On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM, mabshoff wrote:
>
>  I googled for it and it seems lenny is using 2.6.7 while sid is using
>  2.6.7-36.1. So I might have gotten my wires crossed with unstable
>  here. So my bad.

Beware of the release numbering. The most recent reference I could find is:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gcl-devel/2008-01/msg00002.html

"2.6.8pre by contrast is nearer at hand.  I do think we will need a
windows installer for this release.  I'd also like a working mac intel
port.  Otherwise, the image (packaged as Debian gcl-2.6.7-36) is
carrying axiom, maxima, acl2, and hol88 to all 12 Debian platforms."

So I guess as of January this year Debian "2.6.7-36.1" was actually
"2.6.8pre" in cvs.

>  But it still raises the point that the website should either
>  have snap shots or a pointer to the Debian page. I know that
>  Camm is heavily involved with Debian, so I knew where to look
>  after the 2.7CVS failed for me the first time I checked it eight
>  months or so ago.
>

Yes it would be nice to have accurate up to date information at the
gcl website. Maybe a wiki would be nice but it still takes someone
with time and motivation.

>  > ...
>  > >  Well, I think NAG chose the "non-commercial only" license on
>  > > purpose.
>  >
>  > Well yes, of course it was on purpose. They have stated that they
>  > felt obligated to do this by the terms under which they originally
>  > received Axiom (and Aldor) from IBM.
>
>  Odd, IBM as a whole seems to be very OS friendly, but in reality
>  it somewhat depends on the unit you deal with.
>

I also suspect that if it were possible to approach IBM about the
license situation with Axiom and Aldor now, one might obtain a
different picture than the one presented by NAG. But NAG's
relationship with IBM was circa 1995 and this is now. Different people
are involved.

>
>  > NAG itself is a non-commerical organization.
>
>  Well, be that as it may, but their numerical library isn't free.

Therein lies the rub. Originally, acquiring Axiom was a way for NAG to
package and market it's numerical library. They did a *lot* of work to
link Axiom to the numerical library - all of which was lost in the
open source version of Axiom. When the numerical library was licensed
to Maple circa 2000, NAG found themselves in a bit of a conflicted
position.

> ...
>  Nope, I am fully aware of "the power of Sage." But "let's get $FOO
>  into Sage" is not the solution and will not magically make a project
>  better.
>

It seems to me that my proposal for the place that Axiom/Aldor could
have in Sage has more depth to it than that... :-(

> ...

Regards,
Bill Page.

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