[sage-devel] Axiom Wiki and Axiom Portal

2007-11-24 Thread Bill Page
register at the new site: http://axiom-portal.newsynthesis.org and if necessary ask me for help in transferring the content. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group

[sage-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: AMS Notices: Open Source Mathematical Software

2007-11-26 Thread Bill Page
probably never will be. > ... I cannot imagine how you could reach that conclusion. As a user of both Microsoft products and FireFox and OpenOffice on Windows in a production work environment I consider OpenOffice and FireFox very clearly superior to what Microsoft produces. Regards, Bill Page.

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.8.14 on Solaris

2007-11-27 Thread Bill Page
broken. Patches welcome ;) > I am interested in Sage binaries on Solaris 10 for both Sparc and Intel. Please let us know when and where you have a chance to do this. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@g

[sage-devel] Re: build failure using clisp

2007-12-05 Thread Bill Page
t it quite possible that this version may not build on OSX etc. however I know that the clisp developers have made some significant improvements in the build since 2.41. I would be glad in anyone can try this 'clisp-2.43-alpha.spkg' and let me know what w

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: build failure using clisp

2007-12-05 Thread Bill Page
namic-ffi'. Regards, Bill Page. On 12/5/07, Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill Page wrote: > > While trying to build fricas: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd ~/fricas-src > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/fricas-build$ cd ~/fricas-build >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-2.9.alpha1 released

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Page
ey have developed a work around? Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-2.9.alpha1 released

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Page
oss their fingers that it works. > +1 Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.goog

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] sage package

2008-01-17 Thread Bill Page
ually wanting to use Axiom/FriCAS in sage. Regards, Bill Page. On 17 Jan 2008 20:28:49 +0100, Martin Rubey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Bill, > > I try to push it a little: do you think you could make a new fricas package > for > sage. It seems to me that the la

[sage-devel] Re: sage package

2008-01-17 Thread Bill Page
On 1/17/08, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [I am not CCing the FriCAS google group since I am not subscribed] > > On Jan 17, 10:44 pm, "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > > > > In principle doing a new fricas4sage release is fai

[sage-devel] [the Algebraist Network] Your user profile at Algebraist

2008-03-27 Thread Bill Page
Bill Page from the Algebraist Network has sent you a message: First of all, thank you to everyone for your interest and participation in Algebraist! Algebraist on crowdvine.com is intended as a "social network" between developers and users of Aldor as well as a front-end to other

[sage-devel] Re: Project

2008-04-20 Thread Bill Page
ed to do have a magic lisp machine working > since it uses a C compiler directly. > GCL uses the C compiler directly. I am not suggesting that GCL is necessarily the "right" lisp for Sage (or even that Sage needs a lisp compiler at all) but I do rather think yo

[sage-devel] Re: Project

2008-04-21 Thread Bill Page
out 4 months old. If I recall correctly 'Version_2_6_8pre' actually corresponds to the version distributed on Debian and would probably be the most likely to be stable on the largest number of platforms. > Bill Page -- I would be interested in any comments you might have. > For e

[sage-devel] Re: Project

2008-04-22 Thread Bill Page
at 2:41 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > On Apr 22, 7:36 am, "Bill Page" wrote: > ... > > The most recent branch 'Version_2_6_8pre' is what we normally > > use to build Axiom. There is a change about 4 months old. If I > > recall correctly 'Version_2_6_8pre&#

[sage-devel] Re: Project

2008-04-22 Thread Bill Page
library was licensed to Maple circa 2000, NAG found themselves in a bit of a conflicted position. > ... > Nope, I am fully aware of "the power of Sage." But "let's get $FOO > into Sage" is not the solution and will not magically make a project > better. >

[sage-devel] Re: Project

2008-04-22 Thread Bill Page
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:42 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Bill Page wrote: > ... > > I should also admit that most of my rant in the previous email > > was in fact a prelude to asking William to try to intervene with > > NAG on

[sage-devel] Re: FriCAS/Open-Axiom and SAGE

2008-04-23 Thread Bill Page
ery like that it could make it in. FriCAS full [without gcl] weighs > in at 9MB, so if you can strip out unneeded parts for an initial bare > bone distribution it would be great. > Do you mean, for example eliminating the hyperdoc browser and Axiom graphics? I think that trying to eliminate m

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: FriCAS/Open-Axiom and SAGE

2008-04-23 Thread Bill Page
ribe the tools used to build the Axiom library. Have you tried hyperdoc to navigate the mathematical structure? If you really mean "at the file level", the files that you will probably care most about are those found in the src/algebra directory. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Sage, Maxima, Lisp

2008-04-23 Thread Bill Page
into the Aldor C run-time system or maybe linking the Python into the lisp image that runs Axiom? What do you think? Is this crazy? Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this

[sage-devel] Re: ISSAC abstract

2008-04-30 Thread Bill Page
ts available to Gap and then compute something that you display a fancy 3d graphic etc. What is the importance of Python as the interpreter? What about trade-offs for compiled code in Cython or interfaces to external libraries? How important is the web-based notebook interface? ... Just some differ

[sage-devel] Re: ISSAC abstract

2008-04-30 Thread Bill Page
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:53 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Bill Page wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:57 AM, William Stein wrote: > > > > > > I'm giving a plenary talk at ISSAC in Linz, Austria this summe

[sage-devel] Re: fast vs viable (offline post)

2008-05-01 Thread Bill Page
ing tools (email and irc). Perhaps that's a reasonable > thing to talk about for that conference... > I think it would be great if you could spend at least 50% of your talk on this subject - or better - way not plan to give two talks! :-) > ... Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~

[sage-devel] Re: ISSAC abstract

2008-05-01 Thread Bill Page
revious abstract (the second one?, definitely not the first) seemed like a good balance to me: What is Sage? What can it do? This one is more about: What you would like to do to make Sage more than what it is so far. It seems to me that at best that deserves a few minutes toward the end of the seco

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: Tensor products

2008-05-07 Thread Bill Page
ver one might do with category theory in Sage is likely to require or at least interact with such generic programming features. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group

[sage-devel] Re: problem installing fricas

2008-05-28 Thread Bill Page
rom: http://www.sagemath.org/packages/optional the file SPKG.txt shows that the version apparently came from Burcin Erocal on April 1, 2008: ... == Changelog == === fricas-1.0.2 (Burcin Erocal) === * update to FriCAS-1.0.2 release === fricas-0.3.1 (Bill Page) === * FriCAS-0.3.1 release Certainly it is t

[sage-devel] Re: problem installing fricas

2008-05-28 Thread Bill Page
> interpreted mode works already] and FriCAS's test suite on > the latest ecl is actually about 30% faster than clisp. And there > are already speed ups beyond that. > Has this result for FriCAS been previously reported somewhere? What is the build time for the complete sy

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-03 Thread Bill Page
lics. > > Ironically, other people see it as a plus that coercion has > been given a more categorical founding. > Absolutely! :-) BTW, where can I read more about these categorical concepts that are currently built-in or planned for Sage? Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~-

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-03 Thread Bill Page
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >>> >>> On Jun 3, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Gary Furnish wrote: >>> ... >>>>

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-04 Thread Bill Page
on to correct or comment as time permits, that would be great. On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > On Jun 3, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Bill Page wrote: > >> How does it [categories in Sage] relate to the >> concept of "parent" - which seems equally i

[sage-devel] parent of component of CartesianProduct

2008-06-04 Thread Bill Page
C([1,1]) sage: parent(t[0]) Integer Ring sage: parent(t[1]) Integer Ring - Notice that the parent of t[1] is incorrect in the 2nd case. Is there any interest in also implementing the Co-product constructor? What about Record and Union construc

[sage-devel] Re: parent of component of CartesianProduct

2008-06-04 Thread Bill Page
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:07 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> >> Is there any interest in also implementing the Co-product constructor? > > Yes. > >> What about Record and Union constructors? >> > > I do

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-04 Thread Bill Page
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:07 AM, Bill Page wrote: > ... >> >> These seem consistent to me, albeit rather complex. However I am >> not sure I understand the following: >> >> sage: parent(Integ

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-04 Thread Bill Page
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >>> >>> David's explanation of this is right on. We need parent() to work >>>

[sage-devel] Re: parent of component of CartesianProduct

2008-06-05 Thread Bill Page
perhaps that Python does not currently implement record or union, although it has been considered as a possible extension to Python by the original developer: http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=86641 It is possible to write a Python class that provides these types. Regards, Bill Page

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-05 Thread Bill Page
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:47 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> ... >> Python classes can also take parameters. > > I didn't know that. I thought the only way to create a Python class > is for the Python interpreter t

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-05 Thread Bill Page
es built at runtime like this > was fine but not a good option for performance reasons, but the > example above shows the overhead of python class creation time > is not so significant. > Agreed. Python can treat types as fully first class objects. I think this strongl

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-05 Thread Bill Page
siderable simplification compared to the current situation. Right now a Sage user has to deal with three separate type-related concepts: type (Python class), parent (an object in some category) and category. Metaclasses are a good match for Categories. Thus you

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-05 Thread Bill Page
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:35 PM, Bill Page wrote: > ... > Types are all about the implementations of things, they > synonymous with the "classes" of Object Oriented programming, > and are insufficient (and the wr

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-05 Thread Bill Page
Type: NonNegativeInteger Finite and CommutativeRing are categories. characteristic is a method of Integer. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[sage-devel] Re: coercing of sqrt(2)

2008-06-06 Thread Bill Page
sses, but considered using them this way so >> > unnatural and ugly that I would not recommend it. >> > >> > On 6/5/08, Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Do you still consider the example code like that given above by >> Gonzalo "unnatu

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: SAGE and FriCAS

2008-08-18 Thread Bill Page
Martin, On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Martin Rubey wrote: > > Bill Page writes: > >> I am not so sure that a similar role can be played by FriCAS. >> The FriCAS/Axiom libraries are not so easily called by an >> external program. Instead we have the same option to

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: SAGE and FriCAS

2008-08-18 Thread Bill Page
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> ... >> Anyway, I think there is a lot of potential for improvement in the >> existing 'axiom.py' interface even without considering how to &g

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: SAGE and FriCAS

2008-08-18 Thread Bill Page
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> ... >> There is supposed to be an "easy" way to call programs compiled >> with ECL from C (and thus via some suitable wrapper from Python >> or

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: SAGE and FriCAS

2008-08-18 Thread Bill Page
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> >> ... It is not so easy to call Python code from a C mainline >> program either, is it? > > Thanks to Cython, it is very easy to call my Python implement

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: SAGE and FriCAS

2008-08-18 Thread Bill Page
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> >> Ok, thanks for the example. Yes I admit that using Cython this way >> is quite nice. It makes me think that maybe it would be interesting >> to write su

[sage-devel] Fwd: axiom

2008-08-19 Thread Bill Page
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:23 AM Subject: Re: axiom To: Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, please post it to sage-devel and I'll reply there. I wasn't sure what your reply would be

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: axiom

2008-08-21 Thread Bill Page
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:50 AM, mhampton wrote: > > I really need to go to sleep so I won't do a top-ten, but here's a > top 2: > > 1) Powerful substitutions and rules. Sage does not have anything > comparable. The .subs() function is buggy even in its limited > domain. There have been previo

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Sage's Axiom/FriCAS Interface

2008-09-01 Thread Bill Page
ttp://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4028 Great. I have applied these changes to my test version of axiom interface. > Things like the online help didn't work with either the fricas spkg > or just on a local copy, but I'd be more than happy to help adding > that functional

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Fortran names in unparse

2008-09-06 Thread Bill Page
d774a64568/sage/interfaces/macaulay2.py. > The way an object gets converted into Sage depends on its type in > Macaulay2. > Do you think the way it was done in maxima.py was not correct? > What's more important than what string representations you choos

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Fortran names in unparse

2008-09-06 Thread Bill Page
elf: > foosage = foo._sage_() # i.e. convert to Sage and then to the other > system return self(foosage) > Yes, I think this is a good idea that allows the external interface to be more intelligent. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.1.2.alpha4 released

2008-09-06 Thread Bill Page
rate email thread, I believe that the axiom interface should implement essentially the same functionality as the maxima interface with at least some extensions to account for the Axiom type system. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group,

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.1.2.alpha4 released

2008-09-06 Thread Bill Page
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> >> #4028: Mike Hansen: doctest and improve sage/interfaces/axiom.py >> [Reviewed by Michael Abshoff] > > I have looked carefully at the changes to 'axiom.py' by Mike Hansen > and I think there is a se

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Sage 3.1.2.alpha4 released

2008-09-06 Thread Bill Page
all of the available precision in the internal representation. Perhaps this could be implemented in Sage as a mpfr function call? If you wrote: sage: axiom('2.123::DoubleFloat') you would see what you expect. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~-

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Sage 3.1.2.alpha4 released

2008-09-06 Thread Bill Page
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Bill Page wrote: > On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Mike Hansen wrote: >> >> I still find the following behavior much worse than the current >> behavior (which is why I made the change): >> >> sage: axiom(2.123) >> float(15

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Sage 3.1.2.alpha4 released

2008-09-06 Thread Bill Page
Here is a better definition: def float(x,e,b): return RealField(axiom('precision()$Float'))(x)*b^e On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Bill Page wrote: > On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Mike Hansen wrote: >>> &g

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Axiom interface

2008-09-07 Thread Bill Page
ger > * Are constructors like "Polynomial" first class objects? I can't > seem to assign "Polynomial" to a variable -- it always wants it to > be filled in like "Polynomial Integer". > Types are first class ob

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Axiom interface

2008-09-08 Thread Bill Page
it can't find anything smarter to do. > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Bill Page wrote: > Excellent. I have applied this patch to > sage-3.1.2.alpha4-sage.math-only-x86_64-Linux and with fricas-1.0.3 > installed. I tried a few things and so far it seems to work great! > I'll

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Axiom interface

2008-09-09 Thread Bill Page
with("set_"): name = name[4:] + "!" FunctionElement.__init__(self, object, name) -- Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group,

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Axiom interface

2008-09-09 Thread Bill Page
re.DOTALL+re.MULTILINE) s=cleanup.sub(r'\n',s) s=cleanup.sub(r'\n',s) print cleanup.sub(r'\n',s) This provides preliminary support for compiling new Axiom library code written in the Spad language. Regards,

[sage-devel] Aldor for Sage

2008-09-10 Thread Bill Page
erface to something under 5 minutes. With the work being done by Pippijn on the Aldor compiler, it may soon also be possible to package Aldor itself as an optional Sage package. Because of licensing issues the FriCAS and Aldor package for Sage must currently remain separate. I am doubtful however if com

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] How do I get the most current version of axiom.py

2008-09-13 Thread Bill Page
page under the heading: Download in other formats Click the link * Original Format This is the format you can use with patch. There were a couple of other changes that I suggested in emails to Mike (including the compiler patch) but he has not yet included them here yet. Regards, Bill Page

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: axiom interface, was:: How do I get the most current version of axiom.py

2008-09-16 Thread Bill Page
Axiom function names form xxx_e and xxx_q to what I consider a more common convention of set_xxx and is_xxx. This patch also includes the necessary code to compile spad files @@ -362,6 +362,41 @@ Regards, Bill Page. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Martin Rubey wrote: >> >> I think the

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] How do I get the most current version of axiom.py

2008-09-16 Thread Bill Page
Foo will be automatically loaded when needed from /home/page/sage-3.1.2.alpha4-sage.math-only-x86_64-Linux/devel/sage-main/sage/interfaces/FOO.NRLIB/code sage: axiom.bar(1) 2 without having to re-compile the source for FOO again. The NRLIB would remain there indefinitely until replaced or de

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] How do I get the most current version of axiom.py

2008-09-16 Thread Bill Page
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Bill Page wrote: > ... > After the fricas-1.0.3.spkg installation the Axiom library is located here: > > $SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/fricas/target/x86_64-unknown-linux/algebra > > This is where all the algebra-related object files are located. > Pr

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] How do I get the most current version of axiom.py

2008-09-16 Thread Bill Page
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Mike Hansen wrote: > ... > It is better to put it somewhere in DOT_SAGE > You mean like: out = self._eval_line(')cd '+DOT_SAGE+'/fricas/algebra', reformat=False) How/when to create this d

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] How do I get the most current version of axiom.py

2008-09-16 Thread Bill Page
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Bill Page wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Mike Hansen wrote: >> ... >> It is better to put it somewhere in DOT_SAGE >> > > You mean like: > >out = self._eval_line(')cd '+DOT_SAGE+'/fricas/alg

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.1.2.rc5/final released

2008-09-17 Thread Bill Page
nce I figure out how). Is there any problem with that? Regards, Bill Page. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:43 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > Hello folks, > > after 251 closed tickets here we go. This is rc5/final and likely > identical to the 3.1.2 release. There was an rc4 that never got > pu

[sage-devel] Re: in-place WYSIWYG text-cell editing

2008-10-10 Thread Bill Page
it might also be nice to be able to turn them off (display:none) when one get tired of the cues. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTEC

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: SF.net SVN: fricas:[429] releases/1.0.4/

2008-10-28 Thread Bill Page
review process. As I understand the process, I should also create a new trac entry for the additional changes I have made and post a patch there. Other FriCAS/Sage developers working in parallel on this would be a very good thing. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~-

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: field extensions

2008-10-28 Thread Bill Page
1 9828 - ? - - ? + - ? - - ? + - ? + - 18659 74636 18659 18659 37318 18659 sage: The string manipulation in the last three lines is the kind of thing that I would like to eliminate from the Sage/Axiom user interface by improving the in

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Categories for the working programmer

2008-11-10 Thread Bill Page
Warning: This email consists mostly of a "rant" on category theory, computer algebra, and a comparison of implementations that is somewhat tangential to the main subject. >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> >> The Sage concept of 'parent&

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Categories for the working programmer

2008-11-10 Thread Bill Page
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Mike Hansen wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Bill Page wrote: >> ... >> It seems to me that of all the existing computer algebra systems, >> because of it's strong and often pedantic type system, Axiom >> seems m

[sage-devel] Re: Categories for the working programmer

2008-11-13 Thread Bill Page
omment. In fact we have discussed this previously in the thread: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/msg/423c69d7f48dcd3d David Harvey proposed what I think is a more precise definition of "parent": >> Bill Page wrote: >>> How does it related to the concept of "pa

[sage-devel] problem with sage -update to sage-2.1 on SuSE 10.2

2007-02-09 Thread Bill Page
2.0> -- Any advice? Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage

[sage-devel] Re: problem with sage -update to sage-2.1 on SuSE 10.2

2007-02-09 Thread Bill Page
On February 10, 2007 1:10 AM William Stein wrote: > > Use "sage -upgrade" not "sage -update". > Yes, sorry, that was a typo. I *did* use sage -upgrade ( 'sage -update' gives an error message now.) > > On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:53:38

[sage-devel] Re: problem with sage -update to sage-2.1 on SuSE 10.2

2007-02-11 Thread Bill Page
nload verification by checking signatures such as an 'md5sum'? Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options,

[sage-devel] first axiom command hangs sage

2007-02-11 Thread Bill Page
ed as expected on my OpenSuSE 10.2 x86 linux system. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://gro

[sage-devel] Re: problem with sage -update to sage-2.1 on SuSE 10.2

2007-02-11 Thread Bill Page
the experimental build-improvements branch of Axiom on OS X. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, v

[sage-devel] FW: [Axiom-math] [ANN] Axiom Workshop 2007

2007-02-22 Thread Bill Page
Perhaps of interest to some Sage developers ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Rubey Sent: February 22, 2007 2:30 PM To: axiom-mail; axiom-math; aldor-l; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Axiom-math] [ANN] Axio

[sage-devel] Re: Tests of sage.

2007-03-07 Thread Bill Page
g until I pressed control-C. Thereafter, if > > I repeated the command, or other Axiom commands, everything would > > work fine. > > I think my fix was just to send an extra line to axiom on startup. > This should work

[sage-devel] RE: Tests of sage.

2007-03-07 Thread Bill Page
if you have any more problems. Regards, Bill Page. On February 1, 2007 10:25 PM Bill Page wrote: > > Thank you for testing this. > > I have been able to reproduce this problem. The same thing > happens to me. I am looking into the problem and I will let > you know a solution

[sage-devel] Summer of Code

2007-03-19 Thread Bill Page
Summer of Code cycle. See: http://lispnyc.org/soc.clp for details. Summer of Code proposals for these or similar projects will be greatfully considered by LispNYC and the Axiom developers. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: Summer of Code

2007-03-19 Thread Bill Page
On March 19, 2007 2:44 PM Bill Page wrote: > > Students of Sage might be interested in the Axiom/Sage project > supported by an Axiom sister organization (LispNYC) that has > been accepted for the Google Summer of Code program. Axiom had > a previous successful Summer of Code p

[sage-devel] Science calls Sage a "supercomputer"

2007-03-23 Thread Bill Page
las project. In spite of the hype, this is of course a momentus result! Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, vi

[sage-devel] Re: SymPy

2007-04-13 Thread Bill Page
: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxSymPy It might be interesting to know (and a bit galling - at least it was for me as an Axiom developer) to know that the SymPy got 5 Google Summer of Code funded projects! Axiom partnered with LispNYC for SOC 2007 but we did not get any qualified applications

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: [Maxima] Computer algebra system? / SAGE and Pipes

2007-05-12 Thread Bill Page
he Sage design. Surely rather than passing on these messages from list to list, it would be better for each group if the participants in the discussion where subscribed to those lists where the discussion can take place more naturally. :-) Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~---

[sage-devel] Fwd: [sage-devel] predefined symbolic variable names

2007-07-07 Thread Bill Page
On 7/7/07, William Stein wrote: > ... > So I propose that the only symbolic variables that are predefined > are x (since it's so useful to have this predefined), I (=sqrt(-1)), > and e (=2.7...). > If users want a symbolic variable, they have to use the var command. > ... In my opinion there shou

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: article for CCA/SIGSAM Bull

2007-08-04 Thread Bill Page
But many people have hoped for a more open license what would be compatible with Axiom. > > > > > > Just to add agreement to that, I have no interest in distributing > > > any non-open source code, as defined by the Open Source Initiative. > > > David's probably

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: article for CCA/SIGSAM Bull

2007-08-05 Thread Bill Page
t several significant things have happened in the Axiom project since then and development is proceeding in spite of the current disagreements in the Axiom project. So now that Aldor will be freely available for non-commercial use I think this is just one small positive step for

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Bill Page
like Maxima has not been successfully ported to Windows. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at

[sage-devel] Reduce package for Sage

2007-08-07 Thread Bill Page
er of Sage people who might be interested in a Reduce interface. Regards, Bill Page. Ref: 1 http://www.zib.de/ 1 http://www.zib.de/neun 2 http://www.zib.de/Symbolik/reduce/ 2 http://www.zib.de/Symbolik/reduce/dist/geninfo.html 3 http://www.codemist.co.uk/index.html 4 http://www.reduce-algebra.c

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Bill Page
On 8/7/07, Alec Mihailovs wrote: > > From: "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > As technically hard as it might be, I think having a native Windows > > version of Sage - even if it includes only a subset of the standard > > packages - would like

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-08 Thread Bill Page
verage Windows user and some knowledge of Linux fundamentals. I do not know how or if it is possible to create a single installer file that would install all of this in one step on a virgin Windows system (with Administrator rights, of course). Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~--

[sage-devel] sage -clisp fails in sage-2.7.3

2007-08-08 Thread Bill Page
/clisp/base/lisp.run: No such file or directory I did 'sage -upgrade' and tried again, but the error remains. Any ideas how I can make this work? (It worked in sage-2.7.1) Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE in TeXmacs

2007-08-10 Thread Bill Page
really demonstrates the value of basing a computer algebra system on a mainstream language like Python. Thanks again. Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: article for CCA/SIGSAM Bull

2007-08-10 Thread Bill Page
technically compatible with both GPL and APL2. However I am not sure whether there is anyone currently interested and willing to do this. > ... Regards, Bill Page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To uns

[sage-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Wiki

2007-08-12 Thread Bill Page
On 8/12/07, William Stein wrote: > On 8/12/07, Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | The problem I have with (2) is that I might be trading one form of > > | tyranny for another ... Certainly the Sage project's apparent ultimate > > | goal of "assimilatio

[sage-devel] problem building Sage from the 'sage-2.7.3.tar' sources on sage.math

2007-08-12 Thread Bill Page
d to #. *** - UNIX error 9 (EBADF): Bad file number *** - UNIX error 9 (EBADF): Bad file number ... --- Build ultimate fails with the message "Lisp stack overflow" in an infinite loop. Is this a known problem? How should I procee

[sage-devel] Re: problem building Sage from the 'sage-2.7.3.tar' sources on sage.math

2007-08-12 Thread Bill Page
On 8/12/07, William Stein wrote: > > On 8/12/07, Bill Page wrote: > > I was trying to build Sage from the 'sage-2.7.3.tar' sources this > > morning but I ran into a problem. Here is a excerpt from the build > > log: > ... > Were you building like this: &g

[sage-devel] Re: problem building Sage from the 'sage-2.7.3.tar' sources on sage.math

2007-08-12 Thread Bill Page
On 8/12/07, mabshoff wrote: > > On Aug 12, 7:41 pm, "William Stein" wrote: > > On 8/12/07, Bill Page wrote: > > > > > > > Is this a known problem? How should I proceed to build Sage from > > > source on sage.math? > > >

[sage-devel] Re: problem building Sage from the 'sage-2.7.3.tar' sources on sage.math

2007-08-12 Thread Bill Page
On 8/12/07, Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > Unfortunately William's original suggestion of also redirecting stderr: > > > nohup make > output 2>error & > > did not work (same error message, same place). > ... I expect the reason for t

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