Re: [sage-devel] Re: pynac-0.3.3

2015-04-08 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 8 Apr 2015 05:55:27 -0700 (PDT) kcrisman wrote: > > since there seems no permanent maintainer of Pynac I propose > > to do the next release of Pynac. I have already transferred the > > source/history as planned to github at: > > https://github.com/rwst/pynac > > > > > Ralf, this sounds li

[sage-devel] Re: coercion of objects embedded in symbolic expressions

2015-02-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 03:17:13 -0800 (PST) Volker Braun wrote: > Just to tell you what you already know, the symbolic ring is the > parent of last resort if there is nothing more specific. So its to be > expected that you don't have any canonical maps elsewhere. > > Pynac should probably unwind th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Tracking Citations; How?

2014-09-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 11:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Bill Hart wrote: > On Saturday, 6 September 2014 20:34:56 UTC+2, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > > > Note that Cython supports cProfile these days: > > http://docs.cython.org/src/tutorial/profiling_tutorial.html > > However, that won't help too much as the real

[sage-devel] Re: cgal spkg?

2014-08-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Marc, I'm copying sage-devel where more experienced people can help. On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:42:45 +0200 Marc Masdeu wrote: > Dear Burcin, > > I saw you had made a spkg for the CGAL libraries. I would like to > resuscitate this code and adapt it to CGAL 4.0 if possible. Do you > have the spk

Re: [sage-devel] installing optional packages requires running "sage -b"

2014-08-04 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 06:57:20 -0700 William A Stein wrote: > This is absolutely not how Sage should behave. The fixes I can > think of: > > (1) Run "sage -b" as part of installing any package that requires it > for the install to finish. Your argument not to run "sage -b" isn't > convincing,

Re: [sage-devel] Lattices?

2014-03-13 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Martin, On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:56:41 + Martin Albrecht wrote: > what happened to the Sage 2012 GSoC project on lattices described > here: > >http://gsoc-sage-lattices.blogspot.co.uk/ > > It doesn't seem to have been merged (?) I could use it to give my > discrete Gaussian sampler ov

Re: [sage-devel] Re: canonical review/upgrade procedure

2014-03-12 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 04:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Volker Braun wrote: > On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:52:06 AM UTC+1, Ralf Stephan wrote: > > > > Hello, I'm the annoying person digging up old tickets. > > > > Which is much appreciated! +1. Many thanks for finally getting all those symbolics tickets me

[sage-devel] Google Summer of Code Projects - please advertise

2014-03-05 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, this year Sage [1] and lmonade [2] are mentoring organizations for the Google Summer of Code [3] again. [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/sagemath [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/lmonade [3] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/go

[sage-devel] GSoC projects

2014-01-30 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, the application period for the Google Summer of Code starts next week. If we want to apply, we should have a project ideas list ready for review by Google by February 14th. Here is last year's list: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ipzvwbhfujaubDe0QVO-V9JmmRcLZvitaeXh4r2WNqA/pub Harald ag

Re: [sage-devel] QQ multivariate factorization, new(?) errors

2013-10-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Jori, On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:29:45 +0300 (EEST) Jori Mantysalo wrote: > I just make a small test: > > P.=QQ[] > for i in range(1,10): > p1=ZZ.random_element(1,5)*P.random_element() > p2=ZZ.random_element(1,5)*P.random_element() > p3=ZZ.random_element(1,5)*P.random_element()

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The results of some integration test.

2013-09-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 00:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Fredrik Johansson wrote: > Curious that no one seems to have attempted to port Rubi to Sage yet! > Perhaps a possible project for next year's GSoC? This might be an interesting exercise to test our symbolics and pattern matching capabilities. Looking f

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Answers to queries about flooved.com, and some questions as well...

2013-09-04 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 11:31:43 -0500 Jason Grout wrote: > On 9/3/13 11:26 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > > And a collaborative annotation system for books is certainly > > something interesting to see. > > *Especially* if there is an easy way to export the annotations out of > the system. I'm not very

[sage-devel] default component owners on trac

2013-08-08 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, is there a way to see the default owners assigned to trac components? I just noticed that I am not assigned to new symbolics tickets any more. I can't decide yet if that's good or bad yet. Was there a reason behind this change? Cheers, Burcin -- You received this message because you are s

Re: [sage-devel] spkg statistics

2013-07-05 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:23:51 +0200 Hikari Boulders wrote: > about 4ti2: is there some master-plan to make sage more modular or > smaller? Unfortunately, no. lmonade takes a step in this direction by making the package system more flexible: http://www.lmona.de In the near future, I will make s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: _cleanup method in DifferentialForms class

2013-07-04 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 4 Jul 2013 04:49:16 -0700 (PDT) vdelecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > If the differential forms are somewhat immutable we may also save the > result of is_zero once for all. Why do not make is_zero a > cached_method of symbolic expressions ? Do you mean wrapping sage.symbolic.e

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sqrt simplification

2013-06-30 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 13:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > Meanwhile, I've written the following workaround in python: > basically, it scans all the sqrt's in a given symbolic expression, > send them to radcan, takes the absolute value of the output and then > calls simplify(). It is not

Re: [sage-devel] Jenks Prize

2013-06-29 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 09:48:55 -0700 William Stein wrote: > According to Victor Miller [1], Sage one the Jenks Prize [2] last > night. Congrats to us Sage developers! > > [1] https://plus.google.com/112503503275509870006/posts > [2] http://www.sigsam.org/awards/jenks/awardees/ Congratulations!

Re: [sage-devel] Re: _cleanup method in DifferentialForms class

2013-06-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Timo Kluck wrote: > I think most time is spend in the is_zero() method for a symbolic > expression, and that the reassignments you refer to are largely > irrelevant. The thing is that it can cost a lot of time to decide > whether, for example > > sin(x)c

Re: [sage-devel] OT: SWMATH

2013-06-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Michael, On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 03:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Michael Brickenstein wrote: > Yes, and it even includes Sage ;-). Well, at the moment it's > at position 8 in total number of citations which is not bad, > considering it's age. How do you see this on the current swmath.org site? I couldn't

Re: [sage-devel] OT: SWMATH

2013-06-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
math.org/contribute Cheers, Burcin > On 17 June 2013 19:59, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > Hi, > > > > here is an official announcement for the swMATH project. > > > > Cheers, > > Burcin > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > Date:

Re: [sage-devel] OT: SWMATH

2013-06-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, here is an official announcement for the swMATH project. Cheers, Burcin Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:00:29 +0200 From: Gert-Martin Greuel Subject: swMATH Dear all, I would like you to inform you about a new service on mathematical software, www.swmath.org The databa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: 3 GSoC projects for Sage

2013-05-30 Thread Burcin Erocal
t; Eviatar Bach <http://www.phas.ubc.ca/%7Eeviatarb/> – University of > > British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada > > (Mentor: Flavia Stan, Backup: Burcin Erocal) > > > > Sage interfaces with multiple third-party libraries, such as MPFR, > > GSL, GP/PARI, mpmath, and

Re: [sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:31:41 + (UTC) Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On 2013-01-17, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:17:43 + (UTC) > > Dima Pasechnik wrote: > [...] > >> This still looks like an ugly hack. Shouldn't we rather use > >>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:17:43 + (UTC) Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On 2013-01-17, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Dima Pasechnik > > wrote: > >> On 2013-01-16, Volker Braun wrote: > >>> --=_Part_588_6290856.1358340327889 > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO

Re: [sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:43:15 +0100 Julien Puydt wrote: > Le 15/01/2013 23:28, Volker Braun a écrit : > > The specialist mathematical libraries, by contrast, don't get much > > exposure. And even if somebody packaged them then generally in > > useless form. E.g. Fedora ships symmetrica, but its us

Re: [sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:49:22 -0800 (PST) Timo Kluck wrote: > Op woensdag 16 januari 2013 04:17:48 UTC+1 schreef Michael Orlitzky > het volgende: > > > > > > Gentoo: emerge sage > > Fedora: yum install sage > > Debian: apt-get install sage > > Ubuntu: apt-get install sage > > Mac: port

Re: [sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-15 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:44:13 -0800 "R. Andrew Ohana" wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Burcin Erocal > wrote: > > Keshav, Jordi and many others have pointed these out before, but > > our main problem seems to be: > > > > - we are not really

[sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-15 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:32:29 -0800 (PST) Timo Kluck wrote: > Op dinsdag 15 januari 2013 17:01:09 UTC+1 schreef Burcin Erocal het > volgende: > > Why don't we discuss the solutions to these problems > > separately and put them into action? > > > > - Develo

[sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-15 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:27:38 -0500 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > Actually, I don't see what ditching hg has anything to do with the > real meat of the actual problem, fixing the build system. +1000 I don't recall the design of the new "development model", "directory structure" or "build syst

Re: [sage-devel] Re: About log and ln. Free fight.

2013-01-10 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:15:45 +0800 P Purkayastha wrote: > On 01/10/2013 10:09 PM, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > H Yep, log2 and log10 sound good indeed ! > > > > So what do we do, in the end ? > > > > ln(e) = 1 > > log(10) = 1 > > log2(2) = 1 > > > > Or do we stick log(e) = ln(e) = 1 ? >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Why does - (x > 100) return -x > -100 ?

2013-01-09 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:16:05 +0100 Burcin Erocal wrote: > This was indeed intentional at the time. When writing the "new > symbolics" code based on pynac, William and I thought that this > behavior was the one that led to least confusion. > > Working with expr

Re: [sage-devel] ask.sagemath spam

2013-01-03 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Karl-Dieter, On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 05:11:44 -0800 (PST) kcrisman wrote: > The last few weeks there has been a marked increase in spam of the > following nature on ask.sagemath > > Title: Irrelevant Question > Content: How do I do something unrelated to Sage > Answer (by different author): Your

Re: [sage-devel] Correct procedure for an experimental package

2012-12-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:10:55 +0100 Charles Bouillaguet wrote: > > I am not suggesting to patch the Sage library when installing your > > package. You can put the interface in a separate Cython module > > which is built by the usual Python/Cython setup.py magic and > > installed in the system pyth

Re: [sage-devel] Correct procedure for an experimental package

2012-12-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Martin, On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:15:51 +0100 Martin Albrecht wrote: > > Wouldn't it be easier to include the Cython interface in the > > package? AFAIK, Cython's build system improved significantly and > > there is no reason to use Sage's build system for a Cython module. > > my understanding

Re: [sage-devel] Correct procedure for an experimental package

2012-12-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:15:38 +0100 Charles Bouillaguet wrote: > On 12/20/2012 01:02 PM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > >> What should I do ? Unconditionally include the cython interface to > >> the sage library, and mark all doctests as optional ? > > > > Can you compile

Re: [sage-devel] Correct procedure for an experimental package

2012-12-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Charles, On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:37:33 +0100 Charles Bouillaguet wrote: > I (amongst with others) have written a library that solves boolean > equations in some way. I wanted to include it as an experimental > spkg. I thus wrote a cython interface to Sage. To be usable from > inside Sage, bot

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Why does - (x > 100) return -x > -100 ?

2012-12-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:15:57 -0800 Benjamin Jones wrote: > > It's hard to tell from the implementation if this behavior is > > intentional, unintentional, or a bug. The implementation is just > > that multiplication maps over relational operators like ==, <, <=, > > etc. But I think it's not poss

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What to do with research-y code.

2012-11-26 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:53:31 +0800 P Purkayastha wrote: > I think the Sage community could quickly expand and there could be > tens, if not hundreds, of git development branches once the switch to > git occurs. It would be quite hard to keep track of all the different > branches and the individ

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Indexing of symbolic expressions

2012-11-11 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:16:55 -0800 (PST) Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > IIRC there was some work about this done (but not merged?). > No time to search myself now, but searching trac and the pynac-devel > list should give some hints, or contacting Burcin and or Florent > Hivert. Thanks for poin

Re: [sage-devel] Bug in functions sin, cos, exp...

2012-10-31 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:05:24 -0700 (PDT) kcrisman wrote: > On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:01:07 AM UTC-4, Volker Braun wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:08:15 PM UTC, Fredrik Johansson > > wrote: > > > >> Returning a Sage Integer would be consistent with this: > > > > > > I also t

[sage-devel] patchbot down?

2012-09-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, the patchbot site shows a traceback suggesting the mongodb server is down. http://patchbot.sagemath.org/ Am I looking at the right page? Can somebody bring the database up? Thanks. Burcin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group.

Re: [sage-devel] Symbolic calculation

2012-09-09 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Noud, On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 04:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Noud wrote: > Let's first take a look at this example > > sage: f = 2*cos(1/2) > sage: f > 2*cos(1/2) > sage: f.n() > 1.75516512378075 > > I would like to program something like cos(x) that behaves the same > as what I showed above. So I want to

Re: [sage-devel] Virtual machines -- I'm curious...

2012-08-29 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:05:56 + Jan Groenewald wrote: > Hi, > > On 29 August 2012 06:38, David Kirkby wrote: > > > On 28 August 2012 20:55, William Stein wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > See the exchange below. I'm curious if there is anybody reading > > > this who would want to manage a bunc

Re: [sage-devel] feature suggestion: decorator to convert python function to symbolic function

2012-08-13 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Timo, On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 10:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Timo Kluck wrote: > I think that the distinction between > > def f(x): > return x^2 > > and > > f(x) = x^2 > > is a common source of confusion, and everyone will run into it when > trying to define piecewise functions. It would be possible

[sage-devel] Re: Problems building farey_symbol.pyx on Cygwin

2012-07-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Jean-Pierre, On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > I'll do when I'm finished, for the moment, I'll just keep track of > the progress on the wiki page. > Hopefully there is only one problematic file left: expression.pyx. > I've looked into this all night long but

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Algebraic numbers in symbolic ring

2012-05-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 14 May 2012 04:27:15 -0700 (PDT) mmarco wrote: > I don't think the problem here is coercion, but conversion (and, > mostly, the ability of the symbolic framework to handle these > numbers). The symbolics framework can handle these numbers. You can use arbitrary python objects as coeffici

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Algebraic numbers in symbolic ring

2012-05-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 13 May 2012 14:13:46 -0700 (PDT) mmarco wrote: > My problem was that i needed to do implicit derivation. Something > like: > > sage: f=3*x^2*y^3-5*x*y+x^2-3*y^2+4*x-3*y+1 > sage: f.diff(x) > 9*x^2*y(x)^2*D[0](y)(x) + 6*x*y(x)^3 - 5*x*D[0](y)(x) - 6*y(x)*D[0](y) > (x) + 2*x - 5*y(x) - 3*D

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC

2012-03-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:52:10 -0500 Jason Grout wrote: > On 3/27/12 7:47 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > This happened to me as well. I could still change the options even > > though I don't use a gmail address. I fixed your membership options > > nevertheless. > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC

2012-03-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:40 -0500 Jason Grout wrote: > On 3/27/12 4:13 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Ivan > > Andrus wrote: > >> FWIW, when I subscribed to this list I apparently signed up for > >> the "no email" option (though I would never have done such a thi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage, gentoo-prefix & lmonade was: log messages

2012-02-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:56:13 +0800 Keshav Kini wrote: > Burcin Erocal writes: > >> Just to be clear, sage-on-gentoo itself has no goal of being a way > >> to distribute Sage in general. It is simply a port of Sage and its > >> SPKGs to the Gentoo package managem

[sage-devel] sage, gentoo-prefix & lmonade was: log messages

2012-02-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Keshav, thanks for pointing out this thread. "log messages" is an interesting title to discuss the future directions for Sage. :) I added gentoo-science to the CC list, since that is the most likely location for sage-on-gentoo discussion and the gentoo-developers might be interested in the cont

Re: [sage-devel] Re: I^(0.5)

2012-02-15 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:22:32 -0800 (PST) Keshav Kini wrote: > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12511 is now awaiting > review. Thanks, Robert! Robert's patch now has positive review and is waiting to be merged. Thanks to Robert for the quick fix, Keshav and aapitzsch for their help. Th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

2012-02-13 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:34:40 + "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > On 02/13/12 05:19 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: > > If I understand correctly, William's point is that simply placing a > > copy of the GPL, with a version number attached or otherwise, with a > > "or any later version" included or otherwise

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

2012-02-13 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:58:49 -0800 William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Dr. David Kirkby > wrote: > > On 02/13/12 11:18 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > >> > >> On 2/13/12 4:17 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > >>> > >>> Since some of packages will not have the "or later version" added >

Re: [sage-devel] use "./configure; make" for Sage?

2012-02-06 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 13:23:19 -0800 (PST) John H Palmieri wrote: > Various aspects of building Sage might be cleaner if we used autoconf: > > ./configure OPTIONS > make > > OPTIONS could include a location to install Sage, various flags for > building ATLAS, and other options which we curre

Re: [sage-devel] Create numpy-functions from sage symbolic functions

2012-01-30 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Maximillian, On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:27:45 +0100 Maximilian Trescher wrote: > I'm very new to the developers list. > About my background: I'm studying physics (in Berlin) and I'm using > sage regularly for some physical calculations. > > Three days ago I wondered if there is any possibility t

Re: [sage-devel] Two articles of interest to Sage in latest Notices

2012-01-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:26:33 -0800 (PST) kcrisman wrote: > Publishing Computational Mathematics, by Tim Daly (of Axiom, a > frequent contributor on sage-devel) > http://www.ams.org/notices/201202/rtx120200320p.pdf Literate programming is not just adding comments to code, but here are a few numb

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about scoping

2012-01-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:02:11 -0800 (PST) Nils Bruin wrote: > On Jan 17, 2:54 am, Keshav Kini wrote: > [...] > > How does it make anything easier > > or clearer or better for the interactive user that var() injects > > things into global scope? We found ourselves trying in vain to > > explain thi

Re: [sage-devel] the ARM port - numerical noise

2012-01-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 04:21:37 -0800 (PST) Dima Pasechnik wrote: > Once again, let me bring up the numerical noise issue on ARM. > The problem is that while we pretty much narrowed it down to a > particular function computing the log of the gamma-function, > lgammal, in elibc, an implementation of

Re: [sage-devel] Why use cp for patching

2011-12-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Maarten, On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:28:47 -0800 (PST) Maarten Derickx wrote: > I was merging my new ipython spkg wich needed review for some time > already at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/11235 but now > needs work because in the time that it needed review some people > made http://

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Indexed expressions again...

2011-12-02 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Jean-Pierre, thanks a lot for looking into this. On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:13:49 -0800 (PST) Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > By the way: > - I used Burcin's patch, somehow I could not use Florent's one > - The patch is based on pynac-0.2.2, but applies on 0.2.3 > Here is the output of the patch vers

Re: [sage-devel] SAGBI bases?

2011-11-25 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Simon, On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 06:58:15 -0800 (PST) Simon King wrote: > After some "serach_src", it seems to me that there are no SAGBI bases > in Sage. > > Are there plans to add them? Is there free software (with appropriate > licence) that one could build upon? If I remember correctly, Nicolas

Re: [sage-devel] Indexed expressions again...

2011-11-24 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Florent, On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:20:26 +0100 Florent Hivert wrote: > I'm working on #11576 "make it possible to generate sequences of > variables easily". I actually need to achieve a larger goal: I need > to have symbolic variables indexed by any Sage objects (eg: integers, > group element, m

[sage-devel] Re: Symbolic nth_root()

2011-11-23 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:41:56 -0800 (PST) kcrisman wrote: > > > > I don't think it exists,  The symbolic functionality in Sage is > > > supposed to make it "easy" for users to define a new symbolic > > > function at runtime, including how that function gets simplified. > > >  This is supposed to

Re: [sage-devel] Maxima vs Ginac numerator semantic

2011-11-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:56:51 +0100 Florent Hivert wrote: > > > > method. Thanks to Cython, this is very easy. However, Maxima and > > > Ginac have a different semantic for those two functions: > > > > > > - Maxima: Does not change the expression; if the expression is > > > not a quotient, then

Re: [sage-devel] Symbolic nth_root()

2011-11-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:16:18 -0800 William Stein wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:52 AM, Jeroen Demeyer > wrote: > > When searching sage-support, there are several threads about people > > complaining they cannot plot x^(1/3) or similar on the negative axis > > because (-1)^(1/3) is a complex

Re: [sage-devel] Maxima vs Ginac numerator semantic

2011-11-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Florent, On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:04:13 +0100 Florent Hivert wrote: > Follow up from thread "indexed symbolic variables". > > > > > Do we have to call Maxima to compute the numerator of a rational > > > > fraction ? Is seems to me that Pynac/Ginac should be able to do > > > > it by themselves.

Re: [sage-devel] indexed symbolic variables

2011-11-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Florent, On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:44:35 +0100 Florent Hivert wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 03:48:10PM +0100, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:10:54 +0100 > > Florent Hivert wrote: > > > > > > Pynac supports indexed expressions already. It j

Re: [sage-devel] indexed symbolic variables

2011-11-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:10:54 +0100 Florent Hivert wrote: > > Pynac supports indexed expressions already. It just isn't wrapped in > > Sage yet. Again, there is an experimental patch available: > > > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/burcin/indexed_expression-20110727.patch > > > > Since yo

Re: [sage-devel] indexed symbolic variables

2011-11-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Florent, On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:29:38 +0100 Florent Hivert wrote: > So I'm trying to inherits from Expression. Here is my code: > > from sage.symbolic.expression import Expression > class IndexedVarExpr(Expression): > def index(self): > return self._index > > class IndexedVar(S

Re: [sage-devel] deprecate symbolic function call notation

2011-11-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:00:57 -0800 William Stein wrote: > Twice in the last day I've hit this deprecation warning due to making > a stupid typo: > > sage: d(N) = (1/2)*(N^2-1)(N^2-N)/(N-1) # contains stupid typo > /Users/wstein/sage/install/current/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/IPython/

Re: [sage-devel] Re: or sage-5.0? (Re: [sage-release] Next release: sage-4.7.3 or sage-4.8?)

2011-11-05 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:23:38 -0700 (PDT) leif wrote: > On 5 Nov., 21:24, "Justin C. Walker" wrote: > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 12:16 , Julien Puydt wrote: > > > > > Le 05/11/2011 17:42, William Stein a écrit : > > >> What do you base this "probably" on?  Having started and watched > > >> Sage "evolve"

Re: [sage-devel] Re: libSingular much slower than Singular via pexpect??

2011-10-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Simon, On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 03:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Simon King wrote: > On 27 Okt., 11:39, Martin Albrecht > wrote: > > On Thursday 27 October 2011, Simon King wrote: > > > Is that something to worry about? > > > > Yes! > > Good. I created trac ticket #11957. > > > Hence my guess: > > we are u

Re: [sage-devel] Re: asking if Sage has support for computations with differential operators

2011-10-24 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Pablo, On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:32:12 -0300 Pablo De Napoli wrote: > Many thanks! > I see that with this patches, it would be esasy to have also a Weyl > algebra implementation in Sage Yes, writing constructors for Weyl algebras will be an easy step when it is merged. We've been waiting a lon

Re: [sage-devel] Re: asking if Sage has support for computations with differential operators

2011-10-24 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Pablo, On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 18:49:39 -0300 Pablo De Napoli wrote: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Pablo De Napoli > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I need to perform computations with linear differential operators > > whose coefficients are polynomials > > in several variables (in Euclean space). >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bug in symbolic expression simplification?

2011-10-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Simon King wrote: > On 18 Okt., 19:08, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > ATM, simplify() just converts the expression to maxima and get's it > > back. If you change the coefficient ring for the polynomial ring to > > one that we can

Re: [sage-devel] Choosing names for exponential integral type special functions

2011-10-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Benjamin Jones wrote: > In Trac ticket #11143, there is some discussion [1] about the naming > of exponential integral type special functions which are added to the > global namespace there. Here are the names of the functions which are > wrapped in #11143

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bug in symbolic expression simplification?

2011-10-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Simon King wrote: > Bump. > > On 13 Okt., 08:43, Simon King wrote: > > ... > >   sage: q1 = SR(p1) > >   sage: q2 = SR(p2) > >   sage: q3 = SR(p3) > >   sage: q4 = SR(p4) > >   sage: q5 = SR(p5) > >   sage: q = ((q1/q2+q3)^2+(q3/(q4+q5)))/((q3/(q4+q5/(q1

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GiNaC and Python disagree on arithmetic

2011-09-12 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Keshav, On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Keshav Kini wrote: > I believe that error message is propagated from GiNaC. See line 523 > of src/ginac/power.cpp in the pynac spkg. The error message is > hard-coded and doesn't refer to python's eval() function. This should be fixed in pynac

[sage-devel] polymake wrapper

2011-09-05 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, I just uploaded a prototype python wrapper for the new library interface to polymake on bitbucket: https://bitbucket.org/burcin/pypolymake The docstrings in polymake.pyx contain examples of what is possible right now: https://bitbucket.org/burcin/pypolymake/src/tip/polymake.pyx#cl-105 The

[sage-devel] Sage/Singular days - Kaiserslautern - Sept 26-30

2011-07-29 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, there will be a Sage/Singular workshop in Kaiserslautern, Germany on September 26-30, 2011. http://wiki.sagemath.org/days34 The main focus of the meeting will be to improve libSingular and the Sage - Singular interface. We anticipate a coding oriented event with few talks. Newcomers, espec

Re: [sage-devel] Citing used Sage components automatically

2011-07-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:40:02 -0700 William Stein wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Andrey Novoseltsev > wrote: > > I have just looked over PARI citing discussion and recently I had a > > talk with a developer of a software package X who was concerned that > > inclusion of X into Sage wi

Re: [sage-devel] Citing used Sage components automatically

2011-07-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Andrey, On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: > I have just looked over PARI citing discussion and recently I had a > talk with a developer of a software package X who was concerned that > inclusion of X into Sage will mean that people will stop giving credit > to

Re: [sage-devel] Adding new unit tests

2011-07-26 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:20:35 -0400 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 07/20/11 13:26, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > > > If you are adding tests only for integration, starting a new file > > sage/symbolic/tests.py might be better. > > > > ... > > > > Don'

[sage-devel] Fw: Save Feza Gursey Institute! -- http://savefezagursey.wordpress.com

2011-07-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, Feza Gursey Institute in Turkey, which hosted the only Sage notebook server in Turkey and contributed a Turkish translation of the notebook as well as hosting many workshops to popularize computational algebra, is being closed. There is more information below, with a (hidden) link to the peti

Re: [sage-devel] Importing units into module

2011-07-21 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Eviatar wrote: > I am working on a physical constants module, but for whatever reason I > can't get it to correctly import the units module. > > I import the units class using "from units import units", but I get: > > > > /home/eviatar/sage-4.7-lin

Re: [sage-devel] Adding new unit tests

2011-07-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:44:10 -0400 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > 2. Subject to #1, where is the most appropriate place to add the > tests? My first guess would be in the "TESTS:" section of > sage/calculus/calculus.py, but there appear to be some standalone > tests defined in sage/tests, too. If you

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Matrix multiplication

2011-07-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Simon, On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Simon King wrote: > On 14 Jul., 16:37, Simon King wrote: > > Perhaps it would be best to study > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/burcin/dense_ctypes.patch > > Is there a ticket where that patch is dealt with? AFAIK, there are 3 tickets

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Matrix multiplication

2011-07-12 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Simon King wrote: > On 12 Jul., 21:09, Martin Albrecht > wrote: > > If one is serious about this then one should probably use the > > FFLAS/FFPACK low-level routines directly (Burcin might have some > > old patches for this, he's the last person I know of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Iterator appears to be broken in 4.7

2011-06-19 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:08:27 -0700 Jason Grout wrote: > On 6/18/11 10:59 PM, Ars-Magna wrote: > > Hi all, > > I noticed that in the 4.6.2 one has the following expected behavior > > sage: list(x.iterator()) > > [] > > where as in 4.7 > > sage: list(x.iterator()) > > ValueError . > > > > Is it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Translation

2011-06-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
Merhaba Ege, On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Ege Sertçetin wrote: > I now translated it. Does the person I will show it have to be a > developer of Sage? I'd be happy to review the translation. When you open a ticket [1] add me (user name: burcin) to the CC list please. [1] http://sa

Re: [sage-devel] [ANN] flint 2.2 released

2011-06-10 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:27:47 +0100 Martin Albrecht wrote: > I'm wondering whether we should do a Sage-FLINT days thingy/coding > sprint (either somewhere in the big blue room or online) to make use > of all the cool new features in FLINT 2.x? > > Or should we wait until everything from 1.5

[sage-devel] sage days in KL in September

2011-05-30 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, we are planning to organize Sage/Singular days in Kaiserslautern some time in September. The focus will be on the development of the Sage-Singular interface, and libSingular, but anybody interested is welcome to participate. Financial support will be available, especially for the brave who ca

Re: [sage-devel] sage-4.7 release schedule

2011-05-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 15 May 2011 20:51:54 +1200 Francois Bissey wrote: > On the other hand singular seems to be getting a python interface it > may be an idea to investigate switching to that. This interface allows calling python from the Singular interpreter, which gives access to PolyBoRi for example. Modu

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage & gentoo prefix

2011-05-10 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 11 May 2011 00:10:29 +1200 Francois Bissey wrote: > > On Sun, 08 May 2011 07:06:03 +1200 > > > > Francois Bissey wrote: > > > > On Sat, 07 May 2011 21:15:11 +1200 > > > > > > > > Francois Bissey wrote: > > > > > > Removing the sse2 use flag makes the gf2x build crash. > > > > > > Shou

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage & gentoo prefix

2011-05-10 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 7 May 2011 08:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Volker Braun wrote: > On Saturday, May 7, 2011 3:57:02 PM UTC+1, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > > > > Since there is already the standard CFLAGS variable I didn't > > > implement an extra WRAPPER_CFLAGS. > > > > I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage & gentoo prefix

2011-05-10 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 08 May 2011 07:06:03 +1200 Francois Bissey wrote: > > On Sat, 07 May 2011 21:15:11 +1200 > > > > Francois Bissey wrote: > > > > Removing the sse2 use flag makes the gf2x build crash. Should > > > > NTL depend on gf2x conditionally? > I see the kind of problem in configure. It will be a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage & gentoo prefix

2011-05-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 7 May 2011 06:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Volker Braun wrote: > On Saturday, May 7, 2011 2:29:27 PM UTC+1, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > > > This tarball should also solve Volker's problem where ntl couldn't > > find gf2x. I realized that I completely misunderstood what

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage & gentoo prefix

2011-05-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 7 May 2011 07:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Volker Braun wrote: > You shouldn't need autotools to build anything, only the > autogenerated scripts that are in the source tarball. But it seems > like some patches are re-running autoconf. On my Fedora 14 install it > breaks early on: Unfortunately ge

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage & gentoo prefix

2011-05-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 07 May 2011 21:15:11 +1200 Francois Bissey wrote: > > Removing the sse2 use flag makes the gf2x build crash. Should NTL > > depend on gf2x conditionally? > > > That's not normal. Could you forward me the failing log? As for > conditional dependency it used to be that way but I don't see

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