Re: Certification

2000-04-13 Thread David D.W. Downey
JF Martinez wrote: > This was my point: certification is not intrinsically bad. The > problem is that some manufacturers have made a mockery of it. In fact > we need a certification for certifiers. :-) > > -- Glad you mentioned that. Red Hat has that option as well. You c

Re: Certification

2000-04-12 Thread David D.W. Downey
hmm, the idea that certs are useless is something that I held myself for quite awhile. Now, looking at where I am now, I would not have gotten the job I have without the certifications I do have. The problem seemed to me that folks relied too heavily on certifications, either college or other.

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Alan Shutko
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually, it's a bachelor's degree. A real doctor's done lots more study > including original research. The use of the tile 'Doctor' for medical folk > is honorary. When they're better qualified (speciallists), they like to be > called 'Mister." A

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread John Summerfield
> -When your child are ill you require the person caring for them had a > certification called doctorate in medicine. Actually, it's a bachelor's degree. A real doctor's done lots more study including original research. The use of the tile 'Doctor' for medical

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Alan Shutko
JF Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Be legally liable would not be mandatory: an engineer course who > would graduate people not able to integrate (x**2)dx would quickly > lose all credibility. Then why are engineers licensed? In any case, here's some food for thought: http://www.acm.org

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread JF Martinez
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > -When your child are ill you require the person caring for them had a > > certification called doctorate in medicine. > > This works because there is a very stringent licensing program > enforced by law, and practit

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Alan Shutko
JF Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > -When your child are ill you require the person caring for them had a > certification called doctorate in medicine. This works because there is a very stringent licensing program enforced by law, and practitioners are held legally liab

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread JF Martinez
n > interview. > > So you wre a "pure" computer guy from the start? I was referring to classic engineers (ie the guys who build bridges and design TV sets) who are asked were they graduated when applying for their first job be it computer related or not. Graduation (in Un

RE: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread MCaron
I fully agree. I'm currently getting my MCSE only because it helps get the "foot in the door" so to speak. However I already know the information I just need to product money to take the exams. Same goes for the A+ certification. On the other hand I know very little about Linux

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Vilius Puidokas
there are lots of ways to say 'i know this stuff', well, this one more. they are just part of our communication/understanding and we gonna need them until everyone begins practicing telepathy or so.. :) Matt Fahrner wrote: > > > > Nothing personal toward those who are certified, but personal

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Matt Fahrner
> -When you were young I guess your employer asked what certifiaction > you had except that he called it an engineer degree. Actually I was self taught with the addition of a few courses here and there. I got in by being able to demonstrate my knowledge in an interview. This brings up part of m

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Mark Komarinski
I went through the RedHat cert a year ago. This was mostly because my company would pay for it, and it was a cheap vacation (hey, a week in NC, hanging out at RH the week they had their IPO). JF Martinez wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nothing personal toward those who are certified, but personally I

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread JF Martinez
in > this way too. Well, I guess RedHat has to earn money somehow. > Well I am not certified and I consider as most computing certifications have been designed by crooks but: -When your child are ill you require the person caring for them had a certification called doctorate in medicine. -Y

Re: Certification

2000-04-06 Thread Matt Fahrner
ey somehow. - Matt Tony Nugent wrote: > > On Wed Apr 05 2000 at 15:09, "Murugan Krishnan" wrote: > > > Leading operating systems has certification programs like, MCP, MCSC, = > > Sun Certified, HP Certified etc.=20 > > > > Is there an

Re: Certification

2000-04-05 Thread Tony Nugent
On Wed Apr 05 2000 at 15:09, "Murugan Krishnan" wrote: > Leading operating systems has certification programs like, MCP, MCSC, = > Sun Certified, HP Certified etc.=20 > > Is there any certification programs available in the Linux world ?? > > Thanks > >

Certification

2000-04-05 Thread Murugan Krishnan
Hi :   Leading operating systems has certification programs like, MCP, MCSC, Sun Certified, HP Certified etc.   Is there any certification programs available in the Linux world ??   Thanks   Murugan Krishnan 323-660-2450 Ext.4269