Re: [RE-wrenches] Modules over vents

2014-09-24 Thread Dave Click
Flipping through the '04 plumbing code I see a few slopes called out (1/4" per 1' for fixture vents, 1" per 1' for circuit vents, 1/2" per 1' for combination drain/vent...). Fixture vents have a maximum distance of a few feet from fixture trap to vent, but I don't think this prevents you from t

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread Dave Click
William, Just to pile on here, if you're running 4 pairs of low-voltage dc for 400' you may be better off just sticking the inverters right there at the array and making the long run as 240Vac. #2s on each inverter output (22A?) would work, keeping voltage drop to 1.3%. If you choose to combi

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL Inverters & Rapid Shutdown

2014-10-09 Thread Dave Click
There is some pressure on NM specifically to postpone adoption of 690.12 until more products are available, so that may help you out. To my knowledge, micro-inverters don't need to comply with 705.12(D)(6) since there are no suitable products available [90.4]. Equipment does need to be listed,

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL Inverters & Rapid Shutdown

2014-10-09 Thread Dave Click
And... after seeing boB's email I realize that my last sentence is incorrect given the existence of the MNPVHV8-DLTL-3R for exactly this purpose. DKC On 2014/10/9 15:29, Dave Click wrote: There is some pressure on NM specifically to postpone adoption of 690.12 until more product

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire management devices

2014-10-12 Thread Dave Click
I think that someone on this list recommended Solar Scrim a while back to make the conductors no longer readily accessible after they're supported; two options, depending on how picky the QA inspector is. http://www.solarscrim.com/ DKC On 2014/10/12 10:55, Christopher Warfel wrote: I looked

Re: [RE-wrenches] Mounting height

2014-10-23 Thread Dave Click
I believe that I was told in a 2005-ish Xantrex GT training that their minimum clearance (~30") requirement came from the need to be above lawn sprinklers. I can't remember offhand seeing this reason given in any recent manual, so any bottom clearances required in the manual may apply to you ev

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC combiners

2014-10-24 Thread Dave Click
Bill, typically inverters have a max OCPD that can be installed on their output, and these sizes are generally not large enough to accommodate two same-model inverters. And manuals often note that you need to have a dedicated OCPD anyway. At least if I were ever to double-up two inverters on a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Interconnection with Generator

2014-10-28 Thread Dave Click
The inverter to generator ratio is entirely the designer's call and comes into play for large generators (for residential systems as mentioned in earlier replies, it's a bad idea). Interconnecting in spot networks in dense urban areas has a similar issue in that the distribution system can't h

Re: [RE-wrenches] How Is Rapid Shut-Down Not A Farse...

2015-02-05 Thread Dave Click
Mark- 690.56(C) provides the placard you're looking for and 690.56(B) tells the first responder where that 690.12 switch is, right? For 2017 there are a couple of proposals out there. One is trying to better educate that first responder (quickly!) as to what hazards exist. Another is clarify

Re: [RE-wrenches] 300W 72 cell micro inverters

2015-02-10 Thread Dave Click
Regarding the clipping, which the power electronics guys would rather I call "power limiting"... To be clear, "Longer 100% production around noon" (implied in that image that this is somehow beneficial) means "this system could have produced more energy but didn't because the inverter was too

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL Inverters & Rapid Shutdown

2015-03-10 Thread Dave Click
m/Products/Documents/SMA_Rapid_Shutdown.pdf Dave On 2014/10/9 14:00, Randy wrote: Steve, Will there be a retro kit? Thanks Randy Randy Sadewic Cell: 505 570-0137 ra...@positiveenergysolar.com <mailto:ra...@positiveenergysolar.com> http://positiveenergysolar.com/admin/content/upload

Re: [RE-wrenches] How can I calculate ROI when the kWh rate varies through the day?

2015-04-08 Thread Dave Click
SAM is what you're looking for: https://sam.nrel.gov/ I didn't have much luck last time I tried to import TOU utility data, but you can enter your parameters manually if the auto-import doesn't work for you. Dave On 2015/4/8 16:15, Mick Abraham wrote: Hello, Mechanix~ A cli

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire protection for ground mount

2015-04-17 Thread Dave Click
could run that E-W to your inverters/combiner boxes in combination with N-S rolls of scrim). Or of course, look to plethora of excellent wire management options provided by your racking manufacturer. Ha ha ha. Dave On 2015/4/17 7:20, AE Solar wrote: Hey Wrenchers, Does anyone have suggestions f

Re: [RE-wrenches] Working Space

2015-05-13 Thread Dave Click
g with SMA ahead of time in case the AHJ complains about it during the field inspection. Dave On 2015/5/13 15:47, AE Solar wrote: Great thanks. SMA says 36" to the bottom of the disco so will go with that. On Wednesday, May 13, 2015, August Goers <mailto:aug...@luminalt.com>&

Re: [RE-wrenches] ConnectDER

2015-05-26 Thread Dave Click
expensive-- encountering a 60A interconnection on a 150A service makes this worth fighting for, especially on all-in-ones or older equipment that the homeowner isn't ready to replace. Dave On 2015/5/25 19:58, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote: wow, engenius. thanks for post

[RE-wrenches] SB6000U Derating Mode

2015-10-21 Thread Dave Tedeyan
alternative is to just get a whole new inverter. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121 www.taitem.com ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List

Re: [RE-wrenches] SB6000U Derating Mode

2015-10-23 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Thanks guys for the recommendations. -Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121 www.taitem.com On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Jason Szumlanski < ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunnyboy 7700 TL

2015-11-12 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Slightly different issue, but I have recently had multiple SB-TL screens not work correctly on arrival. The knock feature was not working and the backlight would not turn on. Called SMA (or Sunpower) and they are going to send us new screens. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer

Re: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors

2016-01-08 Thread Dave Tedeyan
the shingles when we are done. On a related note, does anyone have a good product to use on a trapezoidal (agricultural) metal roof? Currently we tie ropes to large trees and/or structural members on the opposite side of the roof. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Ta

Re: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors

2016-01-08 Thread Dave Tedeyan
If the customer is very particular, we'll replace the shingle. But most of the time we just put in an aluminum flashing under the shingle. -Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121 www.taitem.co

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rooftop disconnect for multi tracker TLs

2016-01-22 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Solar BOS makes some good disconnects. 4 pole disconnect: F2SK32-1-4XP. Less Expensive than Midnite Solar, but you have to buy directly from Solar BOS and the lead times can be longer. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca

Re: [RE-wrenches] Optimal 200 or 225 Amp Square D MSP All-in-One meter for CT Clamps

2016-02-17 Thread Dave Tedeyan
It is not Square D, but a Milbank U5168-XTL-200 would do the trick. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121 www.taitem.com On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Patrick A. Shortell wrote

Re: [RE-wrenches] AFCI trip on metal roof

2016-03-24 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Recently we have had the AFCI trip in a couple SB-TL-22 inverters. Restarted the inverter, the fault was not still present. It has not tripped in the month since at either site. Maybe an issue with the inverter? Only time will tell. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem

[RE-wrenches] Metal Battery Box

2016-05-31 Thread Dave Tedeyan
? Thanks, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121 www.taitem.com ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metal Battery Box

2016-06-02 Thread Dave Tedeyan
to go with metal, I would plan to use an equipment ground sized for the 175A breaker the is on the battery cables... Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121 www.taitem.com On Wed, Jun 1, 2016

Re: [RE-wrenches] Buried Conductors

2016-06-24 Thread Dave Tedeyan
ove ground conductor length is <5' you can go with the 30 degree C ambient temperature. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121 www.taitem.com On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Peter Pa

Re: [RE-wrenches] Dependable kWh meters

2016-08-22 Thread Dave Tedeyan
here, so I would assume that they would be pretty good. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121 www.taitem.com On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 5:33 PM, wrote: > i have bought from these folks

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-19 Thread Dave Palumbo
Wrenches, I will be presenting a class on "Solar Home Fire Fighter Safety" to our local volunteer fire department this coming weekend. I will tour them around my off grid neighborhood so that we can review various PV, micro-hydro, different inverters and battery systems, various back-up generat

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

2016-09-20 Thread Dave Palumbo
tting off the fuel sources and or throwing disconnect switches as required. Dave Palumbo Independent Power LLC Hyde Park, VT From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of d...@foxfire-energy.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:10 AM To: RE-wrenches Su

[RE-wrenches] SMA Arc-Fault

2016-11-10 Thread Dave Tedeyan
his can be caused by the generator? Has anyone run into a situation like this or something similar? Thanks for your help, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121 www.

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Arc-Fault

2016-11-10 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Daryl, That is what I thought at first. Very rare, but I suppose not impossible that I would have two inverters with bad arc fault detectors. But since we are still getting arc faults after replacing the inverters, I am thinking that it must be something else. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Arc-Fault

2016-11-11 Thread Dave Tedeyan
things you mentioned, although there may be a well pump. They also do have a large water storage tank for heating, but they say that they have not needed to use it yet this year. Then there is also the generator... Thanks for your recommendations. -Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Arc-Fault

2016-11-13 Thread Dave Tedeyan
test for this? eGague unit maybe? Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121 www.taitem.com On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Drake < drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org> wrote: > E

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Arc-Fault

2016-11-18 Thread Dave Tedeyan
conditions for the faults. I know that the inverters have fairly recent firmware (2.62.30R) but SMA is soon to push new firmware to their -22 inverters. I already have the update and can install it next time I am there. It will be interesting to see if new firmware will have any effect. Cheers, Dave

Re: [RE-wrenches] sma -40 monitoring and tech support

2016-12-15 Thread Dave Tedeyan
ebsite so that we can check it before we all waste hours on the phone with tech support and on site tracking down issues that simply cannot be fixed by us. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121

Re: [RE-wrenches] Load Management vs Multiple Inverters and OutBack Radian vs Flexware systems

2016-12-15 Thread Dave Palumbo
ery charging respectively. Thanks for your time, Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 802-371-8678 cell 802-888-4917 home ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenc

Re: [RE-wrenches] Load Management vs Multiple Inverters and OutBack Radian vs Flexware systems

2016-12-15 Thread Dave Palumbo
be upgraded to 8k in the future? I will reach out to you, off wrench list, for more info on your Radian GSLC cabinet methods. Dave Palumbo From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 2:18 PM To

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac EcoGen 6

2016-12-30 Thread Dave Palumbo
. . Even when the EcoGen is disconnected from the off grid house it still starts and runs every time the start switch is set to Auto. How do I clear this problem and get this gen back to normal? Thanks and Happy New Year, Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Bridge microinverters power usage

2017-01-06 Thread Dave Palumbo
production due to snow and shade. . Other ideas? Thanks for the help! Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 802-371-8678 cell 802-888-4917 home ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden corrosion caused catastrophic battery system failure

2017-01-20 Thread Dave Palumbo
he course of the next six years, the corrosion grew, contaminating the entire connection; but was NOT visible externally at all! >> Best regards, Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 802-371-8678 cell 802-888-4917 home

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden corrosion caused catastrophic battery system failure

2017-01-21 Thread Dave Palumbo
ening (very tight - tight as I could without breaking the hardware, lead starts to compress). I've been very happy with doing it this way for 30+ years. Learned much of this from Peter Talmage and Rob Wills here back east as well as from Richard Perez (RIP). Dave From: RE-wrenches [mailto:r

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden corrosion caused catastrophic battery system failure

2017-01-21 Thread Dave Palumbo
connections. Dave From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Walters Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 3:05 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden corrosion caused catastrophic battery system failure HI Dave; Based on the

Re: [RE-wrenches] High End battery

2017-03-27 Thread Dave Palumbo
Mac, I have had good success using Full River AGM's in difficult situations. One system near the Canadian border here in Vermont had no homeowner care for two months in the winter. PV array became covered with snow and they had left their inverter on to run a refrigerator. Of course the batteri

Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack FX Internal Fan Failure

2017-03-27 Thread Dave Palumbo
n, or can I get the internal fan sent out to me so I can repair it myself? . I used to perform internal power board swaps myself 10 or 12 yrs ago. . It's not on warranty so I'd be paying for the parts. Thanks for your time, Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro Off-grid Battery Sizing

2017-04-26 Thread Dave Palumbo
needed during rainy periods. ยท Diesel Gen set charges at 160 Amps, so during the cloudy, snowy winter periods the hydro and gen combined charge at about a C/7 rate. Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 802-371-8678 cell 802-888-4917

Re: [RE-wrenches] Failed L16 with perfect Sp.Gr.

2017-04-27 Thread Dave Palumbo
Not familiar with LG RESU 10 battery. What are they and why do you like them Dave? Thanks, David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 802-371-8678 cell 802-888-4917 home -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re

Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack FX Internal Fan running 24/7

2017-04-30 Thread Dave Palumbo
m the inverter and also resetting the inverter (off/on). OutBack tech support says the control board is the most likely cause of this problem and that I should buy a new board and swap that in. Or, as another option he said I could let the fan continue to run 24/7. Any advice? Thanks,

Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack FX Internal Fan running 24/7

2017-04-30 Thread Dave Palumbo
No From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 10:27 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack FX Internal Fan running 24/7 Hi Dave, Did you replace the temp sensor? Jay Peltz power. On Apr 30

[RE-wrenches] Voltage settings on PVP-4800 inverter

2017-06-22 Thread Dave Tedeyan
e inverter closer to the meter. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 10 Verizon Lane, Lansing, NY 14882 Voice: (607) 930-3481 x6 www.taitem.com ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@l

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback warranty issues

2017-06-28 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Jay, I just called them about an hour ago about a FP2 system with a failed inverter. They said they'd have the new control board sent out today, hopefully they actually will. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 10 Verizon Lane, Lansing, NY 14882

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback warranty issues

2017-06-28 Thread Dave Tedeyan
This one in particular is a warranty repair. They did say that if it was not warranty that I would be better off getting it through a distributor. We've used Ameresco in the past. -Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 10 Verizon Lane, Lansing, NY 14882

Re: [RE-wrenches] AFCI problems with SMA RSB

2017-10-02 Thread Dave Tedeyan
source of this figured out. I had talked to both Sunpower and SMA at the time of this issue, and neither was able to give much help. Cheers, Dave *--* *Dave Tedeyan* *Project Engineer* *Taitem Engineering, PC* 10 Verizon Lane, Lansing, NY 14882 Voice: (607) 930-3481 x6 www.taitem.com On S

Re: [RE-wrenches] sizing up equipment ground per NEC 690.45

2017-10-17 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Hi August, We have understood that exception to apply only to the DC side. The inverter output circuit would fall into typical ground sizing requirements which do state that the EGC should be upsized proportionally to the other conductors that are upsized for a voltage drop. Cheers, Dave

Re: [RE-wrenches] Vent Pipes under an array?

2011-12-15 Thread Dave Click
One solution for plumbing vents: http://www.ipscorp.com/studor Florida's plumbing code allows these AAVs to be used as long as "within each plumbing system, a minimum of one stack vent or vent stack shall extend outdoors to the open air." So you may be able to replace some, but not all, of you

Re: [RE-wrenches] battery venting

2011-12-31 Thread Dave Palumbo
Zephyr vent fans have a small vent hole located on the pvc housing below the damper flap so if/when the fan fails the gasses are still able to escape from the battery box and dissipate into a larger space. David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independent

Re: [RE-wrenches] Electrolytic Caps vs. Thin Film Caps

2012-01-15 Thread Dave Palumbo
Dan, Any worries with inverters located out in 30 below zero temps with either Electrolytic Caps or Film Capacitors? It's very cold here this AM (minus twenty something F) and it makes me wonder about all the inverters, both micro's and string, outside in cold weather areas. We've been told in the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation

2012-01-16 Thread Dave Palumbo
Chris, It would be very helpful if you quote "run hours" rather than "years". For example we have seen: . Inexpensive small generators (generally not worth rebuilding) 300 to 500 hours. These are gasoline models of various brands and Generac LP gas models. 3kW to 10kW in size typi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Electrolytic Caps vs. Thin Film Caps

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Palumbo
We try and install inverters in the basement, or garage, whenever possible but have many outdoors with no problems so far. All Earth Renewables have been installing hundreds of trackers here in Vermont and they all have Sunny Boys mounted on the pole. Best, Dave From: re-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] Electrolytic Caps vs. Thin Film Caps

2012-01-19 Thread Dave Palumbo
this year. If I walk 300 feet away from the house and take a reading in a field 40 feet in elevation below the house, the temperature is 6 to 8 degrees lower there. Dave From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [RE-wrenches] Electrolytic Caps vs. Thin Film Caps

2012-01-19 Thread Dave Palumbo
hursday, January 19, 2012 6:14 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Electrolytic Caps vs. Thin Film Caps Dave, That is really good news. I went through this with Steve Jefferson and SMA recently. They said that -13F was the limit. Steve has posted to this effect on the list, but I cou

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding Separately Derived AC System

2012-01-23 Thread Dave Palumbo
Regarding NEC Article 250.30 does Informational Note #1 mean that a standard (no battery) grid-tied PV system is not a Separately Derived System? I'm primarily interested on the consensus view of Bonding the Neutral (grounded conductor) to Equipment Ground in a 60 Amp Fused Disconnect located b

Re: [RE-wrenches] meter pan?

2012-01-24 Thread Dave Click
P5_1_pg20_TheWire_3 (hat tip to Eric Thomas, who I now see posted about this last April-- I don't see that anyone's commented on it since) Also, note that the tap rules don't apply here, so you're better off calling it something other than "tap" when talking

Re: [RE-wrenches] Tax Credit for New Construction?

2012-02-08 Thread Dave Click
m basing this off the SEIA tax credit guide v1.2 from 2006 (back when it was publicly available), so your mileage may vary. Not actually a tax expert, Dave On 2012/2/7 16:31, Ray Walters wrote: Hi All; I just had a customer ask if he could take the federal solar credit for his PV system on hi

Re: [RE-wrenches] AL vs CU

2012-02-13 Thread Dave Click
If you're running them on a rooftop (i.e. not buried), expansion/contraction is a bigger issue with aluminum than copper-- so plan for that as best you can, like with loops in pull boxes and sweeps rather than LBs. On 2012/2/13 13:39, Exeltech wrote: AL advantage: Weight (especially in long o

Re: [RE-wrenches] Net-Metering Vs. Net-Billing

2012-02-20 Thread Dave Click
You may want to look into some of the IREC reports for the technical information you'd need to help push for net metering. http://www.irecusa.org/irec-programs/publications-reports/ That of course is based on the assumption that you're dealing with rational people down there. That's actually go

Re: [RE-wrenches] AUO ac moudles

2012-02-23 Thread Dave Click
As Abraham Lincoln famously said, "I'll give it my best shot, but I'm no Bill Brooks." A DC ground fault is not impossible on an AC module but it's not the issue that it is on large DC systems where numerous high-voltage parallel strings can feed an array fault. When the unit is listed it's te

Re: [RE-wrenches] Community says farewell to solar pioneer Gottlieb - Brattleboro Reformer

2012-02-24 Thread Dave Palumbo
Dan, Thanks for the news. Richard was a wonderful man. One of my first mentors in the solar business. Dave Palumbo ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://list

Re: [RE-wrenches] Listed battery cable

2012-02-28 Thread Dave Palumbo
William, Try Cobra Wire & Cable (215) 674-8773 www.cobrawire.com Their X-Flex is UL listed Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independentpowerllc.com NABCEP Certified PV Installer Vermont Solar Partner 24 Years Experience, (802) 888-

Re: [RE-wrenches] Need info resource re wind & hail damage

2012-03-09 Thread Dave Click
Allen, UL 1703 simulates a 1" hailstone @ 50mph by dropping a 1.18lb 2" diameter steel ball 51" onto the glass "at any point considered most vulnerable." IEC 61215 actually uses a 1" ice ball (what a weird thing to use when simulating hail, right?) and shoots it at 11 points on the module at 50

Re: [RE-wrenches] MC4 Y Connectors

2012-03-09 Thread Dave Click
My take: if you have no more than two strings feeding your inverter, this is NEC compliant. If you have a ten-string array and you're planning to use a 5-fuse combiner, you're probably out of luck. Reason 1: For a typical 240W-ish module your Isc is around 8.5A. 8.5 x 1.56 = 13.3A. If you have

Re: [RE-wrenches] solar accumulation panel

2012-03-12 Thread Dave Click
Nick, I don't see that name (or an alternate term) in the report on proposals (do a search for "120%" or "4-375a"). http://www.nfpa.org/Assets/files/AboutTheCodes/70/70_A2013_NEC-P04_ROPballot.pdf On 2012/3/9 16:45, Nick Vida wrote: Hello, I was wondering if any of you wise wrenches know if 's

Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Credits

2012-04-06 Thread Dave Palumbo
Wrenches, I am trying to chase down NABCEP credit hours from the Feb 28/29th ALT E Dealer Conference in Waterville Valley, NH. The trainers said they would send the certificates out to folks when they got back to their offices. 4 weeks later and no certificates (needed for recertification for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Module Eff

2012-04-06 Thread Dave Click
You can calculate this yourself pretty easily for the many modules that don't explicitly state their efficiency (or for those that just state the cell efficiency). Get the total *metric* length and width of the module from the cut sheet. Multiply to get your area in square meters. 235W / (1.63

Re: [RE-wrenches] Combining Solectria PVI 2500 with SB3000

2012-04-19 Thread Dave Palumbo
Wrenches, We have an installation in place since 2008 working well with a Solectria PVI 2500 feeding a supply side grid connection. Homeowner wants us to double the system size now. I can buy a SB3000 inverter for $ 300 less than the Solectria PVI 2500 (with upcharge for 10 yr warranty) and I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Combining Solectria PVI 2500 with SB3000

2012-04-19 Thread Dave Click
e a good fit, and it would replace your fused disconnect. It only has space for two 2P breakers (no main). On 2012/4/19 12:29, Dave Palumbo wrote: Wrenches, We have an installation in place since 2008 working well with a Solectria PVI 2500 feeding a supply side grid connection. Homeowner wants

Re: [RE-wrenches] Combining Solectria PVI 2500 with SB3000

2012-04-19 Thread Dave Palumbo
Dave, Very good. Thanks for the pick up on the 650A Service Disconnect issue. Dave Palumbo -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Dave Click Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:39 PM To: re-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World 2.0 frames

2012-05-04 Thread Dave Palumbo
All, We are considering using Solar World 2.0 framed modules. Not having put hands on these yet, we are looking for testimonials and opinions on these "top mount only" modules. And while we're at, it what about Solar World's 2.5's with the bottom mount flange? David Palumbo Independent P

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fed tax credit?

2012-05-17 Thread Dave Click
It's my understanding that shingles would not be included, just as you can't build a house and then claim that it's a 5kW PV rack, for an $80,000 tax credit. The act of installing PV doesn't necessarily require that the shingles be replaced. Electrical panel work may be OK if, say, you're putt

Re: [RE-wrenches] Line side taps in Hawai'i

2012-05-21 Thread Dave Click
Square D probably has a similar "solar-ready" panel; I remember seeing some monster (4' tall? they were big) Cutler Hammer panelboards at SPI 2010 that had it too. On my house I have a Square D RC2M200S which has simply a 200A main plus a 2P 50A breaker (perfect for PV). This is a much smaller

Re: [RE-wrenches] Finding ground faults

2012-05-23 Thread Dave Click
Here's the Paul Mync / John Berdner article from SolarPro 2.5: http://solarprofessional.com/article/?file=SP2_5_pg60_Mync -David Brearley... er... Click On 2012/5/22 22:36, Bob Clark wrote: Wrenches: Sorry to bring up this situation again, but I could not find a previous discussion thread that

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Attic Fans

2012-06-08 Thread Dave Click
We did a paper on this back in 2000 that folks may find interesting. A bit outdated- two 10W (thin film) fans were used for a 1000 sf home. http://www.fsec.ucf.edu/en/publications/html/FSEC-GP-171-00/index.htm Conclusion: "Comparing periods with similar weather conditions, the test revealed tha

Re: [RE-wrenches] Array mismatch question

2012-06-26 Thread Dave Click
the modules so your higher-voltage modules are on the 10-module strings... fun, right? Dave On 2012/6/26 11:38, Allan Sindelar wrote: Wrenches, We have been hired to serve as independent consultants on a large Sunny Boy/Sunny Island off grid project. The array and the battery bank (of unknown

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Experience

2012-06-29 Thread Dave Palumbo
ifically RE-B's either L-16, or T-105. And have used Trojan Industrial IND 13-6V on one system with good success with another set ordered. Dave From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of SunHarvest Sent: Friday, June

Re: [RE-wrenches] L feet no flashing in shingle roof

2012-07-02 Thread Dave Click
I always thought that installing lag screws was tough enough with pilot holes- I should hit the gym. I'm not a structural PE, but I think that not drilling pilot holes violates the American Wood Council's National Design Specs and therefore violates the IBC too. I would imagine that you'd be mu

Re: [RE-wrenches] Voltage settings for AGM's in grid tie with back up

2012-07-16 Thread Dave Palumbo
our target). Is this programmable automatically with this OutBack setup or do we need to trigger a bulk charge manually? . If so. What is the easiest, and or best way, to trigger the bulk charge? Thanks, Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde

Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

2012-07-19 Thread Dave Click
As a note for tile roofs: the tile keeps most of the water on top of it but it's not the actual sealed layer. The underlayment is the true waterproofing layer, so be sure you seal the penetration through the underlayment as well as the hole you cut in the tile. On 2012/7/18 23:42, Parrish, Pe

Re: [RE-wrenches] mounting hardware and U.L.

2012-07-20 Thread Dave Click
http://solarabcs.org/about/publications/reports/module-grounding/index.html (see the Issues & Recommendations report) Phil is right that UL 2703 isn't finalized yet so it's not actually a requirement. However, I imagine that module installation manuals and UL 1703 will both refer to 2703 soon,

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC GEC Sizing Issue - Water Main GE

2012-07-20 Thread Dave Click
or" applies to the largest conductor in the PV system (likely your homerun DC). Dave On 2012/7/20 15:06, Garrison Riegel wrote: Wrenches, I have GEC sizing issue and would greatly appreciate any advice you can share. We have a small commercial grid-tie system installing on a facility with

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC GEC Sizing Issue - Water Main GE

2012-07-25 Thread Dave Click
(A)(1). So if you're going to building steel or a water pipe, 250.166(B) is applicable and so 8 AWG Cu should be acceptable for this connection. Hope that clarifies! DKC On 2012/7/23 13:27, Garrison Riegel wrote: Hi Dave (and all) Thank you for your response. I appreciate your pers

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase M210-84-208-S12 Inverters Available?

2012-08-13 Thread Dave Click
Enphase already positive-grounds the module: http://enphase.com/support/installation-wiring/ Q: The Enphase Microinverter manual states that the device is positively grounded. Don't most PV modules have negative grounds? Is this a problem for Enphase? A: Enphase made the decision to positively

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering a whole house Outback system

2012-08-20 Thread Dave Palumbo
Dave, Sounds like a great solution. We have an OB Radian net-metered PV with battery back-up coming up this fall. Where do we source an "Elkor" meter? Thanks, Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independentpowerllc.co

Re: [RE-wrenches] Up for a 1-Line Riddle?

2012-08-30 Thread Dave Click
I've seen that one a lot, too. And not to quibble, but the 1-line depicts this correctly (no inline fuse shown in the inverter DC disconnect box), though there should be a note making this more explicit. Speaking of sunny days turning off the system, how about the 3 30A inverter breakers' comb

Re: [RE-wrenches] Up for a 1-Line Riddle?

2012-08-30 Thread Dave Click
ore simply: 24 A per inverter x 1.73 = 41.5 A However, no one reviewing a single-line should have to guess about the service type On Aug 30, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Dave Click wrote: I've seen that one a lot, too. And not to quibble, but the 1-line depicts this correctly (no inline fuse shown

Re: [RE-wrenches] Short Circuit Cell Damage

2012-09-18 Thread Dave Click
Short-circuiting should be OK for crystalline cells, but some thin film manufacturers ask you not to do this. On the jumper-cutting, I agree with the others that you probably shouldn't create arcs just for fun! On 2012/9/17 23:50, Mark Frye wrote: Wrenches, True or False: In a nominal sort of

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120% rule applying to conductors

2012-09-28 Thread Dave Click
Mr. Brooks had an email on this topic on 5/8, 12:58pm ET. NEC officially says that the conductor needs to be upsized but the 2014 will fix it because that is dumb. I've copied some of Bill's email below. ** The key distinction was used in my proposal to the 2014 NEC that removed the statement

[RE-wrenches] BIPV Options

2012-10-02 Thread Dave Click
Good input on the Atlantis options-- does anyone have experience with the www.bipvinc.com or www.lumetasolar.com products? On 2012/10/2 13:06, Robert Evans wrote: I installed the BOS for an Atlantis Sunslates system back in 2003-04, and commissioned the system. Based on my experience I couldn't

Re: [RE-wrenches] BIPV Options

2012-10-02 Thread Dave Click
dirty, dirty dirty Holt E. Kelly Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products 500 Jewell Dr. Waco TX. 76712 254-751-9111 www.holteksolar.com - Original Message - From: "Dave Click" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 1:22 PM Subject: [RE-wrenches] BIPV Options Good input on the Atla

Re: [RE-wrenches] SunnyIsland - was AC coupling and Outback inverters

2012-10-05 Thread Dave Click
Check out the new SMA Smartformer, though I'm not sure whether it's actually shipping yet. I'm thinking about this for my house eventually (SB5000US). http://www.sma-america.com/en_US/products/off-grid-and-back-up-solutions/smartformer-for-sunny-island.html Alternatively, the new SMA TL invert

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid non-inverter battery charger recommendations?

2012-10-15 Thread Dave Palumbo
flammable things anywhere close to it. I had a couple of Todds spark off a number of years ago. Caused some excitement. -Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independentpowerllc.com NABCEP Certified PV Installer Vermont Solar Partner 24 Years

Re: [RE-wrenches] Utility inverter rating

2012-10-18 Thread Dave Click
Erika, I think the takeaway here is that the Island only has that surge power capacity on the protected load side- you wouldn't see this surge on the utility side. SMA should be able to provide this sort of documentation for you. On 2012/10/18 9:38, Erika Weliczko wrote: Greetings all. I rec

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