Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread наб
On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 01:28:09AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > El 28/11/24 a las 0:07, Holger Levsen escribió: > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 07:17:24PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > Because the fix you have in mind involves bothering a lot of people, > > > or worse, a few people with a lot of w

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Santiago Vila
El 28/11/24 a las 0:07, Holger Levsen escribió: On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 07:17:24PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: Because the fix you have in mind involves bothering a lot of people, or worse, a few people with a lot of work, while the intermediate status proposed by Bill fixes all the undesired ef

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 07:17:24PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > Because the fix you have in mind involves bothering a lot of people, > or worse, a few people with a lot of work, while the intermediate > status proposed by Bill fixes all the undesired effects you > have listed before. but then I w

Re: Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 02:01:10PM +0200, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > On Sat, 2017-01-28 at 23:00 +0100, Lupe Christoph wrote: > > On Saturday, 2017-01-28 at 14:51:19 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 03:04:56PM +0100, Daniel Reichelt wrote: > > > > I highly suspect this stems f

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2017-05-13 17:52, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 03:44:57PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > > a) Has anything changed in the meantime? > > Yes: sbuild stopped repeating the changelog time taking it from the last > entry, and will instead generate a new timestamp based on the curren

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi all, Just following up on this thread. As it's been a while, here's the thread index: https://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2017/01/threads.html#00014 ... but AIUI, the issue is as follows. Naturally, let me know if this a poor or inaccurate summary: * binNMUs do not bump debian/changel

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2017-05-13 21:34, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On 2017-05-13 17:52, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 03:44:57PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > > > a) Has anything changed in the meantime? > > > > Yes: sbuild stopped repeating the changelog time taking it from the last > > entry, and wi

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 10:48:18PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > The above change should now be deployed on most jessie based buildds, > it's only missing on the buildds that are currently down. cool, thank you! -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital signature _

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2017-08-28 12:33, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On 2017-08-28 18:06, Adam Warner wrote: > > On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 22:48 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > On 2017-05-13 21:34, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > > On 2017-05-13 17:52, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > > > > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 03:44:57PM +0100, C

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 05:52:04PM +0200, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 03:44:57PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > > a) Has anything changed in the meantime? > > Yes: sbuild stopped repeating the changelog time taking it from the last > entry, and will instead generate a new timestam

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Adam Warner
On Mon, 2017-08-28 at 12:58 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: [...] > > > These files haven't been built on a build daemon, but instead have > > > been uploaded by the maintainer [1]. This is therefore not a buildd > > > issue, the issue has been fixed there already with the upgrade to > > > stretch. >

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2017-08-28 12:42, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On 2017-08-28 12:33, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > On 2017-08-28 18:06, Adam Warner wrote: > > > On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 22:48 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > > On 2017-05-13 21:34, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > > > On 2017-05-13 17:52, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2017-08-28 18:06, Adam Warner wrote: > On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 22:48 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > On 2017-05-13 21:34, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > On 2017-05-13 17:52, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 03:44:57PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > > > > >  a) Has anything changed i

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Holger Levsen (2017-01-30 14:58:33) > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 02:47:45PM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > > > b.) if thats the case, shall we scan all packages in sid for files which > > > have the same timestamp+filename but different checksums and ask for > > > binNMUs of those packa

Re: Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 01:10:12PM +0100, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > > Would reproducible-bui...@lists.alioth.debian.org be the correct mailing > > list to discuss this? the debian-buildd list or a bug against sbuild might be more appropriate… (the sbuild maintainer reads the above list which has b

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Adam Warner
On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 22:48 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On 2017-05-13 21:34, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > On 2017-05-13 17:52, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 03:44:57PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > > > >  a) Has anything changed in the meantime? > > > > > > Yes: sbuild stopped r

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 03:44:57PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > a) Has anything changed in the meantime? Yes: sbuild stopped repeating the changelog time taking it from the last entry, and will instead generate a new timestamp based on the current time: * For binNMUs, instead of copying the time

Re: Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi Henrik & Holger, sbuild maintainer here. Quoting Holger Levsen (2017-01-30 14:25:51) > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 01:10:12PM +0100, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > > > Would reproducible-bui...@lists.alioth.debian.org be the correct mailing > > > list to discuss this? > > the debian-buildd list or a bu

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2024-11-27 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Bcc: Subject: Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <148578965254.16460.821466934538220169@localhost> On 2017-01-30 16:20, Johannes Schauer wrote: > Hi, > > Quoting Holger Levsen (2017-01-30 14:58:33) > > On Mon,

Re: Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
On Sat, 2017-01-28 at 23:00 +0100, Lupe Christoph wrote: > On Saturday, 2017-01-28 at 14:51:19 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 03:04:56PM +0100, Daniel Reichelt wrote: > > > I highly suspect this stems from packages' rules files supporting > > > reproducible builds. > > > I

Re: Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2024-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 02:47:45PM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > > (the sbuild maintainer reads the above list which has been cc:ed so he > > should be able to comment…) > > You were talking about buildd-tools-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org yes > You forgot to CC that one (I understood that wa

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Santiago Vila
El 27/11/24 a las 18:43, Holger Levsen escribió: On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 06:31:22PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: Replace dh_buildinfo by a script that just print a warning but does not actually generate the file, then ask for binNMU ? Update the description to mention the problem. why pamper i

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 05:43:04PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 06:31:22PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Replace dh_buildinfo by a script that just print a warning but does not > > actually > > generate the file, then ask for binNMU ? > > Update the description to menti

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 06:31:22PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > Replace dh_buildinfo by a script that just print a warning but does not > actually > generate the file, then ask for binNMU ? > Update the description to mention the problem. why pamper it over if we can fix it? -- cheers,

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 05:16:47PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 02:04:03PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > IIRC you said in some other thread that dh-buildinfo is causing you > > issues. If that is the case (= if I'm not misremembering), an upload > > that "defuses" dh

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 02:04:03PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > IIRC you said in some other thread that dh-buildinfo is causing you > issues. If that is the case (= if I'm not misremembering), an upload > that "defuses" dh-buildinfo would immediately solve the issue. > > And then maintainers

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Santiago Vila
[ trimming non-lists from Cc ] Hi. I'll note that from the 300 packages affected, around 150 are maintained by Jonas. Please be nice with maintainers. Making dh-buildinfo a no-op (or "defusing" it as Chris has worded it) seems a natural first step. Next would come lintian and lintian-brush.

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Alexandre Detiste
From a quick survey on 10 packages: - most only need the one line from d/control removed. -> I think that for those making dh-buildinfo a virtual package provided by debhelper would be nice - aflplusplsu needed some more trimming from d/rules. https://salsa.debian.org/pkg-security-team

Re: Accepted debian-multimedia 0.12 (source) into unstable

2024-11-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 10:59:09AM + schrieb Holger Levsen: > > debian-multimedia (0.12) unstable; urgency=medium > >* Task devel: Do not suggest dh-buildinfo (bug #1068809 asking for > > removal) > > [...] > > oh, great! Thank you, Andreas. Greetings from Bug of the Day team to Repro

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Holger Levsen [241127 13:15]: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 12:00:40PM +, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Upload a version of dh_buildinfo that does nothing be output a warning > > 'warning: db_buildinfo is obsolete, please remove from Build-Depends'. > > I certainly wouldn't mind anyone doing this.

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Alexandre Detiste
Maybe the usual ddlist posting on debian-devel + draft of MBF wording; some people are very quick and will fix anything they can on the very same day; and then MBF in a few days. (with severity = ?) I fixed 5 packages just now. Le mer. 27 nov. 2024 à 13:12, Holger Levsen a écrit : > I certainly

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 12:00:40PM +, Bill Allombert wrote: > Upload a version of dh_buildinfo that does nothing be output a warning > 'warning: db_buildinfo is obsolete, please remove from Build-Depends'. I certainly wouldn't mind anyone doing this. (I also doubt many people would see and ac

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 12:11:23PM +0100, Alexandre Detiste wrote: > Don't forget the 311 build-depends ... > $ reverse-depends -l -b dh-buildinfo | wc -l > 311 so /usr/bin/reverse-depends was the tool I was looking for, thank you! I've now installed ubuntu-dev-tools... > These would need a MB

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 12:11:23PM +0100 schrieb Alexandre Detiste: > Don't forget the 311 build-depends ... > > $ reverse-depends -l -b dh-buildinfo | wc -l > 311 I did some UDD query select source, release, build_depends from sources where build_depends like '%dh-buildinfo%' and rel

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 11:04:04AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > Today dh-buildinfo appeared as a candidate for the Bug of the Day[1]. > In bug #1068809 the reporter suggested to "consider deprecating and > removing the package". For me the reasons are perfectly valid and > thus I che

Re: Bug#1068809: Any reason to (Build-)Depend from dh-buildinfo in ecbuild?

2024-11-27 Thread Alexandre Detiste
Don't forget the 311 build-depends ... $ reverse-depends -l -b dh-buildinfo | wc -l 311 These would need a MBF ? Greetings Le mer. 27 nov. 2024 à 11:56, Holger Levsen a écrit : > Hi Andreas, > > YES. :) > > I've NMUed cdbs already last Sunday and dropped all occurances of > dh-buildinfo from

Re: Accepted debian-multimedia 0.12 (source) into unstable

2024-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 10:49:05AM +, Debian FTP Masters wrote: > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:18:55 +0100 > Source: debian-multimedia > [...] > Changes: > debian-multimedia (0.12) unstable; urgency=medium >* Task devel: Do not suggest dh-buildinfo (bug #1068809 asking for removal) > [...]