definitely propos
$ echo Iephoo3i | pwqcheck -1 match=0 max=256 min=24,24,11,8,7
Bad passphrase (not enough different characters or classes for this
length)
That has three character classes, lower, upper, digits, and so
should need N3=8 characters. It is 8 characters long and so should
mee
frontend.sv.gnu.org:/var/www/savane/frontend/php/include/init.php
frontend.sv.gnu.org:/var/www/savane/frontend/php/include/account.php
(the repository being GIT of
http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/savane-cleanup).
Thanks very much, Ineiev.
I fully agree with your proposed changes.
Subject: [Savannah-users] Savannah Cryptographic Restrictions
Hi Fabio,
I'm not sure what you're asking. We certainly have no idea why
sourceforge does whatever it does.
The FSF determines the policy for handling encryption-related software
on Savannah -- they are the ones with employees ha
We are all agreed that the current savannah password requirement is
suboptimal, so there's no point in continuing to argue about it, there's
no one left to convince. What's needed, as always with savannah, is a
person to volunteer to figure out how to actually change it and do the
work.
karl
password must contain multiple character classes...
I think there is general agreement that the current password requirement
is not ideal. Savannah needs additional volunteers who can help with
back-end administration and hack on things like this. Until that
happens, it's not likely anything
Jan - listhelper is the only thing to remove, and I confirm that you've
removed it :). Assuming you're talking about recent messages
disappearing from the queue, I have no explanation :(.
Unless, as Bob says, the sysadmin-level filtering is doing it. But I
was under the impression that messages
Hi Felipe,
and see if I can help in any way.
Thanks for your interest in Savannah and offering to help. As you
noted, there is a large backlog of pending submissions. If you'd like
to help review them, that would be great. The more volunteers, the
better.
The basic description of how to s
is it possible to register a project to start it from scratch or I
need to have made some code already?
It doesn't have to work, or even compile, or be anywhere near complete,
but there needs to be *something* to look at for savannah project
registration. E.g., a README and a start at the
Hi Eric,
1. Where is the page that used to explain how to upload new project
releases?
2. I have an old release that I would like to delete. How do I do that?
If you're talking about a gnu package on savannah, the previous reply is
right. If you're talking about a nongnu package,
If I put both client and server under it, wouldn't that mean that
each client instance would have to offer its source code to the
server if requested?
It does? You mean if a user modifies the client? I don't know about
"back to the server", but they'd presumably have to make sources
Last time I checked, CVS is the only way to manage a web page.
That's correct.
There's probably some actual benefit to it that
There is no explicit "benefit"; CVS was the only distributed version
control system around when savannah was set up.
Supporting other vc's is on the list, but
Hi Manuel,
That's why I'm asking if I'm allowed to just register a project at
savannah to get a high quality mailing list?
It's never come up before. It hasn't been discussed explicitly among
the current savannah admins, but I think the answer is no, sorry.
The purpose of savannah is ul
Isn't there some sort of idea that GNU should limit the number of
"official" packages,
Well, there is no limit on the number, per se.
avoiding too many redundancies...?
Indeed, rms feels strongly that a new GNU package should not duplicate
functionality in an existing GNU package.
Hi Paulo,
1) in principle I suppose it is not out of question for gnu packages to
depend on a common nongnu but free package. But the first question
would be, why not make the common package gnu as well?
2) however, if you're talking about black.nongnu.org as the common
package, and I'm understa
Hi Eric - I have no way of knowing what happened, but I've reset the
password and will send it to you in separate email. Sorry for the
delayed reply.
On another front, did you intentionally disable listhelper for autospam
removal? And disable default_member_moderation? Just wondering.
(http://w
I'd like to know whether I could have the web access statistics for
the package I maintain. basically, I'd like the number of downloads
of the package tarball vs time.
I don't think it's possible. In general, downloads are redirected to a
random mirror and there is no mechanism to col
Yep, it's a clone.
Of course, but my point is, if you can cooperate with the maintainers
instead of producing an independent work and fragmenting what users see,
that would be nice.
k
My fork is not very different from gnowsys.
On a different front, if it's possible to work with the gnowsys
maintainers with your changes instead of forking, that would be nice ...
Best,
karl
Also, as a separate issue, can my email replies to the bugs be stored
in the bug tracker? I'd very strongly prefer to use email rather than
the web interface to discuss bugs.
Unfortunately there is no email interface to the savannah bug tracker.
(And not likely to be in the foreseeabl
I received this bug report about how Savannah's search function was limited:
https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?35289
So I tried to reassign it to Savane, but look what happened:
https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?35290
As far as I know, Savane development takes place on gna.o
Hi Paulo,
This is more of a question for savannah-hackers than savannah-users, but
anyway ...
do I have to have a tarball before I do that?
Not a functional tarball. As long as there is something. Just some web
pages would be enough.
I have to use GPL-compatible free software lice
Hi Steve,
Although in some departments Savannah and the GNU effort generally
seem to be functioning well,
I would not say Savannah is "functioning well". More like "limping
along with a minimal number of people [two] having a minimal amount of
time available".
lately I've noticed s
what's required?
Applying the (stringent) Savannah requirements to new submissions:
https://savannah.gnu.org/register/requirements.php
With more details:
http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/HowToGetYourProjectApprovedQuickly
The basic idea is to carefully go through the tarball and look for
Very regrettably, due to a lack of volunteers, new non-GNU project
submissions are no longer accepted on Savannah, as of
9 November 2011. If active volunteers come forward, Savannah
will be re-opened.
See https://savannah.gnu.org/register/ for more information.
__
In addition to Bob's reply ...
> The field you seek is probably:
> "Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit
> action is defined."
Which we strongly believe should always left at "Hold". Any other
setting has bad consequences for the list and the system as a
Hi Henry,
http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=510
Thanks for the report.
Please turn off write permissions to the Comments section of the
above site.
We've already disabled comments on all news (forum) items, a few weeks ago.
You may want to delete the site.
I r
Due to massive spamming of the "news" (aka forums) on savannah in recent
weeks, I've removed the UI that allows posting of comments on news
items. This applies to both gnu and nongnu.
*Original* news items can still be submitted and approved and posted as
usual, it's just replies and follow-ups w
Due to massive spamming of the "news" (aka forums) on savannah in recent
weeks, I've removed the UI that allows posting of comments on news
items. In practice, it seems that this was rarely or never used
legitimately (anyone who was actually making use of it ... sorry).
Original news items can st
Hi Steve,
I just noticed, people have been making junk replies on the FreeFont
News items for some time.
Yes, it's a big problem -- it's not just freefont, it's everywhere. I
saw your support requests too, and was discussing with Michael
(Flickinger) about what to do. For starters, he i
I've created two mailing lists through my project administration page,
What is your project identifier/url, and your savannah username?
Sorry for the trouble.
k
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonym...@cvs.savannah.nongnu.org:/sources/toon co \
-D "Mon May 11 16:29:26 BST 2009" TooN
Works for me. Network/firewall issue on your side, somehow?
Not sure where else to look.
cvs.savannah.nongnu.org(140.186.70.72):2401 failed: Connection refused
I can confir
Hi Jordi!
gave me root access to Savannah's servers a while ago. Would you be ok
if I try to use it to diagnose the problem?
Although this particular problem is (hopefully) resolved, per Michael's
email, let me extend a blanket welcome and appreciation for anything you
can do on the shel
Hi Martin,
I seem to remember reading that it is not necessary for a project to be
hosted completely on Savannah. But now I cannot find any reference or
documentation on this.
It's on
http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/HowToGetYourProjectApprovedQuickly
The point starting:
* No stora
I really would like to file a bug report but http://savannah.gnu.org
gives me "Failed to connect to database: Lost connection to MySQL server
at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 113" whenever I
try to connect to the site (is this only a problem for me?).
I have
Shailesh,
The confirmation message only goes to the new address, not the old.
I just tried the email change for my own subscription and the
confirmation came through fine (and the url it contained worked to
confirm the change). Maybe the confirmation got classified as spam by
yahoo? Nothing we
Hi Shailesh,
I am trying to change my email address using the option provided on
the page http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/gnewsense-users.
That's the place, all right. Right now I see
mailinglist11-savannahus...@yahoo.com subscribed to savannah-users. Is
that not what you intend?
Hi Olaf,
It looks as though the mailman interface of
http://lists.nongnu.org
DNS delay maybe? It is ok for me now.
lists.gnu.org and lists.nongnu.org moved to new (faster) hardware at a
new (better connected) location yesterday. There is a new IP address as
a result, namely 140.186.7
Hi Paul,
Is there any good replacement for SSI includes?
Only pre-generating with some other tool :(.
I will ask the sysadmins about reenabling IncludesNOEXEC, at least, and
let you know.
Thanks,
k
If you are using an invalid security certificate, may I ask why don't
you fix this problem?
It's not invalid. It uses a cert created by CAcert, which publishes
their sources under the GPL (unlike all other CA's). It was previously
decided to use CAcert for that reason.
We're reviewing t
New volunteers to join us in maintaining Savannah would be greatly
appreciated. Some specific tasks:
- Help with reviewing new project submissions.
http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/HowToGetYourProjectApprovedQuickly
- Work on bazaar/loggerhead integration at Savannah, e.g., right now we can
Hi,
Thanks for asking. It's a difficult area.
I'm not sure if such documentation would be considered a "manual" and if
GNU FDL would be needed for it to be hosted on Savannah, or could it be
licensed under GNU AGPL3 or later.
I'm not sure if there's an explicit policy about autogene
I was wondering if the binaries for that are on the website any where.
This list is about savannah in general. For questions about specific
packages, you should really ask on a list for that package, in this case
bug-myser...@gnu.org.
However, you might check http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/myserver.
also, DIUC that the .symlinks files are now ignored?
.symlinks is not (and never was) ignored.
http://www.gnu.org/software/clisp/impnotes/socket.html
[An error occurred while processing this directive]
But it is true that SSI is disabled now.
http://www.mail-archive.com/savannah-hack
I'm sorry, the whole problem appears to have been on the server side
(all of www.gnu.org was also dead). Fixed now, it seems. (I have no
idea what happened.)
Sorry,
k
http://www.nongnu.org/kropki/
is not working - returns error 403 (Forbidden).
Btw, similar error is on http://www.nongnu.org/cvs/#documentation
Hmm, I get 500 Internal Server Error right now, for both kropki and cvs.
See
http://www.mail-archive.com/savannah-hackers-pub...@gnu.org/ms
> I try to compile ltib with lm_sensors package but it cannot downlaod
> lm_sensors-powerpc-1.patch from site.
You need to write to somewhere relating to lm_sensors. The
savannah-users list is for savannah as a whole, not any one package.
Good luck,
karl
But from my understanding it is okay to put binary packages into the
download area (I do it) as long as the corresponding source code is
there too.
Packages for proprietary systems are okay as long as the functionallity
is also available on free systems. There may be nothing ex
I don't know if is it right address for corresponding or not
It isn't. savannah-users is for discussion of savannah in general, not
particular projects hosted there. You should send your question to the
developers of whatever software it is you're using.
Good luck,
Karl
Tom -- I removed you from the classp...@gnu.org list.
Mark -- you might want to update the web pages, one way or another.
Best,
k
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:01:55 +0100
From: "Tom Walker"
To: savannah-users@gnu.org
Subject: [Savannah-users] mailing list problems with project classpath
Hi,
I ap
Hi,
Subject: [Savannah-users] Octave profile timing
You need to ask this on an octave mailing list, I suppose
h...@octave.org. (From http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/help.html.)
Good luck,
Karl
Hello Neetu,
I am new to CVS and as its a open source so we are interested in
CVS is released under the GNU GPL. See http://gnu.org/licenses/ for
lots of information about it.
Best,
Karl
P.S. I'd like to mention that we at Savannah and the GNU project aren't
part of the "open source" move
beuc> Free software users mustn't be enticed to use proprietary software.
Most certainly.
However, in general I don't see anything wrong with using
NaturallySpeaking (or proprietary software XYZ) for the specific purpose
of replacing it. That is exactly what rms had to do to bootstrap GNU,
w
I recived a spam to bug-sovix-ow...@gnu.org yesterday. How is that
possible if that mailing list are disabled?
Ah, the -owner address is a different case than the list itself.
What does "forged" mean? My english is to bad.
Much spam has a To: header that says address A, but it was ac
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