Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro system

2019-07-11 Thread chris
toddc...@finestplanet.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 8:22 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro system isn't there a formula like head in feet X gpm divided by 10 = approximate wattage? todd On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:10pm, "Jerry Shafer" mailto:jerrysgarag...@g

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro system

2019-07-11 Thread Alex MeVay
Hi Mac, We worked for a while building controls for one company in Oz doing small hydro, and I can share some observations, and things I learned coming from a solar background: > My first question is can you run a power system from hydro direct in the 10 > -100 kW range? Yes, I believe this is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro system

2019-07-11 Thread Darryl Thayer
Again from little experience, but a diversion valve of the size of the Penstock placed as far ahead of the turbine, (a long penstock reduces the turbulence, turbulence reduces the turbines power.) Tnhis selector valve can be AC or DC motorized, Belemo and other similar motors, they open slowly, dr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro system

2019-07-10 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi i have only worked on two so disregard if i am off track. Bob Gudgel of Midnite solar helped me with ideas. It seemed to me the water keeps flowing and if no load the turbine went fastest. As the load increased the turbine slowed down, but generated more power until the turbine was overload

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro system

2019-07-10 Thread Michael Morningstar
Mac, I work with hydro power plants from 50W to 100kw. AC direct, DC, AC to DC, stand alone and utility connected, in all sorts of configurations. Report back with the turbine manufacturer and more specifics so that I may better advise you. There are many routes one can take. Clogging and sedi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro system

2019-07-10 Thread Mac Lewis
I don't really want to mess with changing the hydro, I'm more interested in alleviating the manual transfer between power systems. I'm planning on putting a power quality recorder/oscilloscope so that I understand what type of power we are working with. Its semi-large (from my perspective) becaus

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro system

2019-07-10 Thread toddcory
isn't there a formula like head in feet X gpm divided by 10 = approximate wattage? todd On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:10pm, "Jerry Shafer" said: You need head (pressure) and GPM, clean degree free, no silt, a catch basin to stall the water, big pipe long run, try to keep the rollerco

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro system

2019-07-10 Thread Jerry Shafer
You need head (pressure) and GPM, clean degree free, no silt, a catch basin to stall the water, big pipe long run, try to keep the rollercoasters out, (rises), and no 90's, that's just to start. Low head waterwheels can produce lots of power to but you need a river of water. Jerry _

[RE-wrenches] Hydro system

2019-07-10 Thread Mac Lewis
Hi Wrenches, I've got a site visit for a largish ranch hydro site tomorrow. I am relying on info from someone who doesn't know all of the nitty gritty details about how the power system works (like size) but I want to try to educate myself a bit. I know a bit about hydro but I'm no expert. As i

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro Off-grid Battery Sizing

2017-04-26 Thread Dave Palumbo
home From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sherald Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 7:21 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Hydro Off-grid Battery Sizing Good morning! I went to bed wondering if the off-grid battery bank sizi

[RE-wrenches] Hydro Off-grid Battery Sizing

2017-04-26 Thread Matt Sherald
Good morning! I went to bed wondering if the off-grid battery bank sizing rules that I use for PV systems hold true for hydro-based systems. I woke up and I was still mulling this over. My battery bank sizing standard is to use the method outlined in the SEI Photovoltaics Manual. I would presum

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro Diversion Controls

2012-11-22 Thread David Katz
might not need control at all if it is a few hundred amp hours of flooded battery. David Katz. Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint! - Reply message - From: "William Miller" To: "RE-wrenches" Subject: [RE-wrenches] Hydro Diversion Controls Dat

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro Diversion Controls

2012-11-22 Thread larry
technology as low as 0.1 amperes.Larry CrutcherStarlight Solar Power Systems Original Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro Diversion Controls From: jay peltz <j...@asis.com> Date: Thu, November 22, 2012 12:22 pm To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Hi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro Diversion Controls

2012-11-22 Thread jay peltz
Hi William If the hydro is only 2 amps, I would argue that you don't diversion at all. The float current expect for a really small battery bank is higher than that. So unless you want/need it for some other reason, I would not install one. jay peltz power On Nov 22, 2012, at 11:18 AM, William

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro Diversion Controls

2012-11-22 Thread William Miller
David: Interesting idea. The added benefit is if the relay gets stuck, it won't destroy the battery bank. The diversion load must equal or exceed the output of the hydro, correct? The load we have will draw 38 amps at 24 vdc, the hydro will put out 2 amps. Sounds like I have enough headro

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hydro Diversion Controls

2012-11-21 Thread David Katz
David Katz Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint! - Reply message - From: "William Miller" To: "RE-wrenches" Subject: [RE-wrenches] Hydro Diversion Controls Date: Wed, Nov 21, 2012 12:34 pm Friends: I have just two micro-hydro clients, too few

[RE-wrenches] Hydro Diversion Controls

2012-11-21 Thread William Miller
Friends: I have just two micro-hydro clients, too few to have dedicated as much time as I should to educate myself. I appreciate any help on these questions: I need to rework a diversion control system. 1. I am going to use a mercury wetted relay driven by the Aux relay in an FX inverter se

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro

2009-09-23 Thread jay peltz
Hi Larry, You've got a few options, either a few smaller turbines or one large unit; Derik at Hipower really knows his stuff with the intertie hydros. For the smaller units (which might be cheaper) contact Derik at Hipower hydro 707-923-3507 http://hipowerhydro.com/ for the larger unit, cont

[RE-wrenches] hydro

2009-09-23 Thread Larry Brown
Wrenches, Any recommendations for a small scale hydro manufacturer for a grid- tied system with about 80 feet of head and 1200 gallon per minute flow and the dam already in place. The load at this Center is to high for an affordable battery bank and the grid is close at hand, they alread

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-11 Thread Drake Chamberlin
At 02:12 PM 11/10/2008, you wrote: It also helps to run the water coming from the bottom of the tank (to your coil) through some baseboard so once the tank is heated to the bottom it starts dumping heat as more is gathered. That sounds like an excellent idea. An aquastat controlled valve or p

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-10 Thread Todd Cory
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drake Chamberlin Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 2:08 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils At 11:56 AM 11/6/2008, you wrote: is a thermo siphon feed as done in days of old. This is self regulating and worry

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-10 Thread Conrad Geyser
-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils At 11:56 AM 11/6/2008, you wrote: >is a thermo siphon feed as done in days of old. This is self >regulating and worry free Why is the system worry free? Don't the coils thermo siphon into a tank that could overheat? Thanks Drake Chambe

[RE-wrenches] Hydro "coils"

2008-11-10 Thread Nick Houser
I have successfully used homebrewed water heater loops through woodstove fire boxes for many years. Doesn't HAVE to be a "coil" but coiling does save space. The latest one was what you might call serpentine using S.S> elbows and nipples (assembled then welded) 2 inch. Works fine. The only tim

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-09 Thread Drake Chamberlin
At 11:56 AM 11/6/2008, you wrote: is a thermo siphon feed as done in days of old. This is self regulating and worry free Why is the system worry free? Don't the coils thermo siphon into a tank that could overheat? Thanks Drake Chamberlin Athens Electric OH License 44810 CO License 3773 7

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-06 Thread Best Power Mario
using the fixed 110F on/90F off, they are cheap. Hope this helps Mario Best Power Intl. - Original Message - From: Travis Creswell To: 'RE-wrenches' Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils Assuming you’re talking about the

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-06 Thread Conrad Geyser
: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils Assuming you’re talking about the units that actually installed in the fire box; I’ve actually disconnected a few over the years because they overheated the water to point of regularly blowing the pop off valve of the domestic

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-06 Thread Ian Woofenden
We've been using a coil inside our wood stove for many years and it works well. Our current one was an option with the stove. It's a single 1-inch stainless loop, which we thermosyphon to our solar tank, using potable water through the loop. The only issue we have had is the interaction of t

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-06 Thread Todd Cory
Thanks Ben... I downloaded it yesterday but have not read it yet. Todd Benjamin Root wrote: Hi Todd, See the current issue of/ Home Power/ for article on Heat Exchangers (by Chuck Marken). I know that at least one of the manufacturers mentioned in/ Access/ has a unit specifically designed f

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-06 Thread Benjamin Root
Hi Todd, See the current issue of Home Power for article on Heat Exchangers (by Chuck Marken). I know that at least one of the manufacturers mentioned in Access has a unit specifically designed for wood stoves. Ben I have a client that is wanting to add a water loop in their wood stove. D

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-06 Thread Travis Creswell
ices _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:40 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils Todd, Just a friendly point - I know you probably know---be real careful doing that. That use to be an optio

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-06 Thread holtek
9111 254-228-9621 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.holteksolar.com - Original Message - From: Todd Cory To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:57 PM Subject: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils I have a client that is wanting to add a water loop in t

Re: [RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-06 Thread robert ellison
Todd, I have a customer who just added some to his cook stove. Don't know the brand but I will check with him to see what they were and where they came from. Later, Bob On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Todd Cory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I have a client that is wanting to add a water loop in t

[RE-wrenches] hydro coils

2008-11-05 Thread Todd Cory
I have a client that is wanting to add a water loop in their wood stove. Does anyone know if the old SS hydro coils are still made? Todd -- Todd Cory KE6SXS [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Mt. Shasta Energy Services License C-10 #811428 P.O. Box 689 Mt. Sh