Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-16 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-02-17 06:28, John H Palmieri wrote: > On a laptop which failed to build without clang, using clang mostly > worked, except (building either with or without SAGE_CHECK), I got this > doctest failure: On this laptop on which GCC failed to build with Apple's gcc, could you please try to build

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-16 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-02-17 06:28, John H Palmieri wrote: > > Unhandled SIGABRT: An abort() occurred in Sage. > This probably occurred because a *compiled* component of Sage has a bug > in it and is not properly wrapped with sig_on(), sig_o

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-16 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-02-17 06:28, John H Palmieri wrote: > On several desktop machines, which didn't have problems building Sage > without using clang, using clang also worked: all self-tests (except > python and cvxopt) passed, and all of Sage's tests passed. > > On a laptop which failed to build without clan

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Short script dumps me at the command line

2012-02-16 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Feb 16, 2012, at 19:40 , Bill Hart wrote: > Actually, I think I missed a line. Here is the script that causes the > problem: > > M=matrix(2,2,[27, -11, 15, 1]) > G,mu = M.gram_schmidt() > M2 = matrix(2,3,[27,-11,29,15,1,9]) > M2 = matrix(2,3,[27,-11,21,15,1,9]) > G2,mu2 = M2.gram_schmidt() >

[sage-devel] Re: Short script dumps me at the command line

2012-02-16 Thread Keshav Kini
Dima Pasechnik writes: > but it could well be that this character got mangled on its way... U+00A0 is NO-BREAK SPACE. If there is a sequence of multiple spaces (U+0020 SPACE) in a message, some mail programs will replace every other space, or every space but the first, with non-breaking spaces.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-16 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:21:40 PM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:59:16 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:50:52 AM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: >>> >>> John, entropy, Could you try the following: >>> >>>

[sage-devel] Re: running a wiki with Sage

2012-02-16 Thread Dima Pasechnik
In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: > On 16 February 2012 18:28, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: >>> I started a wiki server from the same account that I use to run a Sage >>> notebook server with no problems, by issuing the command "sage -wik

[sage-devel] Re: Short script dumps me at the command line

2012-02-16 Thread Dima Pasechnik
In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: > the following short script dumps me at the command line in Sage 4.8: > > M=matrix(2,2,[27, -11, 15, 1]) > G,mu = M.gram_schmidt() > M2 = matrix(2,3,[27,-11,21,15,1,9]) > G2,mu2 = M2.gram_schmidt() > float(G2[1].norm() - G[1].norm())  > 0 last line

[sage-devel] Re: Short script dumps me at the command line

2012-02-16 Thread Bill Hart
Actually, I think I missed a line. Here is the script that causes the problem: M=matrix(2,2,[27, -11, 15, 1]) G,mu = M.gram_schmidt() M2 = matrix(2,3,[27,-11,29,15,1,9]) M2 = matrix(2,3,[27,-11,21,15,1,9]) G2,mu2 = M2.gram_schmidt() float(G2[1].norm() - G[1].norm())  > 0 It is only a problem afte

[sage-devel] Short script dumps me at the command line

2012-02-16 Thread Bill Hart
Hi, the following short script dumps me at the command line in Sage 4.8: M=matrix(2,2,[27, -11, 15, 1]) G,mu = M.gram_schmidt() M2 = matrix(2,3,[27,-11,21,15,1,9]) G2,mu2 = M2.gram_schmidt() float(G2[1].norm() - G[1].norm())  > 0 It prints: WARNING: You or a %run:ed script called sys.s

[sage-devel] Re: running a wiki with Sage

2012-02-16 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/16/12 7:40 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: John Cremona writes: Is anyone else out there using Sage as a wiki server? This is a good question. I floated the idea of removing MoinMoin from Sage on #10801, though I later rescinded it since it would only save us 20 MB, but I still don't really know

[sage-devel] Re: running a wiki with Sage

2012-02-16 Thread Keshav Kini
John Cremona writes: > Is anyone else out there using Sage as a wiki server? This is a good question. I floated the idea of removing MoinMoin from Sage on #10801, though I later rescinded it since it would only save us 20 MB, but I still don't really know why we bundle MoinMoin with Sage. What i

[sage-devel] Re: jmol error on sagenb.org, aleph.sagemath.org

2012-02-16 Thread Jonathan
On Feb 15, 7:43 am, Jonathan wrote: > Will you make a ticket or should I? I've created a ticket here: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12523 Jonathan -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+

Re: [sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-16 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: > Robert Bradshaw writes: >>> Well, considering among other things the recent discussions about >>> licensing, I don't think that it's going to be possible to have a single >>> top-level repository for all Sage code. >> >> But for everything not

Re: [sage-devel] Re: running a wiki with Sage

2012-02-16 Thread John Cremona
On 16 February 2012 18:28, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: >> I started a wiki server from the same account that I use to run a Sage >> notebook server with no problems, by issuing the command "sage -wiki". >>  It sort of works, but I get a lot of error mes

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Want to run a patchbot?

2012-02-16 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:20 AM, kcrisman wrote: > Sorry, my RSS feed is broken for sage-devel so I didn't see that this > thread had had lots of horrible things patchbot can do :) > >> > On a related note, an option to have patchbot only test files actually >> > changed in the patches would be us

[sage-devel] Re: running a wiki with Sage

2012-02-16 Thread Dima Pasechnik
In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: > I started a wiki server from the same account that I use to run a Sage > notebook server with no problems, by issuing the command "sage -wiki". > It sort of works, but I get a lot of error messages, starting with > > > Traceback (most recent call

[sage-devel] running a wiki with Sage

2012-02-16 Thread John Cremona
I started a wiki server from the same account that I use to run a Sage notebook server with no problems, by issuing the command "sage -wiki". It sort of works, but I get a lot of error messages, starting with Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/sage/sage-4.8/local/lib/python2.

[sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-16 Thread Dima Pasechnik
In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Feb 15, 6:31 pm, kcrisman wrote: On Feb 15, 7:22 pm, rjf wrote: > > IMHO, a native port of Sage to Windows c

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-16 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: >> >> >> On Feb 15, 6:31 pm, kcrisman wrote: >>> On Feb 15, 7:22 pm, rjf wrote: >>> >>> > > IMHO, a native port of Sage to Windows could not be done in a week or >>> > > two. >>> > > Perhap

[sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-16 Thread Dima Pasechnik
In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: > > > On Feb 15, 6:31 pm, kcrisman wrote: >> On Feb 15, 7:22 pm, rjf wrote: >> >> > > IMHO, a native port of Sage to Windows could not be done in a week or >> > > two. >> > > Perhaps a Cygwin port could, but I'm talking of a native port, where the

[sage-devel] Re: git and gerrit

2012-02-16 Thread Jason Grout
On 2/16/12 10:57 AM, Christopher Swenson wrote: Reviewed changes should be very small so that they are easy to verify and review. Also, most changes are bugfixes or minor feature adds, so it should not create large, hard to merge commits. If you have such a large change, you should probably be s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: git and gerrit

2012-02-16 Thread Christopher Swenson
Reviewed changes should be very small so that they are easy to verify and review. Also, most changes are bugfixes or minor feature adds, so it should not create large, hard to merge commits. If you have such a large change, you should probably be splitting into multiple reviews anyway. I know the

[sage-devel] Gathering use cases

2012-02-16 Thread Florent Hivert
Hi, With some sage/sage-combinat developers, we get hurt several time by the problem of equality vs. coercion. Before discussing the problem I'd like to gather use cases. I created a page on the wiki: http://wiki.sagemath.org/EqualityCoercion Please add more example when you hit one.

[sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-16 Thread kcrisman
> > Then you haven't tried to actually do this, which of course we know. > > Unfortunately, even getting Maxima to work right on Cygwin with ECL > > ... maybe because running ECL is the wrong choice, dictated by a > misguided policy about what software is politically acceptable. Perhaps; I have no

[sage-devel] Re: git and gerrit

2012-02-16 Thread Keshav Kini
Jason Grout writes:: > Kini is working on an SEP for moving to git for revision control. > What experience/feelings do people have for gerrit [1]? After looking into it a bit, I've found some things that I really don't like, for example the following admonition from `a wiki page about gerrit work

[sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-16 Thread rjf
On Feb 15, 6:31 pm, kcrisman wrote: > On Feb 15, 7:22 pm, rjf wrote: > > > > IMHO, a native port of Sage to Windows could not be done in a week or two. > > > Perhaps a Cygwin port could, but I'm talking of a native port, where the > > > code runs directly on Windows, without any Linux virtual m

[sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-16 Thread rjf
On Feb 15, 5:10 pm, Volker Braun wrote: > On Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:32:36 PM UTC-8, rjf wrote: > > > The number of downloads on windows is about 216,000  since August. > > The number of downloads on Linux is about 675. > > Many distributions ship with a maxima package, for example Fedora

[sage-devel] git and gerrit

2012-02-16 Thread Jason Grout
Kini is working on an SEP for moving to git for revision control. What experience/feelings do people have for gerrit [1]? Gerrit is used for Android and Eclipse, for example. Thanks, Jason [1] http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/ Talk on gerrit: http://vimeo.com/23609339 Short Tutorial on gerri

[sage-devel] Re: Want to run a patchbot?

2012-02-16 Thread kcrisman
Sorry, my RSS feed is broken for sage-devel so I didn't see that this thread had had lots of horrible things patchbot can do :) > > On a related note, an option to have patchbot only test files actually > > changed in the patches would be useful.  Obviously this would not be > > the default!  But

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Open Advice

2012-02-16 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:03 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 8:02 am, P Purkayastha wrote: >> http://open-advice.org/ >> >> Not directly related to Sage, but I felt the book is a good collection of >> developer experience in all aspects of open source development. > > Quote: > We hope that a

[sage-devel] Re: Open Advice

2012-02-16 Thread kcrisman
On Feb 16, 8:02 am, P Purkayastha wrote: > http://open-advice.org/ > > Not directly related to Sage, but I felt the book is a good collection of > developer experience in all aspects of open source development. Quote: We hope that after reading the book you are very excited about contributing t

[sage-devel] Re: Trac attachment notification

2012-02-16 Thread kcrisman
On Feb 16, 12:19 am, Keshav Kini wrote: > See this incredibly old Trac trac ticket:http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2259 > > It looks like even though our version of Trac is pretty old, even > upgrading to the latest Trac might not solve this... > Could we (meaning, someone who understands Trac,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Trac attachment notification

2012-02-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 02/16/2012 12:19 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: See this incredibly old Trac trac ticket: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2259 It looks like even though our version of Trac is pretty old, even upgrading to the latest Trac might not solve this... *facepalm* Thanks. -- To post to this group, send a

[sage-devel] Open Advice

2012-02-16 Thread P Purkayastha
http://open-advice.org/ Not directly related to Sage, but I felt the book is a good collection of developer experience in all aspects of open source development. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+u

[sage-devel] Fix packages wanting to run autoconf (#12501) needs review

2012-02-16 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Some Sage packages want to run autoconf/autoheader/automake during installation. This may fail, since auto$foo is not a prerequisite of Sage. Usually, the build still works but in some cases, this may cause the build to fail (this happens for example with ecm-6.3.p3 on the Skynet machine "iras"). T

[sage-devel] Re: log messages

2012-02-16 Thread Keshav Kini
Robert Bradshaw writes: >> Well, considering among other things the recent discussions about >> licensing, I don't think that it's going to be possible to have a single >> top-level repository for all Sage code. > > But for everything not part of the upstream packages, licensing > shouldn't be an

[sage-devel] Should the -o option of the gap session be stablished at runtime?

2012-02-16 Thread mmarco
The gap session to which sage communicates is started by default with the option -o G set. This means that, if gap uses all the memory it won't return an error message, but will be killed by the OS. The sage session continues, with an error message, but there would be "orphan" objects that poin