Re: Certification

2000-04-13 Thread David D.W. Downey
JF Martinez wrote: > This was my point: certification is not intrinsically bad. The > problem is that some manufacturers have made a mockery of it. In fact > we need a certification for certifiers. :-) > > -- Glad you mentioned that. Red Hat has that option as well. You can become a Red Hat

Re: Certification

2000-04-12 Thread David D.W. Downey
hmm, the idea that certs are useless is something that I held myself for quite awhile. Now, looking at where I am now, I would not have gotten the job I have without the certifications I do have. The problem seemed to me that folks relied too heavily on certifications, either college or other.

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Alan Shutko
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually, it's a bachelor's degree. A real doctor's done lots more study > including original research. The use of the tile 'Doctor' for medical folk > is honorary. When they're better qualified (speciallists), they like to be > called 'Mister." A

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread John Summerfield
> -When your child are ill you require the person caring for them had a > certification called doctorate in medicine. Actually, it's a bachelor's degree. A real doctor's done lots more study including original research. The use of the tile 'Doctor' for medical folk is honorary. When they're b

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Alan Shutko
JF Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Be legally liable would not be mandatory: an engineer course who > would graduate people not able to integrate (x**2)dx would quickly > lose all credibility. Then why are engineers licensed? In any case, here's some food for thought: http://www.acm.org

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread JF Martinez
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > -When your child are ill you require the person caring for them had a > > certification called doctorate in medicine. > > This works because there is a very stringent licensing program > enforced by law, and practitioners are held legally liable.

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Alan Shutko
JF Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > -When your child are ill you require the person caring for them had a > certification called doctorate in medicine. This works because there is a very stringent licensing program enforced by law, and practitioners are held legally liable. Current compu

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread JF Martinez
> > > -When you were young I guess your employer asked what certifiaction > > you had except that he called it an engineer degree. > > Actually I was self taught with the addition of a few courses here and > there. I got in by being able to demonstrate my knowledge in an > interview. > > So

RE: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread MCaron
essage- > From: Matt Fahrner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Certification > > > -When you were young I guess your employer asked what certifiaction > > you had except that he calle

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Vilius Puidokas
there are lots of ways to say 'i know this stuff', well, this one more. they are just part of our communication/understanding and we gonna need them until everyone begins practicing telepathy or so.. :) Matt Fahrner wrote: > > > > Nothing personal toward those who are certified, but personal

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Matt Fahrner
> -When you were young I guess your employer asked what certifiaction > you had except that he called it an engineer degree. Actually I was self taught with the addition of a few courses here and there. I got in by being able to demonstrate my knowledge in an interview. This brings up part of m

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Mark Komarinski
I went through the RedHat cert a year ago. This was mostly because my company would pay for it, and it was a cheap vacation (hey, a week in NC, hanging out at RH the week they had their IPO). JF Martinez wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nothing personal toward those who are certified, but personally I

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread JF Martinez
> > > > Nothing personal toward those who are certified, but personally I hate > certifications because: > > a) They cost money that people (I) have better uses for. > b) They cost time that people have better uses for (I know I prefer >to have a life). > c) They aren't necessarily a guara

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Matt Fahrner
Nothing personal toward those who are certified, but personally I hate certifications because: a) They cost money that people (I) have better uses for. b) They cost time that people have better uses for (I know I prefer to have a life). c) They aren't necessarily a guarantee of anything (jus

Re: Certification

2000-04-05 Thread Tony Nugent
On Wed Apr 05 2000 at 15:09, "Murugan Krishnan" wrote: > Leading operating systems has certification programs like, MCP, MCSC, = > Sun Certified, HP Certified etc.=20 > > Is there any certification programs available in the Linux world ?? > > Thanks > > Murugan Krishnan I hold a Red Hat Certi