binary packages to include specs

2000-09-06 Thread Viorel Anghel
I think it would be a good idea that binary packages (built with rpm) to automagically include the spec file (and to place it under /usr/doc/package.../). This is helpfull in 2 situations: - as an inspiration for new package builders - usually, packages doesn't have a README.redhat, they have t

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-18 Thread Thomas Dodd
John Summerfield wrote: > > > John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Just what's in a src.rpm that's so useful that is NOT in the spec file? > > > > Patches? > > You don't need them to see how it was built;-) Well, not unless it was > configured by patching, and I HAVE seen that

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-17 Thread John Summerfield
> > >[summer@emu summer]$ rpm -qif /usr/bin/rpmbuilder > >Name: rpmbuilder Relocations: /usr > >Version : 0.5 Vendor: (none) > >Release : 2mdk Build Date: Sat May 13 08:52:19 > >2000 > >Install date: Tue J

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-17 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, John Summerfield wrote: >> >Mike >> >Just what's in a src.rpm that's so useful that is NOT in the spec file? >> >> Umm... the source code? Depends on what you mean by "useful" I > >Of course, if you want the source get the src.rpm. Yes, but often it is also needed to under

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-17 Thread John Summerfield
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, John Summerfield wrote: > > > >Mike > >Just what's in a src.rpm that's so useful that is NOT in the spec file? > > Umm... the source code? Depends on what you mean by "useful" I Of course, if you want the source get the src.rpm. > > 1) We might be able to build a new

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-17 Thread John Summerfield
> John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Just what's in a src.rpm that's so useful that is NOT in the spec file? > > Patches? You don't need them to see how it was built;-) Well, not unless it was configured by patching, and I HAVE seen that done. Anything else?

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-17 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, John Summerfield wrote: >> 1 in 10 users that look at 1-5 out of the 2000 .spec files >> that would be installed, would then have to get some src.rpm code >> likely to get going anyway. After they've learned what they >> could from the spec file (about 15 seconds worth)

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-17 Thread Alan Shutko
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just what's in a src.rpm that's so useful that is NOT in the spec file? Patches? -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! 86 days, 2 hours, 26 minutes, 25 seconds till we run away. Be security conscious -- National defense is

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-17 Thread John Summerfield
> > Even if the .spec files _were_ installed with every package, the > 1 in 10 users that look at 1-5 out of the 2000 .spec files > that would be installed, would then have to get some src.rpm code > likely to get going anyway. After they've learned what they > could from the spec file (abo

Re: binary packages to include specs + script

2000-08-17 Thread John Summerfield
> > Or better yet, take all the .spec's and put them in one big > > tarball to download, or heck - even an RPM. > > > > rpm -ivh specs-6.2.i386.rpm > very good ideea! > Won't tell you how Henri G built tomcat at Falsehope. ___ Redhat-devel-list

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-17 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Levente Farkas wrote: >> >> >I think it would be a good idea that binary packages (built with rpm) to >> >> >automagically include the spec file (and to place it under >> >> >/usr/doc/package.../). This is helpfull in 2 situations: >> >> > - as an inspiration for new package

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-17 Thread Levente Farkas
"Mike A. Harris" wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, John Summerfield wrote: > > >> >I think it would be a good idea that binary packages (built with rpm) to > >> >automagically include the spec file (and to place it under > >> >/usr/doc/package.../). This is helpfull in 2 situations: > >> > - as an

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-16 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, John Summerfield wrote: >> >I think it would be a good idea that binary packages (built with rpm) to >> >automagically include the spec file (and to place it under >> >/usr/doc/package.../). This is helpfull in 2 situations: >> > - as an inspiration for new package builders >

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-16 Thread John Summerfield
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Viorel Anghel wrote: > > >I think it would be a good idea that binary packages (built with rpm) to > >automagically include the spec file (and to place it under > >/usr/doc/package.../). This is helpfull in 2 situations: > > - as an inspiration for new package builders > >

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-16 Thread Alan Shutko
Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Speaking of RPMs I was wondering how people go about > creating RPMs for complicated packages such as the > kernel You start out by installing the SRPM for a similarly large and complex package. It gives lots of ideas on how to structure things. Using a

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-16 Thread Frank Hale
> > Of course one can use SRPMS packages, but that is > not always handy. > Speaking of RPMs I was wondering how people go about creating RPMs for complicated packages such as the kernel, or mysql or something that installs a load of files. I am pretty new to making RPMs and therefore find

Re: binary packages to include specs - proposal

2000-08-16 Thread Viorel Anghel
Ok, the discussion was interesting, I hope you understand why some people want an easy way to access specs. I understand why other people don't want them. BUT, I have the following ideea: - at packaging, rpm should include in binary package the spec somwhere in the HEADER - that can be queried

Re: binary packages to include specs + script

2000-08-16 Thread Viorel Anghel
On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 07:17:30AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: [...] > The installation of binary application packages is for the > purpose of running software, documenting how to use that > software, and it's configuration files. it seems like you ignore the most important point from my post: s

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-16 Thread Levente Farkas
"Mike A. Harris" wrote: > I think I see the problem more properly now. You want the .spec > file from a particular .src.rpm package, and you don't want to > have to download that entire package. That makes sense. Putting > it in the binary RPMS for your installed programs is NOT the > correct s

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-16 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Levente Farkas wrote: >> >I think it would be a good idea that binary packages (built with rpm) to >> >automagically include the spec file (and to place it under >> >/usr/doc/package.../). This is helpfull in 2 situations: >> > - as an inspiration for new package builders >>

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-16 Thread Levente Farkas
"Mike A. Harris" wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Viorel Anghel wrote: > > >I think it would be a good idea that binary packages (built with rpm) to > >automagically include the spec file (and to place it under > >/usr/doc/package.../). This is helpfull in 2 situations: > > - as an inspiration fo

Re: binary packages to include specs

2000-08-16 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Viorel Anghel wrote: >I think it would be a good idea that binary packages (built with rpm) to >automagically include the spec file (and to place it under >/usr/doc/package.../). This is helpfull in 2 situations: > - as an inspiration for new package builders I disagree. It

binary packages to include specs

2000-08-15 Thread Viorel Anghel
I think it would be a good idea that binary packages (built with rpm) to automagically include the spec file (and to place it under /usr/doc/package.../). This is helpfull in 2 situations: - as an inspiration for new package builders - usually, packages doesn't have a README.redhat, they have th