[sage-devel] Re: optional graph database

2013-05-22 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 23 May 2013 13:52, Jason Grout wrote: > On 5/23/13 12:34 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> can't the optional package nauty be used instead? Surely it can generate >> all these graphs very quickly. > > > Indeed, if all you are doing is generating the graphs, yes. The graph > database allows you

[sage-devel] Re: optional graph database

2013-05-22 Thread Jason Grout
On 5/23/13 12:34 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: can't the optional package nauty be used instead? Surely it can generate all these graphs very quickly. Indeed, if all you are doing is generating the graphs, yes. The graph database allows you to quickly query for graphs based on a number of differ

[sage-devel] Re: optional graph database

2013-05-22 Thread Dima Pasechnik
can't the optional package nauty be used instead? Surely it can generate all these graphs very quickly. On Thursday, 23 May 2013 00:54:54 UTC+8, William wrote: > > Hi, > > This page of the Sage documentation talks about "the optional database > package containing all unlabeled graphs with 8 or

Re: [sage-devel] Matplotlib and sage's python

2013-05-22 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 22/05/2013 23:39, Javier López Peña a écrit : On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 7:30:07 AM UTC+1, Snark wrote: Is there a non-default and easy way to get a working matplotlib-on-bare-python? Depending on your operating system getting matplotlib working over system python can be quite a tri

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 23/05/2013 00:53, William Stein a écrit : Yes, but EPL is GPL incompatible, so it can't be a standard package. Isn't it a case of confusion between sage-the-software and sage-the-distribution? Quite a few distributions ship graphviz and GPL software -- even debian, which is pretty touchy

[sage-devel] Re: poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote: How about a new category of "extra" spkgs that are nice to have but not really required. We could even install them by default, if wanted. I'd say that would probably make sense for dot2tex (as suggested in my other reply), but not really for graphviz. Perhaps only if yo

[sage-devel] Re: Mirror for 32-bit Ubuntu LTS.

2013-05-22 Thread leif
Keshav Kini wrote: leif writes: Thierry wrote: Hi, looking at http://ask.sagemath.org/question/2582/installing-error-in-linux-mint-13 i saw that sagemath.org only distributes 32-bit binaries for Ubuntu 13.04. While it is good to have binaries for the last version of ubuntu, it could be nice t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Mirror for 32-bit Ubuntu LTS.

2013-05-22 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: > leif writes: >> Thierry wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> looking at >>> http://ask.sagemath.org/question/2582/installing-error-in-linux-mint-13 >>> i saw that sagemath.org only distributes 32-bit binaries for Ubuntu >>> 13.04. While it is good to have b

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Volker Braun wrote: > Isn't graphviz under the EPL? Thats not so bad. And we don't even want to > link to it, so its perfectly fine for us to distribute it. Yes, but EPL is GPL incompatible, so it can't be a standard package. I shouldn't have used the word "nasty"

[sage-devel] Re: poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread Volker Braun
Isn't graphviz under the EPL? Thats not so bad. And we don't even want to link to it, so its perfectly fine for us to distribute it. How about a new category of "extra" spkgs that are nice to have but not really required. We could even install them by default, if wanted. Perhaps only if you hav

[sage-devel] Re: Mirror for 32-bit Ubuntu LTS.

2013-05-22 Thread Keshav Kini
leif writes: > Thierry wrote: >> Hi, >> >> looking at >> http://ask.sagemath.org/question/2582/installing-error-in-linux-mint-13 >> i saw that sagemath.org only distributes 32-bit binaries for Ubuntu >> 13.04. While it is good to have binaries for the last version of ubuntu, >> it could be nice to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage Case Study for NSF

2013-05-22 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:47 PM, rjf wrote: > > > I stuck in some comments, but I'm not sure how they get viewed. > RJF Thanks! I can see them when I click "comments" in the upper right. If other people want to comment, please continue to do so -- I haven't finalized this... > > -- > You recei

Re: [sage-devel] poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 09:04:51PM +0200, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 05/22/2013 06:58 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > >An answer is that graphviz is often already installed on the system. > Really? Are there any Linux distributions which come with graphviz > installed? Most likely not on a vanilla

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Case Study for NSF

2013-05-22 Thread rjf
I stuck in some comments, but I'm not sure how they get viewed. RJF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To p

Re: [sage-devel] Matplotlib and sage's python

2013-05-22 Thread Javier López Peña
On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 7:30:07 AM UTC+1, Snark wrote: > Is there a non-default and easy way to get a working > matplotlib-on-bare-python? > Depending on your operating system getting matplotlib working over system python can be quite a tricky task, IIRC on Mac OSX 10.6 you must install so

Re: [sage-devel] poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:58:56 AM UTC-7, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: > > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 09:13:09AM -0700, kcrisman wrote: > > A standard package which is only useful in the presence of an > optional > > package doesn't make sense to me. > > It simplifies our users's life,

[sage-devel] Re: Finite field matrix speeds

2013-05-22 Thread Volker Braun
I posted a patch at http://trac.sagemath.org/14627 (needs review) With the patch there is no measurable performance difference between setA and setB On Monday, May 20, 2013 8:04:14 PM UTC+1, Stefan wrote: > > cpdef setA(A, X, V, m): > AA = A > for i in xrange(m): > AA.set_unsafe

[sage-devel] Re: Make mod_int signed?

2013-05-22 Thread Volker Braun
This is now http://trac.sagemath.org/14627 (needs review) On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:40:00 PM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: > > Reposted at the top to increase visiblitiy (see > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/5PdRIUic2Es/l0yDYLG_8qIJ) > > The sage matrices use unsigned long for the m

Re: [sage-devel] poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 05/22/2013 06:58 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: An answer is that graphviz is often already installed on the system. Really? Are there any Linux distributions which come with graphviz installed? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group.

[sage-devel] Re: optional graph database

2013-05-22 Thread Jason Grout
On 5/22/13 12:36 PM, kcrisman wrote: On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:54:54 PM UTC-4, William wrote: Hi, This page of the Sage documentation talks about "the optional database package containing all unlabeled graphs with 8 or fewer nodes.": http://www.sagemath.org/doc/reference/

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:39:36AM -0700, William Stein wrote: > I installed the dot2tex package on https://cloud.sagemath.com, but > when I try to actually use it with this example: > > g = sage.categories.category.category_graph() > g.set_latex_options(format="dot2tex") > view(g, pdflatex=True,

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 09:13:09AM -0700, kcrisman wrote: >> A standard package which is only useful in the presence of an optional >> package doesn't make sense to me. > > It simplifies our users's life, and that is useful! Als

[sage-devel] Re: optional graph database

2013-05-22 Thread kcrisman
On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:54:54 PM UTC-4, William wrote: > > Hi, > > This page of the Sage documentation talks about "the optional database > package containing all unlabeled graphs with 8 or fewer nodes.": > > > http://www.sagemath.org/doc/reference/graphs/sage/graphs/graph_databas

Re: [sage-devel] Re: test changes on sage.tests.book_stein_ent

2013-05-22 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 09:34:27AM +0100, David Loeffler wrote: > We should have a clear policy on this, because it's been a contentious > issue in the past. I remember this came up once with regard to a patch > I had refereed, which changed an error message in finite fields and > thus broke the do

Re: [sage-devel] poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 09:13:09AM -0700, kcrisman wrote: > A standard package which is only useful in the presence of an optional > package doesn't make sense to me. It simplifies our users's life, and that is useful! Also it simplifies *my* life: I am tired, e.g. during Sage Days, of h

[sage-devel] optional graph database

2013-05-22 Thread William Stein
Hi, This page of the Sage documentation talks about "the optional database package containing all unlabeled graphs with 8 or fewer nodes.": http://www.sagemath.org/doc/reference/graphs/sage/graphs/graph_database.html But there is no optional graph database, or any optional/experimental pa

Re: [sage-devel] Matplotlib and sage's python

2013-05-22 Thread Benjamin Jones
Without building GUI support, it should work to replace show() with savefig('plot.png'), for example. You won't get a window spawned with the plot, but an image on disk. -- Benjamin Jones benjaminfjo...@gmail.com On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Julien Puydt wrote: > Le 21/05/2013 21:57, Willi

Re: [sage-devel] poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread kcrisman
On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:55:12 AM UTC-4, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 05/22/2013 04:32 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > > - [X] No, keep it as optional > > A standard package which is only useful in the presence of an optional > package doesn't make sense to me. > > And I fail to see why i

Re: [sage-devel] poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 05/22/2013 04:32 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: - [X] No, keep it as optional A standard package which is only useful in the presence of an optional package doesn't make sense to me. And I fail to see why installing both graphviz and dot2tex is more difficult than just installing dot2tex (

[sage-devel] Re: poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Will it become the 1st standard package that needs an optional package, i.e. graphviz, to function? On Wednesday, 22 May 2013 22:32:59 UTC+8, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: > > Dear Sage developers, > > This is a poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg. > > - [ ] Yes, make dot2tex a standard

Re: [sage-devel] Matplotlib and sage's python

2013-05-22 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:30:07 PM UTC-7, Snark wrote: > > Le 21/05/2013 21:57, William Stein a �crit : > > Sage is by default built with any GUI support. > > Is there a non-default and easy way to get a working > matplotlib-on-bare-python? > > You should check the matplotlib web page

[sage-devel] poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg

2013-05-22 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear Sage developers, This is a poll for making dot2tex a standard spkg. - [ ] Yes, make dot2tex a standard spkg - [ ] No, keep it as optional Description of dot2tex -- dot2tex [1] is a small pure python module (5000 lines), whose purpose is to give graphs generated

Re: [sage-devel] If you have (or want) an account on OpenSolaris box "hawk"

2013-05-22 Thread David Kirkby
Sorry about that - I will have to investigate later today. I need to go out now Dave On 22 May 2013 13:29, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 05/22/2013 11:40 AM, David Kirkby wrote: >> >> Oops, >> For some reason the fan was loud last night and i powered it off. I'll >> power it on now - it shou;d be u

Re: [sage-devel] If you have (or want) an account on OpenSolaris box "hawk"

2013-05-22 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 05/22/2013 11:40 AM, David Kirkby wrote: Oops, For some reason the fan was loud last night and i powered it off. I'll power it on now - it shou;d be up in a few minutes I still cannot access it: ssh: connect to host suni86.zapto.org port 22: No route to host -- You received this message be

Re: [sage-devel] If you have (or want) an account on OpenSolaris box "hawk"

2013-05-22 Thread Dima Pasechnik
It doesn't surprise me that Sun goes down at night... On Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:40:26 UTC+8, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > Oops, > For some reason the fan was loud last night and i powered it off. I'll > power it on now - it shou;d be up in a few minutes > > Dave > > On 22 May 2013 10:13, Jer

Re: [sage-devel] If you have (or want) an account on OpenSolaris box "hawk"

2013-05-22 Thread David Kirkby
Oops, For some reason the fan was loud last night and i powered it off. I'll power it on now - it shou;d be up in a few minutes Dave On 22 May 2013 10:13, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 05/17/2013 06:16 PM, David Kirkby wrote: >> >> I've recently changed to an ISP which does not give me a static IP.

Re: [sage-devel] If you have (or want) an account on OpenSolaris box "hawk"

2013-05-22 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 05/17/2013 06:16 PM, David Kirkby wrote: I've recently changed to an ISP which does not give me a static IP. Hence I have set up an account with one of the dns services to give me a fixed domain. suni86.zapto.org It currently doesn't work (it did work when you sent this message): buildbot@

Re: [sage-devel] Re: building on Ubuntu 13.10 saucy

2013-05-22 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi Ah, it got removed with the system upgrade! Anyway, without it Singular fails to find c++config.h. I'm not sure it is worth pursuing as this is an Ubuntu development release. Regards, Jan On 22 May 2013 10:03, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 05/22/2013 07:42 AM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > >> Hi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: building on Ubuntu 13.10 saucy

2013-05-22 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 05/22/2013 07:42 AM, Jan Groenewald wrote: Hi That is a wrapper around gcc I use a lot. Clearly not on this system, since colorgcc doesn't exist. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivi