[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Martin > Albrecht wrote: >> On Tuesday 25 August 2009, William Stein wrote: >>> "Please send me a list of items you would like us to fund. What I >>> need is just a sentence or two (at most a >>> paragraph) describing the work ... and a ball

[sage-devel] Re: vtk on Mac

On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Tim Lahey wrote: > > > On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:00 PM, William Stein wrote: > >> >> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Tim Lahey >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> One of the nice things about Framework builds is that they're nice >>> and >>> contained. Everything is in one directory

[sage-devel] Re: Explicit variable of integration

On Aug 25, 2009, at 5:44 PM, kcrisman wrote: > > I know I'm losing this one, but for what it's worth, I think that not > only should (1), (2), and (3) be supported, but that integrate(f) > should do what is obvious where the variable is unambiguous. :) > sage: var('x,y') (x, y) sage: f = -x-y s

[sage-devel] Re: Securing the Sage Notebook - MSc project draft paper

On Aug 25, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Yoav Aner wrote: > > Following my previous posts, I've finished working on the draft MSc > project draft paper. The paper includes two threat models I already > shared previously, one for the Sage open source development process, > and another of the application itsel

[sage-devel] update science

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[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

Hi On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 01:27:31AM +0100, Martin Albrecht wrote: > * Notebook scaling > * Notebook LDAP etc. integration ++! Jan -- .~. /V\ Jan Groenewald /( )\www.aims.ac.za ^^-^^ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an ema

[sage-devel] Re: Review for enhancement adding displayhook to Sage

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[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:11 PM, William Stein wrote: > Please feel free to suggest any and all ideas.    There are different > potential funding sources -- some most care about basic software > engineering, some about scientific research, and some about > undergraduate education applications. An

[sage-devel] Re: Explicit variable of integration

I know I'm losing this one, but for what it's worth, I think that not only should (1), (2), and (3) be supported, but that integrate(f) should do what is obvious where the variable is unambiguous. :) > > > While (1) and (2) syntaxes are encouraged, (3) will > > remain valid until we sort out th

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

Hi Martin, On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Martin Albrecht wrote: > * Someone spending his/her time improving the reference manual + constructions > etc (similar to the tutorial idea) Can you please elaborate on this? Whatever time I could spare, I had devoted it to improving the reference

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

> Please feel free to suggest any and all ideas.There are different > potential funding sources -- some most care about basic software > engineering, some about scientific research, and some about > undergraduate education applications. Well, a few project come to mind which are unlikely to b

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Martin Albrecht wrote: > > On Tuesday 25 August 2009, William Stein wrote: >> "Please send me a list of items you would like us to fund.  What I >> need is just a sentence or two (at most a >> paragraph) describing the work ... and a ballpark estimate of the cost."

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

On Tuesday 25 August 2009, William Stein wrote: > "Please send me a list of items you would like us to fund. What I > need is just a sentence or two (at most a > paragraph) describing the work ... and a ballpark estimate of the cost." * polynomial system solving with noise; cost: a three year p

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 at 11:56AM -0700, William Stein wrote: > Grant proposal season is upon us, and things are in the works. Imagine > somebody said to you: > > "Please send me a list of items you would like us to fund. What I > need is just a sentence or two (at most a paragraph) describing the >

[sage-devel] Re: stein-watkins-ecdb

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 at 06:15AM +1000, Minh Nguyen wrote: > I think we need to have MD5 sums for all packages in the standard, > optional, and experimental repositories, just like there are MD5 sums > for the source and binaries. These MD5 sums can be put in text files > or something. Harald, any wo

[sage-devel] Re: Explicit variable of integration

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > > Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am preparing patches that will resolve >> >> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6465 >> >> and will also move symbolic integration as a sub-class >> of SFunction into new symbolics. >> >> >>

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:02 PM, David Joyner wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Grant proposal season is upon us, and things are in the works. >> Imagine somebody said to you: >> >> "Please send me a list of items you would like us to fund.  What I

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

Statistics, beginning with a class for holding data with descriptions (I think of something based on pytables and hdf) ... methods for subselection, transformation and assignments (at least what's possible in R with data.frames) ... and then more classes with data/object interactions that wrap or

[sage-devel] Re: Explicit variable of integration

Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote: > Hi, > > I am preparing patches that will resolve > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6465 > > and will also move symbolic integration as a sub-class > of SFunction into new symbolics. > > > Currently, Sage allows omitting variable of integration for co

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM, William Stein wrote: > > Hello, > > Grant proposal season is upon us, and things are in the works. > Imagine somebody said to you: > > "Please send me a list of items you would like us to fund.  What I > need is just a sentence or two (at most a > paragraph) descri

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

On Aug 25, 8:56 pm, William Stein wrote: > Grant proposal season is upon us... Implement a cross-browser web-application testing infrastructure based on webdriver http://code.google.com/p/webdriver/ for the notebook, focused on functionality, consistency and concurrency. For example, execute 10

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

On Aug 25, 9:59 pm, Jason Moxham wrote: > On Tuesday 25 August 2009 20:35:48 Juanjo wrote: > > I think that the cheapest solution is the one you suggested: allocate > > the bignums manually and hope that GMP does not reallocate them. This > > can be easily done in ECL, because the actual bignum c

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

On Aug 25, 12:59 pm, Jason Moxham wrote: > GMP will still need to allocate memory for internal needs using its > allocator,   > but it is freed again . If the destination operand has enough memory for the > largest possible output +1 then this should be enough , although I dont know > if we can

[sage-devel] Re: stein-watkins-ecdb

Hi Jan, On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:49 AM, wrote: > > Hi > > Could this be a corrupted file? > I'm pretty sure I installed it with previous versions > of sage. The disk is not full. > > Is there an md5sum somewhere? I have produced an MD5 sum of the Stein-Watkins database package. You can find it

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

On Tuesday 25 August 2009 20:35:48 Juanjo wrote: > On Aug 25, 7:28 pm, Nils Bruin wrote: > > 4) cl_boot() in libecl.so calls mp_set_memory_functions to set the > > memory functions, presumably on the copy of libgmp.a that has been > > included in the build of libecl.so (libecl.so is certainly not

[sage-devel] stein-watkins-ecdb

Hi Could this be a corrupted file? I'm pretty sure I installed it with previous versions of sage. The disk is not full. Is there an md5sum somewhere? regards, Jan 0 r...@muizenberg:/usr/local/src/sage-4.1.1/spkg/optional#sage -i stein-w= atkins-ecdb.spkg=20 (symlink to /srv/local/src/sage=C2=A

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

On Aug 25, 7:28 pm, Nils Bruin wrote: > 4) cl_boot() in libecl.so calls mp_set_memory_functions to set the > memory functions, presumably on the copy of libgmp.a that has been > included in the build of libecl.so (libecl.so is certainly not > advertising any dependencies on libgmp.so when I call

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

Hi On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:56:01AM -0700, William Stein wrote: > Feel free to post in this thread any wishlist ideas along these lines > that you might have. They could make there way into a proposal that > might get funded, and Sage development would consequently benefit > greatly. Expandin

[sage-devel] grant proposal season

Hello, Grant proposal season is upon us, and things are in the works. Imagine somebody said to you: "Please send me a list of items you would like us to fund. What I need is just a sentence or two (at most a paragraph) describing the work ... and a ballpark estimate of the cost." Feel free to

[sage-devel] What's 'top' used for? / What do we need for support requests?

Given my recent problems caused by Sage assuming 'top' existed, I decided to write some code which gives at least some of the information of top (see full usage below). It basically gives data by the system level, and by the process level. drkir...@smudge:[~] $ ./a.out physical_ram_in_MB 8192

[sage-devel] Re: upgrade of ECL and Maxima

r Rishikesh wrote: > After a long time, I can finally compile maxima on my laptop (linux on > ppc g4). > > Rishi Does this mean the reason for you being able to compile these is due to the upgrades? Is the upgraded packages the only thing that prevent this before? Dave --~--~-~--~---

[sage-devel] Re: vtk on Mac

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Ondrej Certik wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tim Lahey wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:00 PM, William Stein wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Tim Lahey wr

[sage-devel] Re: vtk on Mac

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tim Lahey wrote: >> >> >> On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:00 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Tim Lahey >>> wrote: One of the nice things about Framework builds is

[sage-devel] Re: vtk on Mac

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tim Lahey wrote: > > > On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:00 PM, William Stein wrote: > >> >> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Tim Lahey >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> One of the nice things about Framework builds is that they're nice >>> and >>> contained. Everything is in one direct

[sage-devel] Re: vtk on Mac

On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:00 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Tim Lahey > wrote: >> >> >> One of the nice things about Framework builds is that they're nice >> and >> contained. Everything is in one directory, much like Sage. So, all >> the >> python details would

[sage-devel] Re: vtk on Mac

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Tim Lahey wrote: > > > On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:46 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> I'm fine with switching to the framework build for Sage if it "just >> works".  What are the drawbacks?  When I think about the drawbacks now >> the only thing I can think of is "Michae

[sage-devel] Re: vtk on Mac

On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:46 PM, William Stein wrote: > > I'm fine with switching to the framework build for Sage if it "just > works". What are the drawbacks? When I think about the drawbacks now > the only thing I can think of is "Michael Abshoff didn't want to > switch to it". But I can't think

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

On Aug 25, 10:33 am, Martin Albrecht wrote: > Excuse my ignorance, I am sure this was answered a long time ago but I can't > find it right now: why don't you just steal the memory manager back from GMP, > i.e. why does ECL require the GMP memory manager to use its garbage collected > memory? Yes

[sage-devel] Re: vtk on Mac

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > Hi, > > we spent about 6 hours with Prabhu trying to install VTK in Sage on > Mac on the scipy09. We failed and Prabhu suggested to just use the > framework build of python. > > I will try in the second half of September (I am busy till th

[sage-devel] vtk on Mac

Hi, we spent about 6 hours with Prabhu trying to install VTK in Sage on Mac on the scipy09. We failed and Prabhu suggested to just use the framework build of python. I will try in the second half of September (I am busy till then). If that works, I will just try to switch to the framework build

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

> 1) sage is using gmp.so and is linked to that before libecl.so is even > introduced. Thus, presumably sage is fully bound to libecl.so > 2) sage initializes some of its "gmp integer pool" > 3) upon "from sage.libs.ecl import *" I think libecl.so is "dlopen"-ed > by sage (or does that happen befo

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

On Aug 25, 8:15 am, Bill Hart wrote: > I think by "this capability" I mean the capability GMP/MPIR has of > allowing user code to supply a memory manager. > > I mean, if that is global, doesn't it imply that user code can spy on > the memory of other user code, say when it comes up for realloc? >

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

On Aug 25, 3:41 am, Jason Moxham wrote: > can you post me a list , there may be also mpn_* mpf_* __gmp_*  etc , I think > we will have to find ALL of them . The experiment I did indicates that the libecl.so I created did *not* have the property that I wanted: 1) sage is using gmp.so and is lin

[sage-devel] Re: 4.1.1 upgrade on 64bit jaunty fails

Hi Jan, On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > Hi > > Ubuntu jaunty 64bit, sage 4.1 built from source tarball. > > During sage -upgrade (from a mirror) > Should I be getting a brand new tarball to build from? Yes you should. That's an easy way to fix the above failure.

[sage-devel] Re: upgrade of ECL and Maxima

After a long time, I can finally compile maxima on my laptop (linux on ppc g4). Rishi On Aug 24, 3:50 am, Alex Ghitza wrote: > Dear sage-devel, > > As David Kirkby pointed out, we have been working on upgrading ECL to > version 9.8.4 and Maxima to version 5.19.1.  There are several reasons > to

[sage-devel] Re: Upgrade of optional group cohomology spkg

Hi John, On 25 Aug., 18:09, John H Palmieri wrote: > This is a general question, but it applies to this spkg: is it > appropriate for an spkg like this to inject its documentation into the > Sage reference manual?  My impression is that this package has good > documentation, and it would be nice

[sage-devel] Re: Upgrade of optional group cohomology spkg

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:09 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > This is a general question, but it applies to this spkg: is it > appropriate for an spkg like this to inject its documentation into the > Sage reference manual?  My impression is that this package has good > documentation, and it would be

[sage-devel] Re: Sage as a distant solver... Needs documentation/implementation ?

Nathann Cohen wrote: >> You could also use Sage as a library. Any python program can do: >> >> from sage.all import * >> >> and instantly they have the full Sage namespace at their command. I should mention that this would only work with the python included in the Sage install, i.e., sage -py

[sage-devel] Re: Upgrade of optional group cohomology spkg

This is a general question, but it applies to this spkg: is it appropriate for an spkg like this to inject its documentation into the Sage reference manual? My impression is that this package has good documentation, and it would be nice if it were available to the user when it's installed. The r

[sage-devel] Re: Upgrade of optional group cohomology spkg

Dear sage-devel, sorry for posting again on that matter, but the updated spkg at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6750 is still to be reviewed. I would describe the status as follows: - The first version of the spkg was carefully tested and installs on many platforms (thanks to David Jo

[sage-devel] Re: Sage as a distant solver... Needs documentation/implementation ?

Excellent... Once more, I write a lot for nothing... Thank you very much !!! :-) Nathann On Aug 25, 5:15 pm, Jason Grout wrote: > Nathann Cohen wrote: > > Hello everybody > > > An intern in my lab just finished his project, which consisted in both a > > theoretical work and a lot of Java s

[sage-devel] Re: 4.1.1 upgrade on 64bit jaunty fails

Jan Groenewald wrote: > Hi > > Ubuntu jaunty 64bit, sage 4.1 built from source tarball. > > During sage -upgrade (from a mirror) > > > python `which cython` --embed-positions --incref-local-binop > -I/usr/local/src/sage-4.1/devel/sage-main -o sage/finance/time_series.c > sage/finance/time_se

[sage-devel] Re: Sage as a distant solver... Needs documentation/implementation ?

Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello everybody > > An intern in my lab just finished his project, which consisted in both a > theoretical work and a lot of Java source code, meant to simulate > various things... > - He had to work on networks, and so had to define a library with Graphs > to work

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

I think by "this capability" I mean the capability GMP/MPIR has of allowing user code to supply a memory manager. I mean, if that is global, doesn't it imply that user code can spy on the memory of other user code, say when it comes up for realloc? And it is also potentially possible for one pro

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

I mean not to put too fine a point on it but isn't GMP used for authentication on a certain major linux desktop? I presume those guys thought of this, and statically link, or that I am just wrong. Bill. On 25 Aug, 16:15, Bill Hart wrote: > I think by "this capability" I mean the capability GMP

[sage-devel] Securing the Sage Notebook - MSc project draft paper

Following my previous posts, I've finished working on the draft MSc project draft paper. The paper includes two threat models I already shared previously, one for the Sage open source development process, and another of the application itself - focusing on the Sage Notebook. There's some further a

[sage-devel] 4.1.1 upgrade on 64bit jaunty fails

Hi Ubuntu jaunty 64bit, sage 4.1 built from source tarball. During sage -upgrade (from a mirror) python `which cython` --embed-positions --incref-local-binop -I/usr/local/src/sage-4.1/devel/sage-main -o sage/finance/time_series.c sage/finance/time_series.pyx warning: /usr/local/src/sage-4.1

[sage-devel] Re: Sage benchmark

On Aug 25, 1:35 pm, Michael Brickenstein wrote: > Well, if f=(a1 + a2 + a3 + a4 + a5 + a6 + a7)^29 > forms an interesting problem for you: > There is pFastPowerMC in the singular kernel ... Uhm, those benchmarks should show "out of the box" performances, and it's already quite good. Or do you

[sage-devel] Re: log(x) versus ln(x)

Hi William, Sorry, not this time as I'm travelling and only stumbled over this when checking my emails. I hope someone else can do it. Cheers Stan William Stein wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Stan Schymanski > wrote: > > > Hm, since we wanted to g

[sage-devel] Re: Sage benchmark

Well, if f=(a1 + a2 + a3 + a4 + a5 + a6 + a7)^29 forms an interesting problem for you: There is pFastPowerMC in the singular kernel (fast_mult.cc, fast_mult.h), which should do such things very fast. I got tired of doing such things, as I didn't have any application. Michael On 22 Aug., 21:50, Wi

[sage-devel] Re: Sage benchmark

On Tuesday 25 August 2009, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Aug 25, 11:10 am, Fredrik Johansson > > wrote: > > This is wrong; %timeit 'm1 + m2' measures the time evaluating the > > string 'm1 + m2' > > thanks, i was very suspicious anyways ;) Just to point to some Wiki references: http://wiki.sagemat

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

On Tuesday 25 August 2009 09:29:34 Nils Bruin wrote: > On Aug 25, 12:21 am, Nils Bruin wrote: > > On Aug 24, 11:41 pm, Robert Bradshaw > > > > wrote: > > > I think you can still get an -fPIC libgmp.a directly from the same .o   > > > files that the libgmp.so uses. Have you tried just adding that

[sage-devel] Re: Sage benchmark

On Tuesday 25 August 2009, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Aug 25, 11:10 am, Fredrik Johansson > > wrote: > > This is wrong; %timeit 'm1 + m2' measures the time evaluating the > > string 'm1 + m2' > > thanks, i was very suspicious anyways ;) I think this particular benchmark should be compared agains

[sage-devel] Re: Sage benchmark

On Aug 25, 11:10 am, Fredrik Johansson wrote: > This is wrong; %timeit 'm1 + m2' measures the time evaluating the > string 'm1 + m2' thanks, i was very suspicious anyways ;) H --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.c

[sage-devel] Sage as a distant solver... Needs documentation/implementation ?

Hello everybody An intern in my lab just finished his project, which consisted in both a theoretical work and a lot of Java source code, meant to simulate various things... - He had to work on networks, and so had to define a library with Graphs to work with ( already defined in Sage ) - He h

[sage-devel] Re: bibtex function

Hi! IMHO, it would be a good start and a big step forward to collect these entries here: http://wiki.sagemath.org/Publications_using_SAGE Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this gro

[sage-devel] Re: Sage benchmark

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > > On Aug 23, 12:24 am, Simon King wrote: >> >> So, over QQ, MMA is slightly faster, but over finite fields Sage >> clearly wins? That is already something worth pointing out. >> > > I'm not a mma expert, but since they have no system in pla

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

On Aug 25, 12:21 am, Nils Bruin wrote: > On Aug 24, 11:41 pm, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: > > > I think you can still get an -fPIC libgmp.a directly from the same .o   > > files that the libgmp.so uses. Have you tried just adding that flag   > > to mpir's make file? Scratch previous: "./configure"

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

On Aug 24, 11:41 pm, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > I think you can still get an -fPIC libgmp.a directly from the same .o   > files that the libgmp.so uses. Have you tried just adding that flag   > to mpir's make file? yes. You should look at their makefile. The following commands get executed when I

[sage-devel] Re: bibtex function

On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:32 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:31 AM, David Joyner > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:17 PM, wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Here >>> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1348 >>> I suggested a bibtex() function. >>> >>> bibtex(sage) >>> bibtex