Re: [sage-devel] SAGE as TCP-based Server

2013-04-24 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:18 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Apr 24, 2013 1:57 AM, "Torsten" wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > there are two very interesting talks about > > > > 'Salvus: Distributed Scalable Online Mathematical Software' > > > > using SAGE as TCP-based server, see > > > > http://www

[sage-devel] could SAGE use the messaging library in the SIMPL toolkit?

2013-04-24 Thread bobicanprogram
I came across your very interesting project recently. While I'm not involved in mathematical research myself, I am the facilitator of the open source SIMPL project (http://www.icanprogram.com/simpl).It struck me as I scanned the material (including videos) on your website that the interfac

Re: [sage-devel] Looking for a GSOC mentor - improving Sage's core performance

2013-04-24 Thread Jernej Azarija
On Wednesday, 24 April 2013 16:54:12 UTC+2, Martin Albrecht wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 Apr 2013, Jernej Azarija wrote: > > 4. Optimized linear algebra over small fields with M4RI > > and on: http://azi.dev.si/GSOC2013_proposal2.html > > Integrate the M4RI routines and thus speed up computation

Re: [sage-devel] Looking for a GSOC mentor - improving Sage's core performance

2013-04-24 Thread Jernej Azarija
On Wednesday, 24 April 2013 13:52:06 UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 04/24/2013 12:51 PM, Jernej Azarija wrote: > > 3. Slow startup of Sage > This is already a Sage GSOC project, check out the projects page. It > would certainly be good to work on this. > > Yes yes! I included that in thi

Re: [sage-devel] Blocker tickets

2013-04-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 04/24/2013 04:52 PM, Martin Raum wrote: Implementing a workaround for all OS's then is essentially equivalent to skipping part of the test I don't agree with this statement. The test is about the functioning of pexpect, not about OS-specific timings. It's not the job of Sage to test the oper

Re: [sage-devel] Looking for a GSOC mentor - improving Sage's core performance

2013-04-24 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Wednesday 24 Apr 2013, Jernej Azarija wrote: > 4. Optimized linear algebra over small fields with M4RI and on: http://azi.dev.si/GSOC2013_proposal2.html > Integrate the M4RI routines and thus speed up computations over the covered > fields. M4RI *is* in Sage and so is M4RIE. So I am puzzled w

Re: [sage-devel] Blocker tickets

2013-04-24 Thread Martin Raum
I must say that I saw the ticket and was about to review it, because nobody had done this so far. But I read Volker's comment, and I agree with him. Perhaps the reason for the failure of all of us to review this ticket is that not only Volker feels uncomfortable with such a change. I don't know

Re: [sage-devel] proposal: make the Sage build system more distribution friendly (update)

2013-04-24 Thread Felix Salfelder
Hi Tobias. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:47:06PM +0200, Tobias Hansen wrote: > On 04/24/2013 11:46 AM, Felix Salfelder wrote: > >part of my proposal is > >to make it possible to just install sage ("the distribution") skipping > >everything but the core modules and the notebook. > > So your plan is t

Re: [sage-devel] Blocker tickets

2013-04-24 Thread Volker Braun
I don't think there is a bad consequence for repeatedly checking the status of a terminated child process with exponential backoff. Its just really weird that you would ever do that if your OS works correctly. And IMHO it hurts code maintainability. Not to mention debugging, assuming that you ar

Re: [sage-devel] proposal: make the Sage build system more distribution friendly (update)

2013-04-24 Thread Tobias Hansen
On 04/24/2013 11:46 AM, Felix Salfelder wrote: part of my proposal is to make it possible to just install sage ("the distribution") skipping everything but the core modules and the notebook. So your plan is to make it possible to run configure and make for each directory in /src separately, bu

Re: [sage-devel] Blocker tickets

2013-04-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 04/24/2013 02:37 PM, Volker Braun wrote: For the record, I disagree with the approach to both #14371 and #14460 in that fugly workarounds to fundamental bugs in Solaris or a particular gcc version are applied liberally to, basically, everyone. Sure, sometimes it is necessary to work around bug

Re: [sage-devel] Blocker tickets

2013-04-24 Thread Volker Braun
For the record, I disagree with the approach to both #14371 and #14460 in that fugly workarounds to fundamental bugs in Solaris or a particular gcc version are applied liberally to, basically, everyone. Sure, sometimes it is necessary to work around bugs, but that should be a special case and no

Re: [sage-devel] Blocker tickets

2013-04-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
*ping* This sage-5.9 blocker still needs review: #14371: Race condition in singular doctest http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/14371 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE as TCP-based Server

2013-04-24 Thread William Stein
On Apr 24, 2013 1:57 AM, "Torsten" wrote: > > Hello, > > there are two very interesting talks about > > 'Salvus: Distributed Scalable Online Mathematical Software' > > using SAGE as TCP-based server, see > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-CDGXMh6rQ#t=37m07s > > and > > http://www.youtube.com/wat

Re: [sage-devel] Looking for a GSOC mentor - improving Sage's core performance

2013-04-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 04/24/2013 12:51 PM, Jernej Azarija wrote: 3. Slow startup of Sage This is already a Sage GSOC project, check out the projects page. It would certainly be good to work on this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe f

[sage-devel] Looking for a GSOC mentor - improving Sage's core performance

2013-04-24 Thread Jernej Azarija
Hello! In the discussion about my (potential) participation in GSOC2013 ( see https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/sage-gsoc/J-oU64VM7Pw ) we came to the conclusion that it would be nice to address the following performance issues : 1. Slow performance of combinatorial functions

[sage-devel] Re: browsing Sage source code

2013-04-24 Thread Harald Schilly
I'm happy to change this link, I only hesitate because it gives the wrong impression that we have already switched to git. H On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > There is a link on the sagemath.org web site homepage to the Sage source > code (where it says "open source

Re: [sage-devel] New Trac Server

2013-04-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:40:27 AM UTC+2, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: > > Also, how about the integration with the wiki? That was handcoded by mike >> hansen (if i remember correctly) to prevent the excessive spamming. >> Requests for modifying the wiki also end up as trac account requests. I

Re: [sage-devel] proposal: make the Sage build system more distribution friendly (update)

2013-04-24 Thread Felix Salfelder
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 06:08:54PM -0300, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: > I will make a few comments, attempting to be as constructive > as possible :-) Hi Paolo, hi list. Thanks for going through all this. i'll consider your comments as far as the scope of this project allows. > The

[sage-devel] SAGE as TCP-based Server

2013-04-24 Thread Torsten
Hello, there are two very interesting talks about 'Salvus: Distributed Scalable Online Mathematical Software' using SAGE as TCP-based server, see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-CDGXMh6rQ#t=37m07s and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fftL-RiRCUY#t=1h14m18s It is said, that source code of 'Sa