On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:27:41 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote:
>
> Having now read the comment [1] I agree that while it may not be true 
> about French universities in general, it was certainly phrased as "my 
> experience" and was limited to the relatively narrow technical comment of 
> who administrators might feel comfortable allowing access to.  I have 
> already been told multiple times here (not in France) that I wouldn't be 
> allowed to host things (even a patchbot) so while one might disagree on the 
> wisdom of such policies, it isn't limited to any particular nationality, 
> and hopefully we can move any further comments about [1] to sage-flame.
>
> However, these comments do touch on something substantive:
>
> - suggesting that nobody was working on the migration while you know that 
>>   we are working to set things up correctly (e.g. remote backup system), 
>>   and considering that workers are at your disposal, this is extremly 
>>   patronizing [2] 
>> - maintaining the confusion between university hosting and the very bad 
>>   practices that led us to this situation [3] [4] 
>>
>
> Namely that GCE might also have some drawbacks (notably, not being 
> provided free of charge? perhaps others) and that there were people hoping 
> to make a university system work.  If there is a technical disagreement (or 
> more than technical) on cloud versus uni, I'm not getting into that, but I 
> don't see why we couldn't host in one place and backup in the other 
> (indeed, multiple).  What does R do?  
>

R has so much commercial (and university - cf. CRAN) backing, it's 
meaningless to compare it to Sage. 

 

>  
>

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