Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread kcrisman
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 5:18:27 PM UTC-5, Jason Grout wrote: > > I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. Can you give an example? > > See https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb/issues/224 - it would be nice in Jupyter to have a way to allow two different behaviors as desired or relevant, o

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread Jason Grout
I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. Can you give an example? Thanks, Jason On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:16 PM, kcrisman wrote: > I know this is now hijacking the thread... but if we are on those lines, > when it comes to "too much output", making sure that this is something that > can allow

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread Jason Grout
Brian, Sylvain, and Jon talked and came to an agreement. Jason On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2016-01-05 19:27, Jason Grout wrote: > >> FYI, Sylvain Corlay is making some changes to ipywidgets to bring them >> more into line with the Sage syntax. He said in the Jup

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread kcrisman
I know this is now hijacking the thread... but if we are on those lines, when it comes to "too much output", making sure that this is something that can allow people to easily see and compare an "old" "too much output" to a "new" "too much output" after evaluating a cell/command a second/several

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage booth

2016-01-05 Thread kcrisman
> > > > That's right. I added Aly to the project so she has access to that file. > Do you want access?I've made the file public so that anybody can read > it now, at least. > > That is a big improvement :) Unfortunately Friday afternoon is one of my worst days (and likely many others du

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-01-05 19:27, Jason Grout wrote: FYI, Sylvain Corlay is making some changes to ipywidgets to bring them more into line with the Sage syntax. He said in the Jupyter dev meeting just now that he'll be making a PR today. Cool, however it seems from https://github.com/ipython/ipywidgets/is

[sage-devel] Re: sage booth

2016-01-05 Thread aly.dei...@gmail.com
I signed up for Friday 12:30 - 2p.m. Aly On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 4:06:25 PM UTC-8, William wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there anybody that can help me with the Sage booth at the Joint > Math Meetings this coming week? > > William > > -- > William (http://wstein.org) > -- You received thi

[sage-devel] Re: patchbot hera-optiplex

2016-01-05 Thread Frédéric Chapoton
Hello. The patchbot named 'hera-OptiPlex-7010' is now blacklisted (tentatively). In principle, it can no longer posts its reports. Let us see what happens. If you own this bot, please contact me. I am not happy with that banning, because there are only 4 patchbots running, so now only 3 remain

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > (cross-posting to ipython-dev) > > Jon, > > At the recent San Francisco meetings, we talked about this. What do you > think about: > > 1. keeping track of the size of the io messages sent from any specific > kernel execution > 2. When the tot

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread Jason Grout
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 8:17:45 AM UTC-7, William wrote: > > > One example of a subtle feature in Sage (notebook and worksheets) not > in Jupyter, which I was just reminded of, is output limiting. In Sage > there are numerous rules/options to deal with people doing stuff like: > > whil

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread Jason Grout
FYI, Sylvain Corlay is making some changes to ipywidgets to bring them more into line with the Sage syntax. He said in the Jupyter dev meeting just now that he'll be making a PR today. Thanks, Jason On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 7:45:19 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2016-01-03 14:41,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread Jason Grout
(cross-posting to ipython-dev) Jon, At the recent San Francisco meetings, we talked about this. What do you think about: 1. keeping track of the size of the io messages sent from any specific kernel execution 2. When the total size of io reaches some specific size (user-configurable), transmitt

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread Jason Grout
FYI, you can set the notebook directory with a command line switch: jupyter notebook --NotebookApp.notebook_dir=~/.sage/jupyter Thanks, Jason On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 5:25:52 PM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: > > If you start Jupyter in ~/foo then you cannot open notebooks in > ~/.sage/jupy

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread Jonathan Frederic
Jason, Thanks for pulling me in on this. William, I agree, getting a bunch of people to agree about stuff can be impossible. You mention Sage offers a couple options to mitigate output overflows, can you point me to those options? The Jupyter Notebook should provide multiple options for this to

[sage-devel] Re: Build failure OS X (10.11 El capitan) sage-6.10

2016-01-05 Thread jhonrubia6
Hi, in which one (I only see install.log)? It is true that no dancing_links_c.h in the directory, so the error makes sense. I am going to try once more, maybe there is some software prerequisite that I did not pay attention to (other than having command line tools installed) I will report again

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread kcrisman
> I'd also be more than happy to ship the personal SMC edition with sage > when its ready; But sticking with the essentially unsupported SageNB for > 1+years just to wait&see is not a sane plan. Even then, jupyter notebooks > are a forward-safe choice so we have nothing to gain from waiting wh

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage booth

2016-01-05 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:48 AM, kcrisman wrote: >> >> > I'll be around. Is there any sort of formal sign up sheet? >> >> Yep, here >> >> >> https://cloud.sagemath.com/projects/245a2e18-a0a4-4104-b31d-0c9ced802a69/files/schedule/sage-booth.md >> >> > > Error opening 'schedule/sage-booth.md' -- "pa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage booth

2016-01-05 Thread kcrisman
> > > > I'll be around. Is there any sort of formal sign up sheet? > > Yep, here > > > https://cloud.sagemath.com/projects/245a2e18-a0a4-4104-b31d-0c9ced802a69/files/schedule/sage-booth.md > > > > Error opening 'schedule/sage-booth.md' -- "path 'schedule/sage-booth.md' of project with id

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread Volker Braun
Indeed, there are at least *three* different multi-user Jupyter servers. On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 5:26:24 PM UTC+1, William wrote: > > > There are at least two different multi-user Jupyter versions that are of > > interest; the authenticated (via unix account, much better than SageNB) > >

[sage-devel] Re: Build failure OS X (10.11 El capitan) sage-6.10

2016-01-05 Thread Volker Braun
The original error is proabably higher up in your log On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 4:27:09 PM UTC+1, jhonrubia6 wrote: > > Hi, > I just upgraded my OS X version, downloaded source code sage-6.10, and the > command line tools, and try to build the source code having the following > errors > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Volker Braun wrote: > I'd also be more than happy to ship the personal SMC edition with sage when > its ready; But sticking with the essentially unsupported SageNB for 1+years > just to wait&see is not a sane plan. Even then, jupyter notebooks are a > forward-safe c

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread Volker Braun
I'd also be more than happy to ship the personal SMC edition with sage when its ready; But sticking with the essentially unsupported SageNB for 1+years just to wait&see is not a sane plan. Even then, jupyter notebooks are a forward-safe choice so we have nothing to gain from waiting while people

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage booth

2016-01-05 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 7:39 AM, aly.dei...@gmail.com wrote: > I'll be around. Is there any sort of formal sign up sheet? Yep, here https://cloud.sagemath.com/projects/245a2e18-a0a4-4104-b31d-0c9ced802a69/files/schedule/sage-booth.md > > Aly > > > On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 4:06:25 P

[sage-devel] Re: sage booth

2016-01-05 Thread aly.dei...@gmail.com
I'll be around. Is there any sort of formal sign up sheet? Aly On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 4:06:25 PM UTC-8, William wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there anybody that can help me with the Sage booth at the Joint > Math Meetings this coming week? > > William > > -- > William (http://wstein.org)

[sage-devel] Build failure OS X (10.11 El capitan) sage-6.10

2016-01-05 Thread jhonrubia6
Hi, I just upgraded my OS X version, downloaded source code sage-6.10, and the command line tools, and try to build the source code having the following errors /Users/J_Honrubia/sage/sage-6.10/src/build/cythonized/sage/combinat/matrices/dancing_links.cpp:293:29: fatal error: dancing_links_c.h

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:57 AM, kcrisman wrote: > The question wasn't for you, but for all those who early in this thread said > how awesome Jupyter was. But thank you for confirming. Some people tend to use/develop either Jupyter or SageMath notebooks exclusively, and remain a little ignorant o

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-05 Thread kcrisman
> >> >>> > As stated, that would break the compatibility with SMC magics that >>> William >>> > just declared intangible (and always "cell magic"). >>> >>> Just to be clear: I don't care whether or not whatever design you >>> guys are coming up with in this thread is compatible with SMC S

Re: [sage-devel] Sage & pip

2016-01-05 Thread John Cremona
Thanks for the reply! On 5 January 2016 at 13:15, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2016-01-05 14:02, John Cremona wrote: >> >> ImportError: No module named 'pip._vendor.requests' > Yes, I found the same (and had a strong feeling of deja vu...) > > See https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2345 > > I wou

Re: [sage-devel] Sage & pip

2016-01-05 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-01-05 14:02, John Cremona wrote: ImportError: No module named 'pip._vendor.requests' See https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2345 I would try ./sage -f openssl python2 Let us know if that helped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel

[sage-devel] Sage & pip

2016-01-05 Thread John Cremona
Is it still necessary to install pip manually (with sage -i pip) or does that now happen autimatically? After building -- it seemed successfully -- version 7.0.beta2, I find that ./sage -pip shows this: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/jec/sage/local/bin/pip", line 9, in load

[sage-devel] Re: update of sagemath ppa

2016-01-05 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi Wilfried We are busy working on it; due to some filename and layout changes in sage this has been delayed a bit. We have a dev PPA where we test sage (and it currently contains a broken sage!). https://launchpad.net/~aims/+archive/ubuntu/sagemath-dev/+packages I expect to have a working sage