Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Sage Project (Nathann Cohen)

2016-02-26 Thread Martin Vahi
reede, 26. veebruar 2016 15:54.54 UTC kirjutas William: > > ... > ODK impact > will be very positive for open source math software, but won't solve > the hugely important "boring work" problem you mention above. > ... > I see a general pattern here and the pattern is the one that I have se

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage Project (Nathann Cohen)

2016-02-26 Thread Martin Vahi
reede, 26. veebruar 2016 7:51.20 UTC kirjutas Nathann Cohen: > > Hello William, > ... > With the full understanding that I'm pouring some gasoline into the flames right now, I still say that everybody, including me and Nathann, have the "right" to be mistaken. The way I try to approach my stupi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Blog post: "If you were new faculty, would you start something like SageMathCloud sooner?"

2016-02-26 Thread Martin Vahi
neljapäev, 25. veebruar 2016 23:16.50 UTC kirjutas William: > > > It is very true that -- for whatever reason -- certain companies are > at least somewhat systematically supporting open source. Recently > Google and Microsoft (!) are two such companies.. > ... > I do not want to spam this th

[sage-devel] Re: Blog post: "If you were new faculty, would you start something like SageMathCloud sooner?"

2016-02-25 Thread Martin Vahi
I guess that my main contribution to this thread is the saying that I've noticed somewhat similar issues already in year 2014. Here's my blog post from 2014: http://martin.softf1.com/g/yellow_soap_opera_blog/about-software-development-in-companies-communities-and-the-academia I'm no genius, I

[sage-devel] Re: can't build... ImportError: libsatlas.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

2016-02-25 Thread Martin Vahi
Archival copy of the aforementioned sketch and its inclusion to this comment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-d

[sage-devel] Re: can't build... ImportError: libsatlas.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

2016-02-25 Thread Martin Vahi
What regards to the working with multiple computers productively, then I haven't fully figured it out, how to do it properly. Generally speaking, given the bandwidth bottlenecks between CPU, RAM, CPU and HDD the only scalable way forward seems to be a cluster application and software, includ

[sage-devel] Re: can't build... ImportError: libsatlas.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

2016-02-24 Thread Martin Vahi
kolmapäev, 24. veebruar 2016 22:59.08 UTC+2 kirjutas Jon Redinger: > > jon@jon-MP061:~/Downloads/sage/SageMath$ uname -a > ... > Snip: > File > "/home/jon/Downloads/sage/SageMath/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/__init__.py", > > line 14, in > ... > The ATLAS library sure seems

[sage-devel] Re: A Question About Sage Automated Build Service ("Continuous Integration")

2016-02-23 Thread Martin Vahi
Thank You for the answers. I guess that keeps me busy for a while. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[sage-devel] Re: Reproducability of results

2016-02-23 Thread Martin Vahi
Given that the virtual appliance file formats seem to be somewhat standardized so that different virtual machine running software can export-import virtual appliances, the most hassle free solution for writing scientific papers that use Sage might be the http://files.sagemath.org/win/index.ht

[sage-devel] Re: Ultimatum: sage's trac and wiki

2016-02-22 Thread Martin Vahi
reede, 12. veebruar 2016 9:53.23 UTC kirjutas Dima Pasechnik: > > Hi William, > I have already volunteered; Thierry set me up accounts on trac and wiki > hosts, but I (still) lack sudo rights. > Perhaps for moving the thing it's not needed, I didn't check. > (Thierry replies to my emails very s

[sage-devel] Re: promotional video

2016-02-22 Thread Martin Vahi
To be more productive at my critique I add that I think that the following phrase covers the whole Mathematica part without picking on any specific competitor: "Sage is an open source alternative to many generally known highly professional mathematics software packages. One of the aims of the

[sage-devel] Re: Failure to Compile Sage 7.0 Stable on openSUSE Linux

2016-02-22 Thread Martin Vahi
Thanks. I'll re-run it then, when I have the time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group

[sage-devel] Re: promotional video

2016-02-22 Thread Martin Vahi
esmaspäev, 22. veebruar 2016 16:58.52 UTC kirjutas William: > > We made a SageMath promotional video this weekend > > https://youtu.be/AEKOjac9obk > > Well, we all have our properties, cultural background included, that at some situation are our strengths and at some other situation are o

[sage-devel] Re: Bye

2016-02-22 Thread Martin Vahi
All the drama and the king's men... .. can not help me, because wherever I travel, my personal properties and dreams and beliefs come with me. Actually, I feel sorry for Your mental pains, but as little as I have seen from this forum within the last few weeks, I do not see anyone doing any h

[sage-devel] Re: Failure to Compile Sage 7.0 Stable on openSUSE Linux

2016-02-22 Thread Martin Vahi
I add that the VirtualBox virtual appliance had about 900MiB of RAM allocated to it and it had about 90% of a single 3GHz CPU time allocated to it, with the CPU supported accelerations. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscr

[sage-devel] Re: A Question About Sage Automated Build Service ("Continuous Integration")

2016-02-22 Thread Martin Vahi
AM and bandwidth between the RAM and CPU. I interpret Your answer as "It is worth for me, Martin Vahi, to try something"(No promises of any kind by me right now.). On the other hand, given all the trouble that it takes to get the Sage built https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Publish and maintain online a list of data produced by Sage

2016-02-21 Thread Martin Vahi
I'd like to add that at one experiment I was able to wrap the Fossil to PHP by having the PHP to shell-execute the fossil binary by giving the fossil file as an argument or something along those lines, I do not precisely remember, but the fact is that although I did not test, whether the PHP-wr

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Publish and maintain online a list of data produced by Sage

2016-02-21 Thread Martin Vahi
laupäev, 20. veebruar 2016 13:54.47 UTC kirjutas Nathann Cohen: > ... > I don't know what you mean by the 'general idea' of this website. Too > me it looks far too complicated for what I want to do: I just want to > publish a bunch of numbers, possibly with a matrix attached to each > entry.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: For whoever cares about undergrads (or wants to help William earn more money)

2016-02-21 Thread Martin Vahi
I propose that You get yourself acquainted with portals like https://www.upwork.com/ Secondly, my suggestion is to think, how are You going to "package" Yourself as a remotely working professional. That does not mean that You should leave any fake impressions or hide, what You are, but it doe

[sage-devel] Re: A Question About Sage Automated Build Service ("Continuous Integration")

2016-02-21 Thread Martin Vahi
I suspect that the different CI service providers have different operating system setups, which means that it makes sense to build the same Sage revision at multiple CI service providers. That way the likelihood of detecting libraries that are absent from both, Sage source tree and the operati

[sage-devel] A Question About Sage Automated Build Service ("Continuous Integration")

2016-02-21 Thread Martin Vahi
In relation to one other thread https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-devel/ILKmNjHrLVQ I ask, if there exist some set-up that test-builds Sage? An ideal case would be a set of freshly cloned instances of VirtualBox virtual appliances, each running a different operating system or Linux

[sage-devel] Re: Failure to Compile Sage 7.0 Stable on openSUSE Linux

2016-02-21 Thread Martin Vahi
I tried to take the easy route, because I'm running out of time with my project, but that also failed. The code and the bash script that I used for building it resides (for review) at (~600MiB, plain TAR file) http://temporary.softf1.com/2016/2016_02_21_Sage_7_0_build_failure_demo.tar This tim

Re: [sage-devel] Re: For whoever cares about undergrads (or wants to help William earn more money)

2016-02-21 Thread Martin Vahi
esmaspäev, 15. veebruar 2016 13:55.42 UTC kirjutas Nathann Cohen: > ... > Well. At first he was spending his money in the hope of earning money, > and now he earns money. > > That's good for him. The fact that he now sells our collective work > but keeps the benefits, however, is another stor

Re: [sage-devel] Re: For whoever cares about undergrads (or wants to help William earn more money)

2016-02-21 Thread Martin Vahi
esmaspäev, 15. veebruar 2016 14:32.00 UTC kirjutas Nathann Cohen: ... I care about average users, as I showed it repeatedly in the past. I just don't want to work for free for a guy who sells a software, that's all. ... I do not know exactly Your case, nor do I know the arr

Re: [sage-devel] Re: For whoever cares about undergrads (or wants to help William earn more money)

2016-02-21 Thread Martin Vahi
esmaspäev, 15. veebruar 2016 14:32.00 UTC kirjutas Nathann Cohen: > > ... > I care about average users, as I showed it repeatedly in the past. I > just don't want to work for free for a guy who sells a software, > that's all. > ... > I do not know exactly Your case, nor do I know the arrangem

[sage-devel] Re: Failure to Compile Sage 7.0 Stable on openSUSE Linux

2016-02-05 Thread Martin Vahi
neljapäev, 4. veebruar 2016 20:30.12 UTC kirjutas Dima Pasechnik: ... > In a working build one will see > "checking whether we can use the existing Boehm-Weiser library ... yes" > rather than 'no' > ... > Thank You for the answer. My interpretation of it is that the flaw within the Sage is t

[sage-devel] Re: Which IDE do you use to write code for sage?

2016-02-03 Thread Martin Vahi
If someone is thinking of DEVELOPING an IDE, then one thing to look at is the open source https://www.jetbrains.com/mps/ I haven't used it for anything yet, but my brief understanding of its documentation is that it's a bit like "Microsoft Word", except that in stead of text color the meaning

[sage-devel] Failure to Compile Sage 7.0 Stable on openSUSE Linux

2016-02-03 Thread Martin Vahi
The source was downloaded on 2016_02_04 from http://www.sagemath.org/download-source.html and the sha256 sum of the downloaded sage-7.0.tar.gz is 8eb8d48b78a29163ba4d89ab3f781a5476da4d2e119ba3662e84445fe3752bae An excerpt of the console output resides at the attached text files. -- Y