[sage-devel] Re: latex output in the notebook

2008-12-05 Thread Stan Schymanski
I think it is a good idea consolidate the capabilities of all these functions in show(). However, is there a way to deprecate a function but still make old code evaluate correctly if it calls this function? Perhaps it would just be a matter of changing the docstring to 'deprecated, see show()' or

[sage-devel] Re: latex output in the notebook

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 1:42 am, Stan Schymanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Stan, > I think it is a good idea consolidate the capabilities of all these > functions in show(). Some sprint cleaning in that area would be pretty good. I don't think there are too many users, but deprecation is the way to go.

[sage-devel] Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, here goes 3.2.2.alpha0. We have been steadily merging patches and gotten some of the larger and more disruptive patches in. The most visible change is #717 by Gary Furnish which finally fixes a long standing problem with time out issues in doctests, i.e. with this release any hanging

[sage-devel] 31 one tickets in need of review - http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/report/14

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, as the subject states there are currently roughly 31 tickets in need of review in trac. See http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/report/14 for a listing by components. Some of them are already spoken for and are waiting on some feedback while others are up for grabs. If you are the

[sage-devel] Thoughts about getting rid of the extcode repo or resetting it.

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, the extcode repo in Sage is somewhat of a dumping ground what doesn't really fit anywhere else. Below is the disk use of all directories that aren't more or less empty: 44K dist 36K gap 24K images 1.2Mjavascript 228Kmagma 52K maxima 3.0Mnotebook 1.9Mp

[sage-devel] Re: Thoughts about getting rid of the extcode repo or resetting it.

2008-12-05 Thread David Joyner
I think I can rewrite the gap code in Sage now. However, it would be a rather large patch (read "patch bomb") though.I could also just delete it and the method in the class which uses it. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:54 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello folks, > > the extcode repo in

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: > Hello folks, > > here goes 3.2.2.alpha0. We have been steadily merging patches and > gotten some of the larger and more disruptive patches in. The most > visible change is #717 by Gary Furnish which finally fixes a long > standing problem with time out issues in doctests, i.e. w

[sage-devel] segfault issue

2008-12-05 Thread John Cremona
How worrying is this: In 3.2.1 we have: {{{ sage: K.=QuadraticField(2310) sage: C=K.class_group() sage: I=C.0 sage: I^-1 AttributeError ... AttributeError: 'FractionalIdealClass' object has no attribute 'is_one' }}} (cf #1052). Now I add one line in sage/rings/number_field/class_group.py, namely

[sage-devel] Other things which could be included for Sage

2008-12-05 Thread kcrisman
On a related note, for those who remember the Connected Curriculum Project at Duke and/or Project Calc, the PIs from that have a new (and nice) online text for calculus from a diffeq perspective, and are explicitly asking for: Additional CAS Options. Currently the activities, checkpoints, and exe

[sage-devel] Re: Other things which could be included for Sage

2008-12-05 Thread mhampton
I'm just forwarding this to sage-edu because I think that's really where the discussion belongs (although there is some overlap). I would be interested in discussing this at the joint meetings as well. -Marshall On Dec 5, 11:42 am, kcrisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On a related note, for th

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread John H Palmieri
On Intel Mac OS X 10.5, I'm getting failures after upgrading from 3.2.1: the first time I did './sage -testall -long', it hung after the tutorial, but I haven't been able to reproduce this. The other times, I'm getting "A mysterious error (perphaps a memory error?) occurred, which may have crashe

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread David Joyner
Installed fine and all tests passed on amd64 hardy heron. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:19 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello folks, > > here goes 3.2.2.alpha0. We have been steadily merging patches and > gotten some of the larger and more disruptive patches in. The most > visible chan

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 9:58 am, John H Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi John, > On Intel Mac OS X 10.5, I'm getting failures after upgrading from > 3.2.1: the first time I did './sage -testall -long', it hung after the > tutorial, but I haven't been able to reproduce this.  The other times, > I'm gett

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 7:19 am, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Jaap, > > Om Fedora 9, 32 bits after an upgrade from 3.2.1-rc1: > > -- > The following tests failed: > >         sage -t  "devel/sage/sage/rings/polynomial/multi_poly

[sage-devel] Re: Thoughts about getting rid of the extcode repo or resetting it.

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 4:49 am, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi David, > I think I can rewrite the gap code in Sage now. However, it would be a > rather large > patch (read "patch bomb") though.I could also just delete it and the > method in the class which uses it. What does the code do and wh

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread John H Palmieri
On Dec 5, 10:35 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 5, 9:58 am, John H Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi John, > > > On Intel Mac OS X 10.5, I'm getting failures after upgrading from > > 3.2.1: the first time I did './sage -testall -long', it hung after the > > tutorial, but

[sage-devel] Re: segfault issue

2008-12-05 Thread daveloeffler
I think you've uncovered a bug that had been masked by the is_one bug. If I'm not mistaken, I^-1 calls MultiplicativeGroupElement.__invert__, which tests whether self is one and if not returns 1/self. Obligingly, the coercion model (being asked to calculate 1/self) calls __invert__ again! (I conv

[sage-devel] Re: Thoughts about getting rid of the extcode repo or resetting it.

2008-12-05 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:37 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 5, 4:49 am, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi David, > >> I think I can rewrite the gap code in Sage now. However, it would be a >> rather large >> patch (read "patch bomb") though.I could also just delet

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread daveloeffler
I've also been getting the "mysterious error may have crashed doctest" messages, and on closer inspection I think there's actually a bug *in the doctest framework*, which causes it to report all failed doctests as "mysterious errors". I tested this myself by creating a Python file with a single fu

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 11:06 am, daveloeffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi David, > I've also been getting the "mysterious error may have crashed doctest" > messages, and on closer inspection I think there's actually a bug *in > the doctest framework*, which causes it to report all failed doctests > as "mys

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread Jaap Spies
daveloeffler wrote: > I've also been getting the "mysterious error may have crashed doctest" > messages, and on closer inspection I think there's actually a bug *in > the doctest framework*, which causes it to report all failed doctests > as "mysterious errors". I think you are right! Jaap --~

[sage-devel] Re: Thoughts about getting rid of the extcode repo or resetting it.

2008-12-05 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:54 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello folks, > > the extcode repo in Sage is somewhat of a dumping ground what doesn't > really fit anywhere else. Below is the disk use of all directories > that aren't more or less empty: > > 44K dist > 36K gap > 24K

[sage-devel] Re: Thoughts about getting rid of the extcode repo or resetting it.

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 11:27 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:54 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello folks, > > > the extcode repo in Sage is somewhat of a dumping ground what doesn't > > really fit anywhere else. Below is the disk use of all directori

[sage-devel] Re: segfault issue

2008-12-05 Thread John Cremona
That sounds right (and I'm sure it is). What is worrying me slightly is that I have a vague memory that I once edited that generic __invert__() code (possibly it was me who added the is_one() test. I would prbably be best to have __invert__() NotImplmented in the base class, forcing all derived

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: > Hello folks, > > here goes 3.2.2.alpha0. We have been steadily merging patches and > gotten some of the larger and more disruptive patches in. The most > visible change is #717 by Gary Furnish which finally fixes a long > standing problem with time out issues in doctests, i.e.

[sage-devel] Re: Thoughts about getting rid of the extcode repo or resetting it.

2008-12-05 Thread John Cremona
Two cents from me: (1) the gp scripts called "cremona" are largely, but not entirely, redundant now that what they do is either implemented directly in Sage (e.g. group structure for elliptic curvesw over prime fields), never wrapped anyway (Weil pairings for ditto), or better implemented elsewhe

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread John Cremona
Fresh build on 64-bit Suse: The following tests failed: sage -t "devel/sage/sage/interfaces/sage0.py" but a subsequent separate test passed. The original error message was: sage -t "devel/sage/sage/interfaces/sage0.py" A mysterious error (perphaps a memory error?) occurred, which may

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread John Cremona
2008/12/5 John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Fresh build on 64-bit Suse: > > The following tests failed: >sage -t "devel/sage/sage/interfaces/sage0.py" > > but a subsequent separate test passed. The original error message was: > sage -t "devel/sage/sage/interfaces/sage0.py" > A mysteri

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread daveloeffler
I've opened a ticket (#4719) for doctest crashing on failures. [mabshoff] > OK. I am seeing the numerical noise issue at #4276, but I would also > be curious about the cachefunc.py failure. The failure I'm getting is in the doctest for CachedFunction._sage_src_. Running with verbose mode on one

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 1:20 pm, daveloeffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi David, > I've opened a ticket (#4719) for doctest crashing on failures. Thanks, I commented on the ticket about the likely cause and CCed the right people. > > OK. I am seeing the numerical noise issue at #4276, but I would also >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: > > > On Dec 5, 7:19 am, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Jaap, > > > Can you check if a "sage -ba" fixes those issues? > This did not help :( Jaap --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegro

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 1:35 pm, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mabshoff wrote: > > > On Dec 5, 7:19 am, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Jaap, > > > Can you check if a "sage -ba" fixes those issues? > > This did not help :( Yeah, no surprise here since David Loeffler nailed the proble

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: > > > On Dec 5, 1:35 pm, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> mabshoff wrote: >> >>> On Dec 5, 7:19 am, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hi Jaap, >>> Can you check if a "sage -ba" fixes those issues? >> This did not help :( > > Yeah, no surprise here since David Loe

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 2:13 pm, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mabshoff wrote: Hi Jaap, > > It would also be nice if you could open a ticket for the numerical > > noise doctest issue you hit since the output from at least the first > > example seemed truncated. > > It is now #4720. Thanks. > >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: > > > On Dec 5, 2:13 pm, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> mabshoff wrote: [...] > >>> And if you are still hitting that odd failure in combinat on FC 10 >>> please open a ticket for that one, too. It might be a Heisenbug, but >>> experience has taught me that this is som

[sage-devel] Re: Thoughts about getting rid of the extcode repo or resetting it.

2008-12-05 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:20 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Dec 5, 11:27 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:54 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Hello folks, >> >> > the extcode repo in Sage is somewhat of a dumping ground w

[sage-devel] doctest problem in sage-3.2.1 on 64-bit machine

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Ghitza
Hi folks, I'm a bit behind the times. I just upgraded to sage-3.2.1 on my various machines and ran tests. All is fine except on [EMAIL PROTECTED] sage]$ uname -a Linux orphus.ms.unimelb.edu.au 2.6.9-78.0.1.ELsmp #1 SMP Tue Jul 22 18:01:05 EDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux where tests/boo

[sage-devel] Compilation failure

2008-12-05 Thread bourbabis
Hello folks. I'm afraid this is may be not possible, but however here is a suggestion. I strive to compile Sage on a somewhat weak/outdated hardware. Actually, the problem is not at all that compilation as a whole takes a very long time, but the fact that when a compilation of a given package whi

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread John H Palmieri
On Dec 5, 10:35 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 5, 9:58 am, John H Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi John, > > > On Intel Mac OS X 10.5, I'm getting failures after upgrading from > > 3.2.1: the first time I did './sage -testall -long', it hung after the > > tutorial, but

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 4:39 pm, John H Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 5, 10:35 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi John, > > It would be interesting to see if anyone can reproduce the upgrade > > problem on one hand and on the other if a -ba had fixed it. > > sage -ba crashes because i

[sage-devel] Re: doctest problem in sage-3.2.1 on 64-bit machine

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 4:24 pm, "Alex Ghitza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, Hi Alex, > I'm a bit behind the times. Maybe it is that down under thing where winters are summers and the water swirls the other direction? :) >  I just upgraded to sage-3.2.1 on my various > machines and ran tests.  Al

[sage-devel] Re: Thoughts about getting rid of the extcode repo or resetting it.

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 2:53 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi William, > I'm strongly in favor of this proposal. Cool, I am keeping an eye on this then, also in hindsight regarding John's comment about "his" pari code. The plan for 3.2.2 is to get the javascript spkgs broken out (which i

[sage-devel] Re: Compilation failure

2008-12-05 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:26 PM, bourbabis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello folks. > > I'm afraid this is may be not possible, but however > here is a suggestion. I strive to compile Sage > on a somewhat weak/outdated hardware. > Actually, the problem is not at all that > compilation as a whole

[sage-devel] Re: doctest problem in sage-3.2.1 on 64-bit machine

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:53 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe it is that down under thing where winters are summers and the > water swirls the other direction? :) > > Yes, it must be the heat getting to me :) Good that I'm flying to Germany in two weeks, that should cure me. >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:39 PM, John H Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 5, 10:35 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Dec 5, 9:58 am, John H Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi John, >> >> > On Intel Mac OS X 10.5, I'm getting failures after upgrading from >> > 3.2.

[sage-devel] Re: Thoughts about getting rid of the extcode repo or resetting it.

2008-12-05 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:57 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Dec 5, 2:53 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi William, > > > >> I'm strongly in favor of this proposal. > > Cool, I am keeping an eye on this then, also in hindsight regarding > John's comment about

[sage-devel] Re: Thoughts about getting rid of the extcode repo or resetting it.

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 5:12 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:57 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 5, 2:53 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi William, > > > > > >> I'm strongly in favor of this proposal. > > > Cool, I am keeping

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Dec 5, 2008, at 02:19 , mabshoff wrote: > > Hello folks, > > here goes 3.2.2.alpha0. We have been steadily merging patches and > gotten some of the larger and more disruptive patches in. The most > visible change is #717 by Gary Furnish which finally fixes a long > standing problem with time

[sage-devel] Subject: Application for SD 12 Funding - Deadline 5pm PST, December 12th, 2009

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
Hello, Sage Days 12 San Diego will be held January 21st-24th, 2009 at UCSD. Its focus will be on improving the quality of Sage by fixing known bugs from our tracker as well as ongoing work on an implementation of Jean-Charles Faugere's F5 algorithm for computing Gröbner bases. There are currently

[sage-devel] Re: Subject: Application for SD 12 Funding - Deadline 5pm PST, December 12th, 2009

2008-12-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Michael, On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 6:38 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > Sage Days 12 San Diego will be held January 21st-24th, 2009 at UCSD. [...] > The deadline for applications is December 12th, 2009, 5pm PST. The I think you mean that the deadline is December 12th, 2008

[sage-devel] Re: Subject: Application for SD 12 Funding - Deadline 5pm PST, December 12th, 2009

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 5, 7:06 pm, "Minh Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Michael, > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 6:38 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > Sage Days 12 San Diego will be held January 21st-24th, 2009 at UCSD. > [...] > > The deadline for applications is December 12th

[sage-devel] Re: segfault issue

2008-12-05 Thread Nick Alexander
On 5-Dec-08, at 10:57 AM, daveloeffler wrote: > > I think you've uncovered a bug that had been masked by the is_one bug. > If I'm not mistaken, I^-1 calls MultiplicativeGroupElement.__invert__, > which tests whether self is one and if not returns 1/self. Obligingly, > the coercion model (being a

[sage-devel] Performance problems with plot_fourier_series_partial_sum_filtered

2008-12-05 Thread mabshoff
This *sucks*: -- | Sage Version 3.2.2.alpha0, Release Date: 2008-12-05| | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.| --

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 released!

2008-12-05 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Dec 5, 2008, at 02:19 , mabshoff wrote: > > Hello folks, > > here goes 3.2.2.alpha0. We have been steadily merging patches and > gotten some of the larger and more disruptive patches in. The most > visible change is #717 by Gary Furnish which finally fixes a long > standing problem with time