Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-11-19 Thread AE Solar
wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > ] *On Behalf Of * > b...@midnitesolar.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2014 11:46 AM > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder > > > > > William, > There is th

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-09 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Of *b...@midnitesolar.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2014 11:46 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder William, There is this DLTL disco with 8 poles. I understand that the "street price" is very possible less than the $579 4-pole you cited earli

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-09 Thread William Miller
s-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of b...@midnitesolar.com Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 11:46 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder William, There is this DLTL disco with 8 poles. I understand that the "street price" is very possible le

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-08 Thread Brian Mehalic
tp://www.millersolar.com/> > 805-438-5600 > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > ] *On Behalf Of *All Solar, > Inc. > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:28 PM > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter wi

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-08 Thread Darren Anderson
Most DC rated disconnects are expensive and bulky, but I've had good experiences with these ones from IMO: http://www.imopc.com/products/1170081 A 4-pole (2 string) 800VDC 16A IP65 PV manual disconnect for about a hundred bucks, that's pretty hard to beat. _ Darren Anders

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-08 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Lic 773985 millersolar.com <http://www.millersolar.com/> 805-438-5600 *From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *All Solar, Inc. *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:28 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder U

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-08 Thread Jerry Shafer
Re just completed a project for a group and they required a remote disconnect on the roof, it is a combiner box with a contactor disconnect that is roof mounted and 100 feet away, next to the inverters we have the push button, I will get the brand and get it to you. Jerry On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread William Miller
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder William, Just to pile on here, if you're running 4 pairs of low-voltage dc for 400' you may be better off just sticking the inverters right there at the array and making the long run as 240Vac. #

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread William Miller
sts.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of All Solar, Inc. Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:28 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder Use the Midnite SOB series. They have a 4 pole Jeremy Rodriguez, President __

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread Dave Click
-3476 | Cell 443-277-6286 *From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *William Miller *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:01 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder Friends: If only an SMA would work here. But DC vo

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread All Solar, Inc.
wrenches.org] On >> Behalf Of William Miller >> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 8:28 AM >> To: RE-wrenches >> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder >> >> August: >> >> I have been told I can't combine upstream of the inver

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread Isaac Opalinsky
: Isaac Opalinsky | Technical Trainer | SunPower Corporation Desk 443-569-3476 | Cell 443-277-6286 From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:01 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread william
Ryan: Thanks but the maximum is 3 circuits and we have 4. william From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Mayfield Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 11:40 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread William Miller
ectria inverters so I don’t know > much about them. > > Best, > > August > Luminalt > > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On > Behalf Of William Miller > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 8:28 AM > To: RE-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread Ryan Mayfield
-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of August Goers Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:30 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder William, I see now from the separate post from Michael Kelly of Solectria that indeed you cannot combine your two strings with this inverter. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread August Goers
-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder August: I have been told I can't combine upstream of the inverter. William Miller Solar On Oct 7, 2014, at 8:03 AM, August Goers wrote: William, We have bumped into similar dilemmas when needing remote DC discon

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread Michael Kelly
if it still is. Wm [Gradient Cap_mini] Lic 773985 millersolar.com<http://www.millersolar.com/> 805-438-5600 From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Michael Kelly Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 3:10 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inv

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread William Miller
August: I have been told I can't combine upstream of the inverter. William Miller Solar > On Oct 7, 2014, at 8:03 AM, August Goers wrote: > > William, > > We have bumped into similar dilemmas when needing remote DC disconnects with > TL inverters. I believe the Solectria you are using has

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-07 Thread August Goers
Behalf Of *William Miller *Sent:* Monday, October 06, 2014 9:01 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder Friends: If only an SMA would work here. But DC volts too low. We are using Solectria PVI5200TLS. We do not use PV wire. We transition to THWN-2 in

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread William Miller
Friends: If only an SMA would work here. But DC volts too low. We are using Solectria PVI5200TLS. We do not use PV wire. We transition to THWN-2 in conduit immediately. William Miller Solar > On Oct 6, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Chris Mason wrote: > > I presumed SMA TL series. > >> On Mon, Oct 6

[RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread frenergy
nly. Bill - Original Message - From: William Miller To: RE-wrenches Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 11:40 AM Subject: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder Wrenches: We are getting up to speed on using transformer-less inverters. I have advocated long for the

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread Chris Mason
I presumed SMA TL series. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Jerry Shafer wrote: > As i read the thread you say TL which TL SMA, AE ect. They have defferent > dc input designs > On Oct 6, 2014 12:21 PM, "jay peltz" wrote: > >> I do believe the outback and midnite combiners have a lock hole to >>

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread Jerry Shafer
As i read the thread you say TL which TL SMA, AE ect. They have defferent dc input designs On Oct 6, 2014 12:21 PM, "jay peltz" wrote: > I do believe the outback and midnite combiners have a lock hole to prevent > exactly your concern. > unauthorized access. > > jay > > peltz power > On Oct 6, 20

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread Chris Mason
I don't understand the reference to Arc-Flash. Arc-flash ratings are dependent on high current potential, typically above 700 amp short circuit current. I don't think you can get an arc flash from a solar system as solar is inherently current limited. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:40 PM, William Miller

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread Chris Mason
lar.com <http://www.millersolar.com/> > 805-438-5600 > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On > Behalf Of *Michael Kelly > *Sent:* Monday, October 06, 2014 3:10 PM > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverte

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread William Miller
com/> millersolar.com 805-438-5600 From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Michael Kelly Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 3:10 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder Hi William, I wanted to let you kno

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread jay peltz
I do believe the outback and midnite combiners have a lock hole to prevent exactly your concern. unauthorized access. jay peltz power On Oct 6, 2014, at 11:40 AM, William Miller wrote: > Wrenches: > > We are getting up to speed on using transformer-less inverters. I have > advocated long fo

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread Jerry Shafer
Any time we do a ground array, at the array location we combine the strings and have a disconnect and it has come in handy to On Oct 6, 2014 10:41 AM, "Mark Westbrock" wrote: > If you don't want to combine strings at the array, then I would use a > Square D HU361 for each string. It is a lot of

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread Michael Kelly
renches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 14:40 To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder Wrenches: We are getting up to speed on using transformer-less inverters. I have advocated long for the

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread Mark Westbrock
If you don't want to combine strings at the array, then I would use a Square D HU361 for each string. It is a lot of hardware, but not too expensive and very straightforward for a lay person to shut off without risk. Cheers, Mark *Mark Westbrock* Field Manager & Employee-Owner NM EE98J Jou

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread All Solar, Inc.
How about the Midnite Solar four pole disconnect? Can't remember the model number but recently installed one on a two string TL input circuit. They are made for disconnecting both positive and negative. Jeremy Rodriguez, President All Solar, Inc. 1463 M Penrose Colorado 81240 719-372-3808 offi

Re: [RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread Benn Kilburn
William, No suggestions for what might work, but how would you be sure that the gardener (or other) would not attempt to open the fuseholders under load? Perhaps the box could have a padlock on it and the key could be located at the inverters where they could be shutdown prior to opening the fuseho

[RE-wrenches] TL inverter with long DC Feeder

2014-10-06 Thread William Miller
Wrenches: We are getting up to speed on using transformer-less inverters. I have advocated long for the additional safety offered by these inverters but I am realizing the trade-offs with the new technology: The implementation gets more complicated with the requirement for PV wire, OCPD and d