[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

> > How about "close analogue". > > No, I don't like that. If nothing else, it will be more confusing to those > whose > first language is not English, and even though mine is, I don't like that > term. Tom Boothby can "inventor" a word. I do like "analogues" though. m-w.com: "1:something tha

Re: [sage-devel] Please explain _pari_ and _pari_init_

Hello, On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > I noticed some classes in Sage have a _pari_ method (which seems to be > used to convert self to a PARI GEN).  But there is also _pari_init_, > which seems to be more or less the same (although, through a string). > What is the point

Re: [sage-devel] Strange behaviour with doctest

On 09/21/2010 07:57 AM, luisfe wrote: > I have recently upgraded my "stable" version of sage to 4.5.3 from > 4.51 using > "sage -upgrade" > > I upgraded sage with a user called "Alice" having write and read > access to the sources. > > I have another user "Bob" that can only read the sources and

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SciPy India 2010 Call for Presentations

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:58 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > you meant 2010 in the subject :) Yes, thanks. Jarrod -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

On 09/21/10 09:49 PM, mda_ wrote: On Sep 21, 10:39 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: On 09/21/10 06:12 PM, Niles wrote: I'd just like to comment that, if the wording "nearest Mathematica equivalent" is going to be an essential part of this, then it should be very carefully chosen, and probably imp

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

On Sep 21, 10:39 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > On 09/21/10 06:12 PM, Niles wrote: > > > I'd just like to comment that, if the wording "nearest Mathematica > > equivalent" is going to be an essential part of this, then it should > > be very carefully chosen, and probably implemented through some

[sage-devel] Re: 3 easy to review documentation tickets

Yes, Niles, I saw that. I was helping a new developer-to-be learn development practices and we were practicing on #9936. You beat us to a positive review by about 15 minutes. Dang. ;-) No problem. We should be so lucky as to have to compete for review- able tickets! Thanks for the quick respo

[sage-devel] Re: Should pari.set_real_precision() change the default precision for PARI library functions?

There's a lot of relevant information written by Alex Ghitza and me a couple of years ago in the file gen.pyx. Yes, it is counterintuitive; but not undocumented. John On Sep 17, 10:07 pm, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > Hello, > > I discovered a bug but also strange-but-documented behaviour in the way

[sage-devel] LaCIM Sage Fridays - Announcement

Hi Sage-devel, I remember once, William Stein said something like "More and more Sage Days are organized every year. Soon each day will be a Sage Day!". So, this semester in Montreal at LaCIM, we are going to contribute for 1/7 of a week. Indeed, we are starting *LaCIM Sage Fridays* : http://w

[sage-devel] Sage Day 25.5 Feedback

Hi sage-devel, Here's a quick feedback of the Sage Day 25.5 that was held here at LaCIM in Montreal last September 1st. I recall that, held in sandwich between LaCIM 2010 - 20th aniversary and GASCom conferences, that day was an opportunity for their participants to learn more about Sage. [1] htt

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

On 09/21/10 06:12 PM, Niles wrote: I'd just like to comment that, if the wording "nearest Mathematica equivalent" is going to be an essential part of this, then it should be very carefully chosen, and probably implemented through some Maybe "nearest" is not appropriate. Perhaps "similar" or som

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE_CHECK question

while you're at it, you could check for this problem with the other environment variables sage uses; it seems like SAGE_PICKLE_JAR has similar behavior, for example: http://www.sagemath.org/doc/reference/sage/structure/sage_object.html#sage.structure.sage_object.picklejar On Sep 21, 12:42 pm, Jo

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

I'd just like to comment that, if the wording "nearest Mathematica equivalent" is going to be an essential part of this, then it should be very carefully chosen, and probably implemented through some function, so that typos are avoided. e.g. def doc_equiv_command(sage_command, other_command, syst

[sage-devel] Re: 3 easy to review documentation tickets

#9936 is done :) On Sep 21, 2:42 am, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > We have three documentation tickets that should be easy to review: > > * #9850http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9850, make style of > documentation consistent with sagemath.org > > * #9936http://trac.sagemath.org/sage

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE_CHECK question

On Sep 21, 1:39 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > On 09/21/10 05:48 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > On Sep 20, 5:39 pm, kcrisman  wrote: > >> "SAGE_CHECK - if this is set to yes , then during the build process, > >> run the test suite for each package which has one." > > > I think this should actua

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

Hello !!! > If it was possible to put the equivalent commands in the docstrings, and > then use some code to extract them in a logical way, it would be helpful. > > If it was done done in a very consistent way, then generating a list from > grep and awk would be trivial: I like very long bash lin

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

On 09/21/10 02:50 PM, Nathann Cohen wrote: Hello !!! Nathann and I started a few months ago to make such a list for graph theory: I don't remember if we discussed it already Minh, but what about putting all these informations INSIDE of the docstrings instead ? We could then generate the list

[sage-devel] Re: Improvement of numerical integration routines

On Sep 20, 7:14 am, maldun wrote: > > That's true, but it is important that automated routines do good error > estimation > especially for smooth functions. That is pretty easy if you have a smooth function. So perhaps we need a program to test if a function is smooth :) > But it is the wr

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

> I don't remember if we discussed it already Minh, but what about > putting all these informations INSIDE of the docstrings instead ? We > could then generate the list of corespondances... It would be way > easier to maintain, and users could find the Sage equivalents to the > commands they know t

[sage-devel] Re: Strange behaviour with doctest

Hi Luis! On Sep 21, 1:57 pm, luisfe wrote: > Running the doctest in ell_rational_field with Alice, all doctest > passes and, after running the doctest with Alice once. Bob also > success in running the doctest. So, apparently there is a database that can be read by everybody, but some computatio

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

Hello !!! > Nathann and I started a few months ago to make such a list for graph theory: I don't remember if we discussed it already Minh, but what about putting all these informations INSIDE of the docstrings instead ? We could then generate the list of corespondances... It would be way easier t

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

I think the greatest value of this would be that new users who are used to other systems could find equivalent commands by searching for what they already know. For example, a Mathematica user might search for NDSolve and be led to ode_solver. Perhaps we need a new official docstring title for th

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE_CHECK question

> > What happens if > > > export SAGE_CHECK=no > > > is done?   > > Then the test suite is run. Good, so I'm not insane. - kcrisman -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com F

Re: [sage-devel] Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

You might find this document useful: http://axiom-developer.org/axiom-website/rosetta.pdf On 9/21/2010 5:11 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I was just looking at a post of Minh's, in which he suggested others had suggested adding to docstrings the names of related commands. That seems very sensbi

[sage-devel] Strange behaviour with doctest

Hi, I have recently upgraded my "stable" version of sage to 4.5.3 from 4.51 using "sage -upgrade" I upgraded sage with a user called "Alice" having write and read access to the sources. I have another user "Bob" that can only read the sources and run sage. But Bob has no write permissions. Afte

[sage-devel] Strange behaviour with doctest

Hi, I have recently upgraded my "stable" version of sage to 4.5.3 from 4.51 using "sage -upgrade" I upgraded sage with a user called "Alice" having write and read access to the sources. I have another user "Bob" that can only read the sources and run sage. But Bob has no write permissions. Afte

Re: [sage-devel] Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

Hi David, On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I think at one point, providing a list of equivalent commands in these > packages should be done, to aid people porting code from these packages to > Sage. A start would be to document the nearest equivalent commands in the > ac

[sage-devel] Re: 3 easy to review documentation tickets

I'll review #8825. -Marshall On Sep 21, 1:42 am, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > We have three documentation tickets that should be easy to review: > > * #9850http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9850, make style of > documentation consistent with sagemath.org > > * #9936http://trac.sage

[sage-devel] Re: SciPy India 2010 Call for Presentations

you meant 2010 in the subject :) On Sep 21, 3:14 pm, Jarrod Millman wrote: > == > SciPy 2010 Call for Papers > == > > The second `SciPy India Conference `_ will be held > from December 13th to 18th, 2010 at `IIIT-Hyderabad >

[sage-devel] Suggestion to provide external links in documentation.

I was just looking at a post of Minh's, in which he suggested others had suggested adding to docstrings the names of related commands. That seems very sensbile - just like the "man" pages of a Unix system. How would people feel about providing links to MathWorld and Wikipedia on the docstring

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SAGE_CHECK question

On 09/21/10 05:48 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: On Sep 20, 5:39 pm, kcrisman wrote: "SAGE_CHECK - if this is set to “yes”, then during the build process, run the test suite for each package which has one." I think this should actually say if this is set to any nonempty string, then ... The

[sage-devel] [ANN] SciPy India 2009 Call for Presentations

== SciPy 2010 Call for Papers == The second `SciPy India Conference `_ will be held from December 13th to 18th, 2010 at `IIIT-Hyderabad `_. At this conference, novel applications and breakthroughs made in the