On 3/2/12 1:40 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
"python setup.py develop" would be nice, how does it deal with Cython
files? In terms of moinmoin, I've wondered why we're shipping the wiki
as a standard spkg. Perhaps gnutls and twisted could be placed on the
chopping block too in the not-too-distant f
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:02 AM, William Stein wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Volker Braun wrote:
>> Python uses a garbage collector to reclaim memory. Objects don't die just
>> because they fall out of scope, they will be around until the next GC cycle.
>
> Minor note: At least when
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:37 AM, William Stein wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Julien Puydt
> wrote:
>> Le mercredi 29 février, William Stein a écrit:
>>> Licenses aren't the issue. We can't include a Haskell program in Sage
>>> without including the Haskell compiler (buildable from
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Keshav Kini wrote:
> William Stein writes:
>> Amazingly, after all we went through, I still have a messed up repo
>> (no master branch). Sigh.
>>
>> deep:d wstein$ git branch
>> 12594
>> github-master
>> lfun
>> * trac_8393
>>
>> I guess I should just start
Jason Grout writes:
> You're right. In fact, bitbucket supports git as well. In many ways,
> bitbucket is nicer than github, for example, the issue tracker is
> better, in my opinion (bitbucket has priorities for tickets, for
> example), and the display on bitbucket is much nicer (the informatio
David Roe writes:
> There are now wiki pages for these events;
>
> Review Days (March 17-22): http://wiki.sagemath.org/review2
>
> Doc Days (April 17-22): http://wiki.sagemath.org/doc6
>
> Bug Days (May 24-29): http://wiki.sagemath.org/bug19
Great, thanks! (And for the finalized dates as well.)
Michael Orlitzky writes:
> The way forward is the sage-on-gentoo/prefix approach:
> spkg-install scripts are just a poor excuse for ebuilds already.
>
> We ship and maintain half of a linux distro, with bugs popping up
> around the arbitrary cut-off point (sage doesn't ship dvipng, so it's
> perpe
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 03/01/2012 04:00 PM, Julien Puydt wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm sorry, but I still fail to see how situation :
>>
>> sage contains all its deps (even if they're already there)
>>
>> will be any better for subtle bugs than situation :
>>
>>
Le jeudi 01 mars, Michael Orlitzky a écrit:
> On 03/01/2012 04:52 PM, William Stein wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm sorry, but I still fail to see how situation :
> >>
> >> sage contains all its deps (even if they're already there)
> >>
> >> will be any better for subtle bugs than situation :
> >>
> >>
On 03/01/2012 04:52 PM, William Stein wrote:
I'm sorry, but I still fail to see how situation :
sage contains all its deps (even if they're already there)
will be any better for subtle bugs than situation :
sage has the same deps, but doesn't manage them itself more than by
declaring
On 03/01/2012 04:00 PM, Julien Puydt wrote:
I'm sorry, but I still fail to see how situation :
sage contains all its deps (even if they're already there)
will be any better for subtle bugs than situation :
sage has the same deps, but doesn't manage them itself more than by
declaring
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Julien Puydt wrote:
> Le jeudi 01 mars, Harald Schilly a écrit:
>> On Thursday, March 1, 2012 12:01:46 AM UTC+1, Snark wrote:
>> >
>> > Could you tell me which magical property of sage makes impossible
>> > what
>> >
>> > is possible for other complex systems, and h
Le jeudi 01 mars, Harald Schilly a écrit:
> On Thursday, March 1, 2012 12:01:46 AM UTC+1, Snark wrote:
> >
> > Could you tell me which magical property of sage makes impossible
> > what
> >
> > is possible for other complex systems, and huge sets of packages?
> >
>
> Put simple: Sage is turing com
On Thursday, March 1, 2012 12:01:46 AM UTC+1, Snark wrote:
>
> Could you tell me which magical property of sage makes impossible what
>
> is possible for other complex systems, and huge sets of packages?
>
Put simple: Sage is turing complete, a "video editor" (office package [*],
or whatever) is
On Thursday, March 1, 2012 7:14:58 PM UTC+1, Akshay Srinivasan wrote:
>
> Would Sage consider funding such a project if it gets selected as
> a mentoring organisation ?
I would answer this with yes, because a) sage needs maxima and b) it's
better to have more proposals from a variety of topi
Thank you for your answers ! I forward the result to ask.sage.
But this sure is something that I will meet again sooner or later :-)
Nathann
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There are now wiki pages for these events; the following people are
planning on attending (though some won't be there full time):
*Review Days* (March 17-22): http://wiki.sagemath.org/review2
- Jen Balakrishnan (Harvard University)
- Rob Beezer (University of Puget Sound)
- Jon Bober (Un
On Mar 1, 9:43 am, kcrisman wrote:
> On Feb 29, 8:46 pm, Jason Grout wrote:
>
> > On 2/29/12 5:31 PM, mmarco wrote:
>
> > > So, returning to the original subject. Would it be ok to have this
> > > natural language interface, say, as an optional package? Or as someone
> > > suggested, to have it
Hi,
This is an odd project idea for GSoC; in that I plan to extend the
capabilities of Maxima by adding better numerical support and things
of the sort. Now I know this will not directly benefit Sage given that
you'd prefer to use Numpy/Scipy to do numerics. In the long run
however, I think this
On 2012-03-01 17:57, William Stein wrote:
> This impacts access to sage recources online...
My impression is that there were problems earlier today but currently
things seem back to normal.
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This impacts access to sage recources online...
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From: "Steve Sheetz"
Date: Mar 1, 2012 8:47 AM
Subject: [business] Fwd: [UW-IT #1488748] uw [OUTAGE][NEW]
To:
FYI, the campus is experiencing some widespread network issue this morning
that may or may not aff
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Keshav Kini wrote:
> Also, besides your posts I was also remembering something you said to
> William (and everyone else) at Sage Days 29 last year about how you could
> vouch for github working well for IPython, if William wanted a testimonial
> about it.
Oh certai
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Keshav Kini wrote:
> I didn't mean to imply you were suggesting we move to github at all. I meant
> that you were suggesting we *consider* moving to github, based on your own
> experience. Is that still wrong?
No, that's certainly correct. Given our positive exper
Is it possible to use these and have them documented nicely? I'd like to
add the following to the MaximaLib class (re: trac #10682),
@property
def domain(self):
r"""
Returns the current value of the maxima `domain` variable.
"""
maxima_command = 'domain'
On Mar 1, 2012 7:50 AM, "Keshav Kini" wrote:
>
> kcrisman writes:
> > On Mar 1, 9:20 am, Keshav Kini wrote:
> >> The main thing I want for Sage's development process is a push/pull
> >> architecture of some kind. I don't mind if that ends up meaning that we
> >> finally start using Mercurial in
Hi Fernando,
I didn't mean to imply you were suggesting we move to github at all. I
meant that you were suggesting we *consider* moving to github, based on
your own experience. Is that still wrong?
Also, besides your posts I was also remembering something you said to
William (and everyone else
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:20 AM, Keshav Kini wrote:
> IPython is also on github,
> and Fernando has strongly recommended we consider moving Sage to github
> (and has been doing so for at least 8 months, as far as I can recall).
If that's how you understood my posts, I wasn't clear enough then.
I'v
Hi,
I already reported this bug but maybe it is worthwhile to mention the
problem here since this bug crashes Sage (console).
I am using Sage Version 4.8, Release Date: 2012-01-20 compiled from sources
(linux). I found a problem related to the computation of Schubert
Polynomials.
Suppose that
On 03/01/2012 10:39 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
On 2012-03-01 13:35, Jason Grout wrote:
Can you elaborate, Jeroen, just so that communication is clear by what
you mean by "totally insecure"?
1) A user on a public Notebook server can run totally arbitrary
commands, including for example sending sp
kcrisman writes:
> On Mar 1, 9:20 am, Keshav Kini wrote:
>> The main thing I want for Sage's development process is a push/pull
>> architecture of some kind. I don't mind if that ends up meaning that we
>> finally start using Mercurial in the way it was "meant" to be used,
>
> Using HG in this wa
Hi
On 1 March 2012 16:39, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> On 2012-03-01 13:35, Jason Grout wrote:
> > Can you elaborate, Jeroen, just so that communication is clear by what
> > you mean by "totally insecure"?
> 1) A user on a public Notebook server can run totally arbitrary
> commands, including for exa
On 2012-03-01 13:35, Jason Grout wrote:
> Can you elaborate, Jeroen, just so that communication is clear by what
> you mean by "totally insecure"?
1) A user on a public Notebook server can run totally arbitrary
commands, including for example sending spam emails or using all system
resources.
2) T
On 28 Feb., 14:14, Harald Schilly wrote:
> So, first of all ask yourself if you are able to be a mentor. This is
> someone who works with a motivated student during the summer, helps
> him or her to setup and understand everything, etc. Also, each project
> should have at least one backup mentor.
On Feb 29, 8:46 pm, Jason Grout wrote:
> On 2/29/12 5:31 PM, mmarco wrote:
>
> > So, returning to the original subject. Would it be ok to have this
> > natural language interface, say, as an optional package? Or as someone
> > suggested, to have it in some experimental server?
>
> Yes! And Yes!
On Mar 1, 9:20 am, Keshav Kini wrote:
> Martin Albrecht writes:
> > Hi,
>
> > please excuse my ignorance especially if this has been covered before, but
> > as
> > far as I can you can do the fork & pull-request development model with
> > mercurial as well, e.g.http://bitbucket.orgsupports it.
Jason Grout writes:
> On 3/1/12 4:19 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>> On 2012-02-29 22:56, Jan Groenewald wrote:
>>> Sage now has to watch the security updates for each component.
>> Sage is totally insecure and watching security updates isn't going to
>> solve this problem.
>>
>
> Can you elaborate,
Martin Albrecht writes:
> Hi,
>
> please excuse my ignorance especially if this has been covered before, but as
> far as I can you can do the fork & pull-request development model with
> mercurial as well, e.g. http://bitbucket.org supports it. I have never used
> it
> though and I never used
On 3/1/12 4:19 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
On 2012-02-29 22:56, Jan Groenewald wrote:
Sage now has to watch the security updates for each component.
Sage is totally insecure and watching security updates isn't going to
solve this problem.
Can you elaborate, Jeroen, just so that communication i
On 3/1/12 3:18 AM, Martin Albrecht wrote:
Hi,
please excuse my ignorance especially if this has been covered before, but as
far as I can you can do the fork& pull-request development model with
mercurial as well, e.g. http://bitbucket.org supports it. I have never used it
though and I never use
On 2012-02-29 22:56, Jan Groenewald wrote:
> Sage now has to watch the security updates for each component.
Sage is totally insecure and watching security updates isn't going to
solve this problem.
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On Thursday, March 1, 2012 5:25:32 PM UTC+8, John Cremona wrote:
>
> On 29 February 2012 22:23, David Roe wrote:
> > You can use the custom query:
> >
> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/query?status=needs_review&author=~cremona&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priorit
On 29 February 2012 22:23, David Roe wrote:
> You can use the custom query:
> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/query?status=needs_review&author=~cremona&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&col=component
>
Thanks for that hint, but I find the results
Hi,
please excuse my ignorance especially if this has been covered before, but as
far as I can you can do the fork & pull-request development model with
mercurial as well, e.g. http://bitbucket.org supports it. I have never used it
though and I never used the equivalent on github.
https://conf
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