> > Then you haven't tried to actually do this, which of course we know. > > Unfortunately, even getting Maxima to work right on Cygwin with ECL > > ... maybe because running ECL is the wrong choice, dictated by a > misguided policy about what software is politically acceptable.
Perhaps; I have no horse in that race. > My own personal experience has been that I will struggle for several > days > on some such project, and then get help from a true expert who solves > the problem in 60 seconds. Correct. Unfortunately, in this case you really need someone who is an expert in a very, very small (though nonempty) Venn diagram intersection. There probably aren't too many folks who get Windows in the way needed *and* are experts about internals of things like PARI and GAP. > Yes, there is > > > probably a lot of C code in some of the packages in Sage which are not > > really up to standards or are heavily reliant on Gnu-specific stuff... > > Dave K. has been very helpful along these lines. > > > But that's what we need to include in order to get the highest-quality > > *mathematics* in Sage. And that, in the end, is the point. The > > notebook and Sage cell make it less and less necessary to do anything > > outside the cloud anyway. > > My own feeling is that pieces of Sage are just not necessarily high > quality. Consider all the code written in Python. Is it really the > highest performance code, or is just the stuff that happens to be > in Python? Mathematically, not performance. Some of it is probably quite slow. Here the communities depart ways based on discipline, I think. As an analogy, R, for instance, is universally complained about in this regard. But it has so much good functionality in user- contributed packages, that people still use it (and companies, apparently profitable ones, create add-ons to speed it up for such users). It's also extremely widely used, and growing all the time - in production environments, too, not just (or even mainly) academia. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org