On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Feb 15, 6:31 pm, kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Feb 15, 7:22 pm, rjf <fate...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > IMHO, a native port of Sage to Windows could not be done in a week or 
>>> > > two.
>>> > > Perhaps a Cygwin port could, but I'm talking of a native port, where the
>>> > > code runs directly on Windows, without any Linux virtual machines,
>>> > > emulators or similar.
>>>
>>> > I see no reason to reject MinGW, Cygwin, or other libraries as part of
>>> > a Sage system on Windows.
>>>
>>> Then you haven't tried to actually do this, which of course we know.
>>> Unfortunately, even getting Maxima to work right on Cygwin with ECL
>>
>> ... maybe because running ECL is the wrong choice, dictated by a
>> misguided policy about what software is politically acceptable.
>>
>>> was nontrivial lately because of how Juanjo had to do forking (which
>>> he's since gotten around entirely) which does not work on Cygwin
>>> properly.  (And I say this out of sheer experience trying to get it to
>>> work, not because I know anything about forking.  Those who do are
>>> even more emphatic about it.)
>>>
>>>  > If you wish, I'll offer you a 20:1 bet.. If you, or someone you
>>> know, can
>>>
>>> > > get a full port of Sage done inside a month, I'll pay you $2000.
>>>
>>> > I think that a month (160 hours X expert rate of, say, $500/hour)
>>> > would
>>> > do it.  That is far more than $2,000.
>
> By far the quickest way to make Sage run on Windows is to get an expert
> to fix Cygwin's fork implementation.
>
> The problem is that while such persons exist, they all have
> signed an NDA, which would prevent them to do what's needed.

Why do you think it's *possible* to have a good fork implementation in
Cygwin?  I had the impression that it is impossible.

Also, there is much, much more wrong with Cygwin than just fork...

>
> Anything esle is a huge waste of man-hours.
> (of course this makes your 500$/h experts in wheel reinvention
> laughing all the way to the bank...)
>
> Frankly, that's disturbing, isn't it?
>
> Dima
>
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