I fully agree.  I'm currently getting my MCSE only because it helps get the
"foot in the door" so to speak.  However I already know the information I
just need to product money to take the exams.  Same goes for the A+
certification.
On the other hand I know very little about Linux and am going to take a 
class to get the certification.  The certification shows I might know some-
thing at the end while the class for me is a play time where i get fed
knowledge from those who already know it rather than learning it all on
my own the way I have all these years.
I feel classes and certifications are great, however to be sure you really
are getting quality staff I feel it's important that a company include as
part of it's interview process a "demonstrated knowledge" as it were
on a small network to prove you actually know something.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Fahrner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:10 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Certification
> 
> > -When you were young I guess your employer asked what certifiaction
> >  you had except that he called it an engineer degree.
> 
> Actually I was self taught with the addition of a few courses here and
> there. I got in by being able to demonstrate my knowledge in an
> interview.
> 
> This brings up part of my point, which is people can go to college
> and/or take these classes/exams and still come to interviews and be
> unable to to demonstrate knowledge and particularly problem solving
> skills. Yes, these people may have the knowledge but they can't
> necessarily put it to quality use.
> 
> That's not to say that college or these classes aren't useful, they are
> especially to those who's passion is computing. However I could go to
> school for "Baseball" for the next ten years and no one would ever want
> to hire me for a major league baseball team (including myself!). On the
> other hand I know people who weren't very good at computers who really
> put effort into it and became good (but they had passion).
> 
> I guess my real point is, it'll be sad if someone goes to a job
> interview and gets turned down for a lack of credentials when perhaps a
> far less competent certified individual doesn't.
> 
>                       - Matt << File: Card for Matt Fahrner >> 

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