I don't think that anyone is making a case specifically against French
Universities any more than they are making a case against American
univerisities.
Some of us now have now had bad experiences on both sides of the Atlantic
(specifically France because they do host a lot of Free Software
in
>
>
>>>
>> Namely that GCE might also have some drawbacks (notably, not being
>> provided free of charge? perhaps others) and that there were people hoping
>> to make a university system work. If there is a technical disagreement (or
>> more than technical) on cloud versus uni, I'm not getting
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:27 PM, kcrisman wrote:
> Having now read the comment [1] I agree that while it may not be true about
> French universities in general, it was certainly phrased as "my experience"
> and was limited to the relatively narrow technical comment of who
> administrators might fee
On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:27:41 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote:
>
> Having now read the comment [1] I agree that while it may not be true
> about French universities in general, it was certainly phrased as "my
> experience" and was limited to the relatively narrow technical comment of
> who admi
Having now read the comment [1] I agree that while it may not be true about
French universities in general, it was certainly phrased as "my experience"
and was limited to the relatively narrow technical comment of who
administrators might feel comfortable allowing access to. I have already
bee
On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 3:24:43 PM UTC+1, Thierry
(sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 02:35:22PM -0400, William Stein wrote:
> [...]
> > I am flat out strongly against hosting the Sage wiki, trac, etc.,.
> > They should be properly hosted in the cloud, where
On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:35:19AM -0400, William Stein wrote:
> Hi Thierry,
>
> I don't really know who you are, and I've never met you. But given
> your claims that I'm "spreading wrong and racist statements about
> french universities"... etc., I guess I do now. Many thanks for the
> clarifi
Hi Thierry,
I don't really know who you are, and I've never met you. But given
your claims that I'm "spreading wrong and racist statements about
french universities"... etc., I guess I do now. Many thanks for the
clarification.
-- William
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Thierry wrote:
> Hi,
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 02:35:22PM -0400, William Stein wrote:
[...]
> I am flat out strongly against hosting the Sage wiki, trac, etc.,.
> They should be properly hosted in the cloud, where anybody can be
> added as admins,
FUD
> we can make global backups,
FUD
> move the machines to ha
Le 06/06/2016 17:17, Ralf Stephan a écrit :
> On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:22:02 PM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
> Or perhaps someone pulled a full private copy recently?
>
>
> Around end of April, I think, someone better?
>
> ralf@ark:~/sage/.git> find logs/refs/remotes/trac/| wc
> 723
>
> I will setup SSL once the
> domain name is correct (not before tomorrow).
>
>
>
Will you need the old certificate or plan to generate a new one?
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Eric Gourgoulhon wrote:
>
> Le lundi 6 juin 2016 19:08:44 UTC+2, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) a écrit
> :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> the wiki is back online at University Paris North :
>> http://sagewiki.lipn.univ-paris13.fr/
>>
>
> Thank you very much Thierry!
Thank you!
Le lundi 6 juin 2016 19:08:44 UTC+2, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) a
écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> the wiki is back online at University Paris North :
> http://sagewiki.lipn.univ-paris13.fr/
>
>
Thank you very much Thierry!
I've checked it on recently modified pages: the Sage Days 74 ones.
Everything i
Please someone switch the DNS to point to the resurrected sage wiki.
(cc-ing Harald in case he can do it).
Thanks Thierry!
Samuel
Le lundi 6 juin 2016 19:08:44 UTC+2, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) a
écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> the wiki is back online at University Paris North :
> http://sagewiki.lip
Hi,
the wiki is back online at University Paris North :
http://sagewiki.lipn.univ-paris13.fr/
It should work with wiki.sagemath.org domain name so please do not
hesitate to switch the DNS to 194.254.163.84. I will setup SSL once the
domain name is correct (not before tomorrow).
Once the data wil
IMHO thats not a big deal, some orgs are experimenting with permanently
running datacenters at 90+F...
The best course of action is probably to wait and get the machines back up.
Then slowly move the infrastructure out of UW.
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 11:27:39 AM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 3:57:41 PM UTC+1, William wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> The sysadmin just explained what happened -- namely the room has been
> cooking all weekend due to an AC failure: This means that everything
> might -- or might not -- come back in the next few days. There is no
> way
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:22:02 PM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
> Or perhaps someone pulled a full private copy recently?
>
Around end of April, I think, someone better?
ralf@ark:~/sage/.git> find logs/refs/remotes/trac/| wc
72317231 368968
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Hello,
The sysadmin just explained what happened -- namely the room has been
cooking all weekend due to an AC failure: This means that everything
might -- or might not -- come back in the next few days. There is no
way to know the extent of the damage, if any.
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On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 3:30:55 PM UTC+1, Frédéric Chapoton wrote:
>
> I do not think that the patchbots clients have a copy of the full git
> repo. They only pull branches. But they have the branch for 7.3.beta3, at
> least.
>
this one is just here: https://github.com/sagemath/sage/tree/deve
It's a devastating blow. But we will rebuild.
https://imgflip.com/i/15dnsh
On Monday, 6 June 2016 16:32:12 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
> Also flint/mpir/nemo sites are down (flint people know this), due to being
> on the same cluster of machines...
>
> On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 3:22:02 PM UT
Also flint/mpir/nemo sites are down (flint people know this), due to being
on the same cluster of machines...
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 3:22:02 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 2:18:36 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>>
>> On 2016-06-06 13:09, Thierry wrote:
>>
I do not think that the patchbots clients have a copy of the full git repo.
They only pull branches. But they have the branch for 7.3.beta3, at least.
Frederic
Le lundi 6 juin 2016 16:22:02 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik a écrit :
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 2:18:36 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 2:18:36 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>
> On 2016-06-06 13:09, Thierry wrote:
> > For the git/trac, i am not sure that it is a good idea to put a 2-weeks
> > backup read/write, because it will be awful to merge with the current
> > state. It is imho much better to
http://patchbot.sagemath.org/ is now also affected, even if it was working
at some point after trac's failure.
Frédéric
Le lundi 6 juin 2016 14:48:47 UTC+2, William a écrit :
>
> I've sent invites to the Google compute engine project to the following
> people.
>
> - Andrew O
> - Dima P
>
On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 03:18:33PM +0200, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> On 2016-06-06 13:09, Thierry wrote:
> >For the git/trac, i am not sure that it is a good idea to put a 2-weeks
> >backup read/write, because it will be awful to merge with the current
> >state. It is imho much better to have some dow
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 2:48:47 PM UTC+2, William wrote:
>
> I've sent invites to the Google compute engine project to the following
> people.
>
How do people coordinate usually in this setting? Mail cc? chat? group?
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On 2016-06-06 13:09, Thierry wrote:
For the git/trac, i am not sure that it is a good idea to put a 2-weeks
backup read/write, because it will be awful to merge with the current
state. It is imho much better to have some downtime since people can still
work on their local branch.
Sure, but the
Hi,
i am currently working on the wiki (my backup is <2days so there is almost
no lose, and it will be easy to merge the very few changes once we can
access the current sate).
For the git/trac, i am not sure that it is a good idea to put a 2-weeks
backup read/write, because it will be awful to me
and Ralf Stephan.
NOTE: the backups are in /orig on each machine.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:48 AM, William Stein wrote:
> I've sent invites to the Google compute engine project to the following
> people.
>
> - Andrew O
> - Dima P
> - Volker B
> - Erik B
> - Samuel L
>
> On Mon, Jun 6
I've sent invites to the Google compute engine project to the following people.
- Andrew O
- Dima P
- Volker B
- Erik B
- Samuel L
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 6:22 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> On 2016-06-06 10:33, Erik Bray wrote:
>>
>> I think one of the best things about Sage's development
Would it be technically possible to host all these services in different
physical locations (syncronized, of course), and use some kind of load
balancer to handle the falldown of one of them?
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On 2016-06-06 10:33, Erik Bray wrote:
I think one of the best things about Sage's development is that it's
using Trac. GitHub's issue tracker is awful by comparison, especially
for the volume of issues Sage generates.
I agree.
3. Configure trac.sagemath.org and wiki.sagemath.org so they work
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 5:09 AM, William Stein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yesterday a machine at UW (the one hosting *.sagenb.org) was attacking
> other computers, so the UW shut it down.
> Today trac, the wiki, and many other machines crashed.
>
> I'm traveling, so can't look into the hardware anytime soon.
Hi,
Yesterday a machine at UW (the one hosting *.sagenb.org) was attacking
other computers, so the UW shut it down.
Today trac, the wiki, and many other machines crashed.
I'm traveling, so can't look into the hardware anytime soon. Morever,
the situation is that there is nobody else who will eit
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