Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2025-01-31 Thread Kent via RE-wrenches
Kirk, Unless I remember incorrectly, a single diode gives half wave rectification, full wave rectification requires two diodes with a center-tapped transformer or a bridge rectifier. Half wave rectification injects a dc current on the inverter output; that is why some inverters don't do well

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2025-01-31 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Hi KirkI don’t have one who’s using the LUX between the grid and loads. Have you seen this issue?And from your comments, I guess the inverter doesn’t use a relay but some other device to pass through the grid  power?  Would it be the same for a generator?ThxJayOn Jan 30, 2025, at 6:59 PM, Kirk Hera

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2025-01-30 Thread Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches
Fortress tells me they just released the latest firmware to deal with half-wave loads. This version was put out for download a few days ago. In my case, they say it "might" help (CFL to) LED retrofit lamps from flickering when switching grid pass-thru to inverter AC. I am dubious. but I've since r

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-21 Thread David Coale via RE-wrenches
.org>> On Behalf Of Jay via > RE-wrenches > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2024 10:55 AM > To: RE-wrenches <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> > Cc: Jay mailto:jay.pe...@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads > > I can’t rememb

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-21 Thread pieter offgridenterprises.org via RE-wrenches
possible to correct the issue by re arranging circuit breakers in the MDP. Pieter Huebner Project Manager Off Grid Enterprises From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of Jay via RE-wrenches Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2024 10:55 AM To: RE-wrenches Cc: Jay Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads I can’t

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-21 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
I can’t remember if I sent the update. We identified the load as a Japanese bidet. Once unplugged everything is working normally. So whatever people want to call the 1/2 wave. It’s what multiple OEMS call it. If I can find an oscilloscope I’ll send along what the wave form looks like. Jay

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-19 Thread Jesse Dahl via RE-wrenches
I think about resistive loads as “in-phase”. Half-wave seem like they would a load with a diode blocking one side of the waveform. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 18, 2024, at 3:03 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches > wrote: > >  > I will add that I’ve heard privately off list that it’s actually smaller

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-19 Thread Glenn via RE-wrenches
Ugh, let's stop using jargon to describe something we don't understand.Performing half wave rectification of a sine wave doesn't make a new type of load called 1/2 wave load...Half wave rectification has been used by some electronics for years, but is uncommon and inefficient. How an inverter manuf

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-19 Thread Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches
Hello Wrenches, I wanted to look into this to see why a diode might be used in something like a heat load. William is right that a typical heat load wouldn't be considered a 1/2 wave load. However, some power level switches (like the little knob on the hair dryer) may engage a diode that will al

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-19 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Hi HowieThat’s great info thanks. They never mentioned that to me. And I’ve not heard about an actualHardware issue/fix. The latest firmware 1E1E is supposed to “fix” it. It also requires a separate firmware update for the display which you have to do in person, stupid. JayOn Dec 18, 2024, at 9:05 

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-18 Thread Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches
I installed a couple of EG4 18k inverters off grid this past spring, made by LuxPower as is the Envy. They look very similar both visually and programmatically. Withone install, there has been a steady problem of the inverter shutting off when the client uses a hair dryer. The other client has not

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-18 Thread GLBCC via RE-wrenches
You are describing resistive loads, which has nothing to do with the waveform of the utility.On Dec 18, 2024 15:52, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote:Here is what I understand 1/2 wave loads to be. As I understand it, Heater loads are the main issue. Toasters, toaster ovens, hair dryers, aquarium/terraium

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-18 Thread GLBCC via RE-wrenches
Having worked in power electronics monitoring and measuring for over a decade, I can say I have never heard of anything being referred to as a half wave load.On Dec 18, 2024 15:52, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote:Here is what I understand 1/2 wave loads to be. As I understand it, Heater loads are the ma

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-18 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
I will add that I’ve heard privately off list that it’s actually smaller loads that seem to be the issue. And larger 1500 watt electric heaters seem to work ok. I’m wondering if anyone else has come across this issue and I guess more importantly is there a fix? Jay > On Dec 18, 2024, at 1

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-18 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Here is what I understand 1/2 wave loads to be. As I understand it, Heater loads are the main issue. Toasters, toaster ovens, hair dryers, aquarium/terraium heaters etc. But if there are other things pls let us know Jay > On Dec 18, 2024, at 1:34 PM, GLBCC via RE-wrenches > wrote: > > 

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-18 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
:* Jay *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads As I understand it, Heater loads are the main issue. Toasters, toaster ovens, hair dryers, aquarium/terraium heaters etc. But I defer to others that know more. And I’m double checking to see if the information that I received is accurate

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-18 Thread GLBCC via RE-wrenches
What is a half wave load?On Dec 18, 2024 13:35, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote:Hi all. I’ve recently been made aware that the fortress inverter isn’t too happy with 1/2 wave loads. I’m wondering if this is an issue with the AIO or solark? Thanks in advance Jay ___

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-18 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
As I understand it, Heater loads are the main issue. Toasters, toaster ovens, hair dryers, aquarium/terraium heaters etc. But I defer to others that know more. And I’m double checking to see if the information that I received is accurate. And of course assuming it is correct, is there anyth

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-18 Thread Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches
Jay Can you give an example of a device that is powered by a half wave power supply that is large enough to create an issue for the Envy inverter? That would help track down why some loads cause the over load error, etc. Thank you, Maverick Maverick Brown Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006

[RE-wrenches] 1/2 wave loads

2024-12-18 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Hi all. I’ve recently been made aware that the fortress inverter isn’t too happy with 1/2 wave loads. I’m wondering if this is an issue with the AIO or solark? Thanks in advance Jay ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues