Re: [sage-devel] thesis and talk about Sage

2009-12-11 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have uploaded my BSc Honours thesis [1] to the Sage website. You can > also find my thesis at my website [2]. The Sage publications [3] page > has also been updated accordingly. It took me months to prepare the > document and get

Re: [sage-devel] [Sage 4.3.rc0 released!] problems building R

2009-12-11 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:42:15PM +, John Cremona wrote: > OK, I have just built and started testing 4.3.rc0 on my 32-bit laptop, > so I'll see if the same happens there, That will be with Sage's own > gfortran; the test failures were when I built with the system > fortran. > > I'll report

[sage-devel] Re: thesis and talk about Sage

2009-12-11 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > I will also give a talk about my thesis project on 11th December 2009, > Australian time. I have uploaded some photos [1] taken during my final Honours talk on Sage. Enjoy. [1] http://picasaweb.google.com/nguyenminh2/HonoursFina

Re: [sage-devel] Fwd: Trouble Compiling from source.

2009-12-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Harris Daniels wrote: > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Harris Daniels > Date: Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:58 PM > Subject: Trouble Compiling from source. > To: sage-devel@googlegroups.com > > > Hello, > > Sage told me to email you for help with an

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Old SAGE sources

2009-12-11 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Jason, On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > FYI (Harald?), 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 are in the wrong order on that list. I think that quirk is due to the script that manages the source tarball, including generating MD5 checksums. It looks like the script orders source tarballs acc

Re: [sage-devel] Sage 4.3.rc0 released!

2009-12-11 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 02:38:42PM +0100, Burcin Erocal wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:38:01 +0900 > Dan Drake wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 at 10:18AM +0700, Mike Hansen wrote: > > > Sage 4.3.rc0 is out. Source and binary are available at > > > > Builds fine on Ubuntu 9.10 amd64, b

[sage-devel] Re: Old SAGE sources

2009-12-11 Thread Jason Grout
Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi Victor, > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:03 AM, VictorMiller > wrote: >> Can someone tell me where I can get SAGE sources for old (possibly >> very old) versions? > > See this URL: > > http://www.sagemath.org/src-old/ > FYI (Harald?), 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 are in the wrong o

Re: [sage-devel] ATLAS problems

2009-12-11 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn > wrote: >> I just tracked down a problem down to a Sage ATLAS miscompile on my CPU; >> disabling SSE3 did the trick. How do I proceed to fix it permanently and > > Did you install a binary or build from source. Build

Re: [sage-devel] Old SAGE sources

2009-12-11 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Victor, On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:03 AM, VictorMiller wrote: > Can someone tell me where I can get SAGE sources for old (possibly > very old) versions? See this URL: http://www.sagemath.org/src-old/ -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googleg

[sage-devel] Old SAGE sources

2009-12-11 Thread VictorMiller
Can someone tell me where I can get SAGE sources for old (possibly very old) versions? The reason that I ask is that I've been unable to build SAGE from sources on my 32 bit redhat system since version 4. The error that keeps happening is first the following: *** WARNING: renaming "readline" sinc

Re: [sage-devel] [Sage 4.3.rc0 released!] problems building R

2009-12-11 Thread John Cremona
2009/12/11 Alex Ghitza : > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 09:12:48PM +, John Cremona wrote: > >> Here are the details of the more interesting ones: >> >> File >> "/home/masgaj/local/sage-4.3.rc0/devel/sage/sage/modules/free_module_element.pyx", >> line 242: >>     sage: v = vector([float(23.4), int(2

Re: [sage-devel] ATLAS problems

2009-12-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > I just tracked down a problem down to a Sage ATLAS miscompile on my CPU; > disabling SSE3 did the trick. How do I proceed to fix it permanently and Did you install a binary or build from source. > submit a patch? My /proc/cpuinfo is

Re: [sage-devel] [Sage 4.3.rc0 released!] problems building R

2009-12-11 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 09:12:48PM +, John Cremona wrote: > Here are the details of the more interesting ones: > > File > "/home/masgaj/local/sage-4.3.rc0/devel/sage/sage/modules/free_module_element.pyx", > line 242: > sage: v = vector([float(23.4), int(2), complex(2+7*I), long(1)]); v >

Re: [sage-devel] [Sage 4.3.rc0 released!] problems building R

2009-12-11 Thread John Cremona
Success -- almost. The build went fine with those env variables set. But testall gives this: sage -t "devel/sage/doc/en/constructions/calculus.rst" sage -t "devel/sage/doc/en/bordeaux_2008/nf_introduction.rst" sage -t "devel/sage/sage/modules/vector_double_dense.pyx"

[sage-devel] Feedback from first Sage Education Day

2009-12-11 Thread kcrisman
Dear all, I opened a few tickets based on the feedback from the first Sage Education Day in Cambridge, MA. Some are definitely sage-wishlist, but anyway wanted to point them out. In particular, we really need to fix a few R things (including finally building with the recommended ones, though tha

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Maemo 5

2009-12-11 Thread Georg S. Weber
Welcome to the sage-devel forum! Actually, I think it is rather easy to port Sage to the N900. Due to the "batteries included" concept Sage uses, Sage is very porting-friendly. Maybe end of March, I'll get a N900 for myself. If so, I will certainly play around with it. One issue is, that (at leas

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Maemo 5

2009-12-11 Thread Harald Schilly
Sage was compiled on the G1 android phone earlier this year... so, it is possible ;) h -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://gro

[sage-devel] ATLAS problems

2009-12-11 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
I just tracked down a problem down to a Sage ATLAS miscompile on my CPU; disabling SSE3 did the trick. How do I proceed to fix it permanently and submit a patch? My /proc/cpuinfo is below. The strange thing is that /proc/cpuinfo doesn't contain SSE3, but still ATLAS didn't crash, in fact it wou

[sage-devel] Re: using Sage to investigate the discrete logistic equation

2009-12-11 Thread kcrisman
> > and put your code in there, make a ticket, and a patch.  I think Sage > has been sorely lacking dynamical systems code for a long time. > With the above little bit of infrastructure, other people could add, > e.g., the Mandelbrot set, etc. (I know Tom Boothby has some super fast > cython c

Re: [sage-devel] Questions and proposals for matrices

2009-12-11 Thread Nick Alexander
> (In fact I'd wish for a convention that all matrix factorizations > returned immutable matrices by default, since the factorizations are > cached and one doesn't typically change them before using them.) I think I wrote some (trivial!) Cholesky decomposition code, and not making the factorizat

[sage-devel] Sage on Maemo 5

2009-12-11 Thread mmarco
I plan to purchase a nokia n900, and thought that it would be great to run sage in it. I imagine that porting such a big collection of software that deppends on such a variety of languages and libraries would be extremelly hard, but anyways i thought it would be worth asking to experts: do you thin

Re: [sage-devel] [Sage 4.3.rc0 released!] problems building R

2009-12-11 Thread John Cremona
Thanks -- I have set SAGE_FORTRAN and SAGE_FORTRAN_LIB like this: export SAGE_FORTRAN_LIB=/usr/lib/libgfortran.so.3 export SAGE_FORTRAN=/usr/bin/gfortran and am rebuilding from scratch. I'll post here how I get on. John 2009/12/11 William Stein : > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Tim Joseph D

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.3.rc0 released!

2009-12-11 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: >> William Stein wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Jaap Spieswrote: William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: >> Mike Hansen wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.3.rc0 released!

2009-12-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: > William Stein wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Jaap Spies  wrote: >>> William Stein wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Jaap Spies    wrote: > Mike Hansen wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Sage 4.3.rc0 is out. Source

[sage-devel] Re: using Sage to investigate the discrete logistic equation

2009-12-11 Thread mhampton
Its not much, but I have a little bit of stuff on the interact wiki: http://wiki.sagemath.org/interact/dynsys If I ever teach dynamical systems again I'll generate a lot more. -Marshall On Dec 11, 10:37 am, William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Harald Schilly > > wrote: > >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.3.rc0 released!

2009-12-11 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: >> William Stein wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Jaap Spieswrote: Mike Hansen wrote: > Hello all, > > Sage 4.3.rc0 is out. Source and binary are available at >> [...] >> >>> >>> (1) Ther

Re: [sage-devel] Re: using Sage to investigate the discrete logistic equation

2009-12-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > ... and inspired by that I plotted the logistic fractal for that ;) > http://sagenb.org/pub/1240/ Harald, Any chance you could do the following: (1) cd devel/sage/sage/ (2) mkdir dynamics (3) cd dynamics (4) emacs fractals.py and

[sage-devel] Re: using Sage to investigate the discrete logistic equation

2009-12-11 Thread Harald Schilly
... and inspired by that I plotted the logistic fractal for that ;) http://sagenb.org/pub/1240/ h -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at

Re: [sage-devel] [Sage 4.3.rc0 released!] problems building R

2009-12-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol wrote: >> >> You will want to replace /local/jec/sage-4.3.rc0/local/ >> lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.0.3/libgcc_s.so.1 with your local version >> of libgcc_s.so. Alternatively, you

Re: [sage-devel] [Sage 4.3.rc0 released!] problems building R

2009-12-11 Thread Tim Joseph Dumol
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol wrote: > You will want to replace /local/jec/sage-4.3.rc0/local/ > lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.0.3/libgcc_s.so.1 with your local version > of libgcc_s.so. Alternatively, you can set $SAGE_FORTRAN and > $SAGE_FORTRAN_LIB to your system's fortr

Re: [sage-devel] [Sage 4.3.rc0 released!] problems building R

2009-12-11 Thread Tim Joseph Dumol
You will want to replace /local/jec/sage-4.3.rc0/local/ lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.0.3/libgcc_s.so.1 with your local version of libgcc_s.so. Alternatively, you can set $SAGE_FORTRAN and $SAGE_FORTRAN_LIB to your system's fortran compiler and library. This is caused by the fortran spkg building

[sage-devel] Re: I would like latex(str) to be identity, do you?

2009-12-11 Thread slabbe
> I strongly disagree.  For any object foo in Sage, latex(foo) is > supposed to produce a version of foo that is suitable for typesetting > within a mathematics environment.   For a string, the right thing to > do is use texttt. Ok, I understand. So maybe you have a different and better solution f

[sage-devel] [Sage 4.3.rc0 released!] problems building R

2009-12-11 Thread John Cremona
I reported this before, hoping for some help from a build guru, with no success, so I'll try again. My desktop machine was upgraded over the summer (it's an official university-supported version of Suse: cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.27.37-0.1-pae (ge...@buildhost) (gcc version 4.3.2 [gcc-4_

[sage-devel] Re: new book by Brent-Zimmerman

2009-12-11 Thread Bill Hart
Yes, I've seen it before. Don't use the FFT multiplication routines in it for integer computations that require proven results. He uses a real FFT subject to roundoff error, with a sum of digits test, which is not proven. There is an option to switch to NTT's which are 4 times slower, but these are

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.3.rc0 released!

2009-12-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: > William Stein wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Jaap Spies  wrote: >>> Mike Hansen wrote: Hello all, Sage 4.3.rc0 is out. Source and binary are available at > [...] > >>> >> >> (1) There are no problems (except the one Bu

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE 4.2.1 won't print the last characters of a string if they belong to "SAGE"

2009-12-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Pablo Angulo wrote: >  This is weird. Occassionaly, in the SAGE notebook, version 4.2.1, the > last characters of output after evaluating a cell are supressed. I've > tried all of string.printable: the only characters supressed are "S", > "A", "G", "E" and "_". No

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.3.rc0 released!

2009-12-11 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: >> Mike Hansen wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Sage 4.3.rc0 is out. Source and binary are available at [...] >> > > (1) There are no problems (except the one Burcin posted a fix for > above) on Fedora 11 64-bit. > > (2) You s

[sage-devel] SAGE 4.2.1 won't print the last characters of a string if they belong to "SAGE"

2009-12-11 Thread Pablo Angulo
This is weird. Occassionaly, in the SAGE notebook, version 4.2.1, the last characters of output after evaluating a cell are supressed. I've tried all of string.printable: the only characters supressed are "S", "A", "G", "E" and "_". No kidding. A related issue is that the starting whitespace is

Re: [sage-devel] I would like latex(str) to be identity, do you?

2009-12-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:57 AM, slabbe wrote: > Dear sage-devel, > > Is there a reason why str are wrapped in \texttt for the latex output? > > sage: latex('abcde') > \texttt{abcde} > > Moreover, underscores are changed to \_ : > > sage: latex('t_i=4^i') > \texttt{t\_i=4^i} > > Personally, I don'

[sage-devel] using Sage to investigate the discrete logistic equation

2009-12-11 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, Here's a blog post [1] by Mike Croucher on using Sage to visualize and study the discrete logistic equation. [1] http://www.walkingrandomly.com/?p=2006 -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, s

[sage-devel] I would like latex(str) to be identity, do you?

2009-12-11 Thread slabbe
Dear sage-devel, Is there a reason why str are wrapped in \texttt for the latex output? sage: latex('abcde') \texttt{abcde} Moreover, underscores are changed to \_ : sage: latex('t_i=4^i') \texttt{t\_i=4^i} Personally, I don't like it and I wrote a patch that makes latex behave like identity o

Re: [sage-devel] A potential bug which should have a ticket

2009-12-11 Thread Nathann Cohen
A protected name... I see :-) Thank you !!! Nathann -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel UR

Re: [sage-devel] A potential bug which should have a ticket

2009-12-11 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Nathann, On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:46:31 +0100 Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello everybody !!! > > I just met what I believe is a Sage bug if not a misuse of it from my > behalf, and I have no idea of how to create the corresponding ticket, > symbolics not being my field in any way. besides, I produ

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.3.rc0 released!

2009-12-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: > Mike Hansen wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Sage 4.3.rc0 is out. Source and binary are available at >> >> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mhansen/release/4.3/rc0/sage-4.3.rc0.tar >> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mhansen/release/4.3/rc0/sa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Multiplying inequality by negative number

2009-12-11 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:37:50 -0800 (PST) Simon King wrote: > On 10 Dez., 23:15, William Stein wrote: > [...] > > __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ f := x < y > > > > > f*(-3) > > > ; > > > > __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ -3 y < -3 x > > > > > f*z; > > > > __

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.3.rc0 released!

2009-12-11 Thread Jaap Spies
Mike Hansen wrote: > Hello all, > > Sage 4.3.rc0 is out. Source and binary are available at > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mhansen/release/4.3/rc0/sage-4.3.rc0.tar > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mhansen/release/4.3/rc0/sage-4.3.rc0-sage.math.washington.edu-x86_64-Linux.tar.gz > O

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.3.rc0 released!

2009-12-11 Thread mhampton
On an intel mac running 10.4.11, I got those two, plus: ** File "/Volumes/E/sage-4.3.rc0/devel/sage/sage/rings/ complex_double.pyx", line 2046: sage: z^2 - z + 1 Expected: -4.4408920985e-16 Got: -2.22044604925e-16 - 2.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: multiple versions of optional packages

2009-12-11 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Adam Webb wrote: > Just for information, here are some other multiple packages. I would > guess that the newer versions of glpk and pexpect in experimental are > tests. Others seem to be older versions that were left behind after > promotion of the package. > > st

Re: [sage-devel] Sage 4.3.rc0 released!

2009-12-11 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:38:01 +0900 Dan Drake wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 at 10:18AM +0700, Mike Hansen wrote: > > Sage 4.3.rc0 is out. Source and binary are available at > > Builds fine on Ubuntu 9.10 amd64, but I have a couple doctest > failures, both of which seem like harmless changes t

Re: [sage-devel] run spkg-checks after build?

2009-12-11 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Dan Drake wrote: > Anytime after I build Sage, I can come along and run the doctests with > "make test" or whatever. But what if I built from source and later want > to run all the spkg-checks? Right now, I need to rebuild *everything* > from scratch with SAGE_CHEC

[sage-devel] A potential bug which should have a ticket

2009-12-11 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello everybody !!! I just met what I believe is a Sage bug if not a misuse of it from my behalf, and I have no idea of how to create the corresponding ticket, symbolics not being my field in any way. besides, I produced this bug using the sage version with is installed in sage.math ( recompiling

Re: [sage-devel] Sage 4.3.rc0 released!

2009-12-11 Thread John Cremona
Does this mean that no more patches will be merged except for bug fixes? #6887 just got a positive review.. John 2009/12/11 Dan Drake : > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 at 10:18AM +0700, Mike Hansen wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Sage 4.3.rc0 is out. Source and binary are available at >> >> http://sage.math.wa

[sage-devel] run spkg-checks after build?

2009-12-11 Thread Dan Drake
Anytime after I build Sage, I can come along and run the doctests with "make test" or whatever. But what if I built from source and later want to run all the spkg-checks? Right now, I need to rebuild *everything* from scratch with SAGE_CHECK=yes, but it would be useful to be able to run the spkg-ch