On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 3:24:43 PM UTC+1, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 02:35:22PM -0400, William Stein wrote: > [...] > > I am flat out strongly against hosting the Sage wiki, trac, etc.,. > > They should be properly hosted in the cloud, where anybody can be > > added as admins, > > FUD > > > we can make global backups, > > FUD > > > move the machines to have a presence anywhere in the world (due to many > > data centers all over), > > FUD > > > etc. > > FUD > > > I feel like I've been way too hesitant regarding expressing my > > opinions about the Sage infrastructure for the last year. > > > > -- William > > > Following the "don't feed the troll" principle, i did not answer all your > (and Dima's) previous attacks against myself and the people who currently > work on the Sage infrastructure, but this is going too far. Some examples > include: > > - spreading wrong and racist statements about french universities and how > they manage access to VMs [1] >
As [1] refers to a post by me, I think I must clarify that [1] is based on my personal experience mostly in Uni. Rennes II about 7-10 years ago. Perhaps I should say that I spent a number of months there on a number of occasions; as well as spending several more months visiting Uni. Brest, IHP, and ENS. None of them offered (or agreed) to keep my computer account open for more than a couple of months after my departure. And in most places local system admin was almost non-existent. Well, not that I know many places where it's considerably better, and I did visit few dozens of universities and research institutes for more or less extended periods, that involved dealing with IT. And this is why I think that confining things to hosting at a particular university is not a good idea. And for "rasist", I don't even have a clue what you meant. Really. I think it's just a plain insult in my address. Dima - suggesting that nobody was working on the migration while you know that > we are working to set things up correctly (e.g. remote backup system), > and considering that workers are at your disposal, this is extremly > patronizing [2] > - maintaining the confusion between university hosting and the very bad > practices that led us to this situation [3] [4] > > If you and Dima deign to apologize and consider the people who work for > Sage with some respect, perhaps might we start a constructive discussion > on the benefits of having a collectively-managed decentralized > University-hosted infrastructure for the Sage services. > > Ciao, > Thierry > > [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel/84915 > [2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel/86960 > [3] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel/86954 > [4] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel/84894 > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
