[sage-devel] Re: sage-edu, standard API, etc.

2008-02-24 Thread mabshoff
Hello, I am limiting myself to less than one email per day in this thread :) On Feb 23, 2:58 pm, kcrisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think, though I'm not sure, that mabshoff has perhaps misunderstood > my points, probably because my post was too long, for which I > apologize. As I said, t

[sage-devel] Re: sage-edu, standard API, etc.

2008-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:59 PM, alex clemesha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:24 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:39 AM, alex clemesha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:0

[sage-devel] Re: Inequality solver

2008-02-24 Thread David Joyner
Thanks but this version is lacking a copyright notice, license (GPL?), and docstrings. See special.py http://www.sagemath.org/hg/sage-main/file/59538ebc8f3b/sage/functions/special.py (or pretty much any other Python module in SAGE) for an example of how such things could look. If it has solved Wes

[sage-devel] Re: Inequality Solver

2008-02-24 Thread David Joyner
This one is better, but still lacking the licence, for example. Also, did you see if sage -t isolve.sage passes? On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:35 AM, SBP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi again, > > I've just added some description so it show when typing isolve? > > Cheers. > >

[sage-devel] Re: sage-2.10.2

2008-02-24 Thread philt
sage -upgrade from 2.10.1 to 2.10.2: I got a failure here: package /opt/sage-2.10/spkg/standard/linbox-20070915.p6.spkg checking for NTL >= 5.0... found checking for GIVARO >= 3.0... found checking for C interface to BLAS... not found checking for others BLAS... not found **

[sage-devel] Re: harmonizing derivatives of symbolic expressions and polynomials

2008-02-24 Thread David Harvey
After hearing some ideas on IRC regarding the derivatives mess, in this email I propose a plan. It's rough around the edges. Comments welcome. CURRENT SITUATION There are currently at least 18 different functions for differentiation in Sage, attached to polynomials, power series, symbol

[sage-devel] Re: harmonizing derivatives of symbolic expressions and polynomials

2008-02-24 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 3:37 PM, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After hearing some ideas on IRC regarding the derivatives mess, in > this email I propose a plan. It's rough around the edges. Comments > welcome. > > > CURRENT SITUATION > > There are currently at least 18 different

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-trac] [SAGE] #2289: [with doc patch, needs review] make the constructions document prettier and more consistent

2008-02-24 Thread Alex Ghitza
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David, thanks for bringing up the interaction with #2274. Mercurial will definitely *not* like to merge the two doc patches, since I've made some changes in the coding theory section (in the histogram example, for instance, which we both noticed was

[sage-devel] installation sage

2008-02-24 Thread danielbrst
good day I try to install sage under Vista Microsoft. VmWare player work fine . i can also launch sage and notebook() command. but after i received this message error. see screen capture via this link http://www.monsterup.com/image.php?url=upload/1203861726.jpg. Is there someone with ideas abou

[sage-devel] installation sage

2008-02-24 Thread danielbrst
hello everyone I have somme difficults to run sage under microsoft vista. when command "notebook() is execute ,there is an error message : please see the capture screen for indications at link : http://www.monsterup.com/image.php?url=upload/1203861726.jpg if someone have an idea about this prob

[sage-devel] Re: sage-2.10.2

2008-02-24 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 24, 3:05 pm, philt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sage -upgrade from 2.10.1 to 2.10.2: > I got a failure here: Hi Phil. Does this happen reproducibly? I assume you are on Linux, but which distribution, CPU type, gcc and so on? > package /opt/sage-2.10/spkg/standard/linbox-20070915.p6.sp

[sage-devel] Re: harmonizing derivatives of symbolic expressions and polynomials

2008-02-24 Thread Carl Witty
On Feb 24, 6:37 am, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After hearing some ideas on IRC regarding the derivatives mess, in > this email I propose a plan. It's rough around the edges. Comments > welcome. Your proposal looks excellent. Carl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~--

[sage-devel] Re: installation sage

2008-02-24 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 24, 5:20 pm, danielbrst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello everyone Hi, > I have somme difficults to run sage under microsoft vista. > > when command "notebook() is execute ,there is an error message : > please see the capture screen for indications at link > :http://www.monsterup.com/

[sage-devel] Re: sage-edu, standard API, etc.

2008-02-24 Thread Carl Witty
On Feb 23, 11:59 pm, "alex clemesha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First off, thanks for doing those benchmarks, > they are pretty interesting to see! > > I want to stress that I think that this API discussion > should really *not* have anything to do with speed, > and this is precisely because of

[sage-devel] Re: installation sage

2008-02-24 Thread Michael.Abshoff
danielbrst wrote: > thank you for answered > > Please do not take discussions private. > i don't find anywhere the way :/home/sage/.sage .there is any folder > with the sage name . > > perhaps a probleme of installation ? > > I haven't checked the VMWare image myself, but the above direc

[sage-devel] Re: installation sage

2008-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:20 AM, danielbrst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hello everyone > > I have somme difficults to run sage under microsoft vista. > > when command "notebook() is execute ,there is an error message : You can safely ignore that error message. -- William > please see th

[sage-devel] Re: sage-2.10.2

2008-02-24 Thread philt
Hi Michael, > Does this happen reproducibly? I tried twice "sage -upgrade" and twice the same error (looks like it tries twice per attempt then stops) > I assume you are on Linux, but which > distribution, CPU type, gcc and so on? 64-bit Debian Lenny in a vserver sage:/# uname -a Linux sage 2.6

[sage-devel] Re: harmonizing derivatives of symbolic expressions and polynomials

2008-02-24 Thread Nick Alexander
As the author of the one of the patches, possibly soon to be obsolete, I like this proposal. The one thing I don't like is the name. I prefer nouns, as in A.derivative(). A.diff() is short for A.differentiate(), which sounds like an in place procedure to me. Standardizing on an abbreviat

[sage-devel] Re: sage-2.10.2

2008-02-24 Thread mabshoff
> > While I have > local/lib/libcblas.so Ok, is that $SAGE_LOCAL/local/lib ? The config test complains about a missing cblas: configure:24249: g++ -o conftest -g -fPIC -I"/opt/sage-2.10/local/ include" -I"/opt/sage-2.10/local/include/linbox" -L"/opt/sage-2.10/local/lib" -g -I"/opt/sage-2.10/

[sage-devel] Re: harmonizing derivatives of symbolic expressions and polynomials

2008-02-24 Thread David Harvey
On Feb 24, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Fallen Seraph wrote: > The function I was interested in was: > > g(p,q) = 2*q(exp((q+p)^4)+1)+p(2*exp((q+p)^4)-1) It's not clear to me whether the first q is supposed to be multiplied by the following stuff, or whether q is supposed to be a *function* being eval

[sage-devel] Re: doctests sloane-functions

2008-02-24 Thread Michael.Abshoff
Jaap Spies wrote: > Hi, > > From my IRC log: > > Not in detail. I downloaded the patch and looked at it a > little. > But it is obviously huge. > I was going to add stuff about the preparser at sd8 since > they seemed to want to know about it. > But since it increases coverage by 2% I am sur

[sage-devel] bug in diff for two variables (was Re: harmonizing ...)

2008-02-24 Thread Alex Ghitza
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fallen Seraph wrote: | The IRC channel suggested I post my related bug report here. | | Basically, using the "diff" function is giving me different, and | equally wrong, answers depending on the sytax I use. | | The function I was interested in was: |

[sage-devel] Re: harmonizing derivatives of symbolic expressions and polynomials

2008-02-24 Thread Fallen Seraph
The IRC channel suggested I post my related bug report here. Basically, using the "diff" function is giving me different, and equally wrong, answers depending on the sytax I use. The function I was interested in was: g(p,q) = 2*q(exp((q+p)^4)+1)+p(2*exp((q+p)^4)-1) To find the derivative wrt q

[sage-devel] Re: harmonizing derivatives of symbolic expressions and polynomials

2008-02-24 Thread Alex Ghitza
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I like the proposed plan. I also agree with Nick on derivative() vs diff(), but since the plan says that both will be around, I can probably live with that. Best, Alex Nick Alexander wrote: | As the author of the one of the patches, possibly so

[sage-devel] Re: first stab at #1422 (add bibtex function to get citation for Sage components)

2008-02-24 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi Alex, it looks like you are using a bunch of dictionaries for all the attributes like title, authors, etc. Wouldn't an object Reference or so be a better choice with appropriate attributes? Martin -- name: Martin Albrecht _pgp: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x8EF0DC99

[sage-devel] Re: bug in diff for two variables (was Re: harmonizing ...)

2008-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Alex Ghitza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Fallen Seraph wrote: > | The IRC channel suggested I post my related bug report here. > | > | Basically, using the "diff" function is giving me different, and > |

[sage-devel] Re: Patch for Tensor Product of Matrices

2008-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Simon King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear William, > > my usual mail server doesn't work, so i'm using a different address. > > I tried to implement a tensor product for matrices. I did so in matrix2.pyx, > as you suggested. The code is almost trivial, the exam

[sage-devel] Re: sage-edu, standard API, etc.

2008-02-24 Thread alex clemesha
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:13 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:59 PM, alex clemesha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:24 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:3

[sage-devel] Re: harmonizing derivatives of symbolic expressions and polynomials

2008-02-24 Thread David Harvey
Okay So pretty much everyone seems to like the proposal, and from discussion on IRC and sage-devel we're going to use derivative() instead of diff(), which is fine with me. I'm going to start coding as soon as I discuss with martin about the have_ring parameter issues david On Fe

[sage-devel] Re: harmonizing derivatives of symbolic expressions and polynomials

2008-02-24 Thread Nick Alexander
On 24-Feb-08, at 2:39 PM, David Harvey wrote: > > Okay > > So pretty much everyone seems to like the proposal, and from > discussion on IRC and sage-devel we're going to use derivative() > instead of diff(), which is fine with me. Woot! > I'm going to start coding as soon as I discuss with

[sage-devel] Re: harmonizing derivatives of symbolic expressions and polynomials

2008-02-24 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Sunday 24 February 2008, David Harvey wrote: > Okay > > So pretty much everyone seems to like the proposal, and from > discussion on IRC and sage-devel we're going to use derivative() > instead of diff(), which is fine with me. > > I'm going to start coding as soon as I discuss with martin

[sage-devel] Re: bug in diff for two variables (was Re: harmonizing ...)

2008-02-24 Thread Carl Witty
On Feb 24, 12:24 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem basically goes back to this. If you want the following > to work: > > sage: f = sin(x) > sage: f(2) > sin(2) > > Then you *have* to also allow the following to work like this: > > sage: f(q,p) = q(2) + p(3) > sage: f >

[sage-devel] Re: exact cover problem

2008-02-24 Thread boothby
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, William Stein wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Carlo Hamalainen wrote: >> >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Arguments for including Ajanki's code: >> >>