[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Sure, Jesse. See photos in this post: https://deaconpatrick.org/spring-snow . They show how far behind the front wheel I am. It is relatively unweighted, so free to float over anything it encounters. With 27.5+ tires, it has an outer diameter of close to 30". That gives a lot of rollover clearan

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread hugh flynn
You shouldn't be surprised by that at all. From my time working in bike retail I can say many $8k+ bikes are sold to people who don't know how to fix a flat let alone care about gear ratios, pneumatic trail, frame angles, or even the fact that handlebars can be raised or lowered. Members of the Bo

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Joe Bernard
I believe Jimmy Carter's Rivs were gifts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discus

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread masmojo
Yes, Hugh that's my point entirely. I think I'd worry less about the satisfaction of getting a friction shift right & more about the satisfaction of changing ones own tire. On the other hand bike shops are suffering now, they can use all the flats you have to be fixed! People who don't know how

[RBW] Re: Experiences with Atlantis

2020-01-08 Thread masmojo
Yes, but he is ramping up production, he was having things done in small batches in LA; if I am not mistaken he's now getting larger batches out of Taiwan. Yes, the Nor'Easter is sweet, but would basically be a duplicate of my Atlantis. -- You received this message because you are subscribe

[RBW] FS: 62 Sam, 58 Sam, Rosco Babys and some Surly Framesets

2020-01-08 Thread Steven Garen
Is the LHT 26 or 700c? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visi

[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Julian Westerhout
Jason, A visit to my LBSs reveals that the Clems are in the lower cost range compared to the big makers, and most of the other Rivs are well within the norm. I hear from these LBSs that sticker shock is pretty common for folks coming in the door and looking for anything over a basic cruiser --

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Swift Zeitgeist Saddle Bag, Nitto Rear Racks

2020-01-08 Thread Jed Sachen
Andre, So I'm new to the touring world (and the bike world in general) and I'm wondering if you know: - will the bigger rack fit a 26" bike (bridgestone xo-2, 52 cm) - will the mt campee easily support most panniers? (also going on a 26" bike), I'm assuming the bigger rack will. also, I believe th

[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2020-01-08 Thread James Valiensi
Hi, I had my configured with the Albatross bars (steel version) twice over the years. The one you described sounds like something I did about 8-years ago. I posted the photo on Flickr. I can no longer access my Flickr account so I cannot help find it. The past 3-years I had another set of Alba

[RBW] WTB: Nitto R-14 Rear Rack

2020-01-08 Thread Applegate
Hi all, The description covers most of this. I'd be fine to get the RBW one, but would need to weld on a light-mounting tab, and at that point I'd prefer to just buy the R-14 new. Let me know if anyone has one lying around! Thanks, Alex Applegate -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread 'Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch
BBDD, I think I've followed along in this thread and a few other related ones, but to make sure I'm with you: the two bikes in your photo are both set up for you to ride vs. one of yours and one set up for someone else? I know angles can on photos can distort distances, but it looks like the

[RBW] WTB: Handlebar bag

2020-01-08 Thread Sean Hipkin
Hi all, I'm on the hunt for a tall handlebar bag. Something like a Large Gilles Berthoug. Thanks so much! Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Leah Peterson
Kurt, You got it right - those are both my bikes and both are set up for me in that photo. The 2015 vs the 2019. You notice it by walking by for sure - even if you aren’t a bike person. I’m telling you it’s a difference you feel, a difference you see, and it causes real issues on bike racks an

[RBW] Re: FS: 62 Sam, 58 Sam, Rosco Babys and some Surly Framesets

2020-01-08 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
700c, thanks for the clarification... On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:14:13 PM UTC-5, Steven Garen wrote: > > Is the LHT 26 or 700c? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Important to note here too is the reality that with the mixte/low swooping top tube of a Clementine (I persist in calling it that, though technically the Clem L) and the Hillibikes Gus Boots Willsen et al, a person will "fit" 2-3 frame sizes, so part of the frame buying process is to understand

[RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread lconley
First Riv was a Blue headtube Sam Hillbourne. I was looking for something for light touring and the blue headtube versions were on sale ($900?). Probably found Rivendell through Google. First build was with Peter White built 48 spoke Velocity Chuckers on Phil/Son hubs - indestructible rims - mo

Re: [RBW] How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm an original True Believer. My initiation to being an adult cycling person was going to a Bridgestone shop with a friend and seeing the XO-1 with Moustache Handlebars in the catalogue they gave me. I eventually bought a '94 XO-3 and signed up for the Bridgestone Owner's Bunch, which got folde

[RBW] WTT: IRD Defiant 94bcd 175 arms for 170 or 172.5 arms

2020-01-08 Thread 'Justin August' via RBW Owners Bunch
Looking to trade! I have: IRD Defiant 94bcd 175 arms I’d like to trade for 170 or 172.5 arms Thanks ahead of time! -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread John Phillips
Eric, looking at the photo of you next to your Quickbeam, I'm flummoxed. In which direction did Riv think you should go, larger frame or smaller, or sideways to a different model? On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 11:02:40 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: > Side note: As readers of this list know, R

Re: [RBW] How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread masmojo
I guess around 88-89 I had a pretty decent job and I'd gotten a nice bonus, I was looking to replace the custom Cruiser I had built with a mountain bike. My buddy was managing a bike shop in Austin and said he'd help me choose something. I drove up from Houston and looked at what he had, the two

[RBW] Re: long shot: looking to test ride a 60cm Cheviot in the DC area

2020-01-08 Thread Tom Wyland
What's this about the "new" Cheviot? Anyone have details? Tom On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 11:22:09 AM UTC-5, Paul Richardson wrote: > > i've got a wolbis on the way to meet *my* long wheelbase needs. it's my > wife who's in need of a new bicycle. grant convinced me to wait 'til > april

[RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread Glen
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 10:52:28 AM UTC-7, Pancake wrote: > > Leah's discussion about long wheel base led to a lot of interesting > discussions about how people found Rivendell. I'd like to know: > >- How you first found out about Rivendell? > > 1996 century ride swag bag included a

[RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread Gabriel Bruguier
I first heard of Rivendell in 2015. I had recently bought my first nice bike (an early Reynolds-tubed Crosscheck), and was poring over forums learning about parts upgrades, different set-ups, and the like. I saw the name Rivendell come up frequently, so I checked them out. I wanted an Atlan

[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Cheviot complete, Crust Towel Rack build

2020-01-08 Thread Gabriel Bruguier
Bump! F/f/hs & wheelset are still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this di

[RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Abe, what a fun and fantastic topic! Thanks for starting it. Look at that delicious darling baby! 😍 I shall try not to covet her over here, but it’s asking a lot. 1. How did you find out about Rivendell? After a life of garage sale Huffys and Walmart specials, I had no taste of finery in bic

[RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread Daniel D.
I first heard mocking references to rivendell and grant on forums and blogs. Read some of Grant's writings. Even though I liked wool, steel, axes, etc. I joined in the mocking. On a whim I went by Rivendell. I loved the store and everyone I interacted with. Every time I've been by I've enj

[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Cheviot complete, Crust Towel Rack build

2020-01-08 Thread Gabriel Bruguier
Oops, the Paul Racers and other Paul bits are also available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Lester Lammers
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:15:45 PM UTC-5, Kurt Henry wrote: > > BBDD, I think I've followed along in this thread and a few other related > ones, but to make sure I'm with you: the two bikes in your photo are both > set up for you to ride vs. one of yours and one set up for someone el

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Leah Peterson
Well, Lester, we’ve been over this. I have the shortest stem money can buy on that bike now. That’s an old photo. There’s only like 100 posts on this topic, try to keep up! Sent from my iPad > On Jan 8, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Lester Lammers wrote: > >  > > >> On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 1

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread j.schwartz
@Iambbo APPROVE -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit htt

Re: [RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Send all the New Bike Day pics, Leah! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion

Re: [RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread Joe Bernard
He matchy-matches clothes and bikes. That's sweet. And hilarious. But mostly sweet 😉 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubs

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Paul! You like step-throughs even more than me!!! My wheels are all 650B. My stem is a 50. I hope you are wrong wrong wrong because I really want this bike to work now that I’ve purchased it and decked it out. I don’t know if it feels twitchy in handling; not that I realize, but heaven help me

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Leah, rest assured! I used a 5cm stem for several years and loved it on both my QB and Hunqapillar. They both sport Bullmoose, at max height and also ride beautifully. Others rave about the 3cm and even 0cm stems offered by someone here recently. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, January 8,

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Yes and the stem length issue is being directed at a very specific situation, the Baby Bike. I'm not sure we can use that to compare to other frames. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop r

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Paul, I re-measured my PBH and get 81. Makes more sense. D. Patrick - that is so encouraging. Truly. I like my bars at max height as well. I wish I lived closer to some of your bike folks and you could see the bike and how it fits and tell me if I’ve gotten it right. It feels right, but it’s

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Let's all take a road trip to Nevada! The Bicycle Belle Rivendell Jamboree! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@goog

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Leah, sounds like you're doing great and have it well in hand. I took years to learn to make big changes then dial toward wee ones. If you want, however, feel free to try the vicarious version of us being there. Ride by feel. Arms tired? Core sore? Anywhere talking to you? Hands numb? When you

[RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread reynoldslugs
> > Hi Riv Gang: > Rivendell came along to me, and substantially improved my life, in nineteen and ninety-nine, IIRC. This was pre-hipster era, before the current boom in customs and the current availability of good steel bikes. So one night in 1999, I was drinking beer with The Reverend Re

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2020-01-08 Thread James Valiensi
Yup that’s it. > On Jan 8, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Chris L wrote: > > Here is the photo. Sounds like your bike. > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 11:15:00 AM UTC-6, James Valiensi wrote: > Hi, > I had my configured with the Albatross bars (steel version) twice over the > years. The o

Re: [RBW] How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread Michael Cinibulk
I learned about Rivendell in 1997 when I was educating myself Online on high-end steel road frames and manufacturers. I ended up buying a Waterford but became a Riv member shortly thereafter and continued to follow them along with BQ. I’d always wanted an Atlantis When they were introduced but

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Ah, that's a good data point, Patrick. If there's one thing that's almost universally true in cycling it's this: not-serious cyclists run the saddle too low, serious cyclists learn this is bad and raise their saddle too high. Everyone reading this should drop their saddle just a bit lower than t

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Paul Clifton
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 6:49:42 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Yes and the stem length issue is being directed at a very specific > situation, the Baby Bike. I'm not sure we can use that to compare to other > frames. I don't necessarily agree. I'm pretty sure stem length effects

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Paul Clifton
Leah, I forgot to ask ... Are you interested in selling any of those stems you tested? I'm looking for a 90mm (or 80mm maybe) and would be glad to buy one of yours. Or maybe a trade for the 80mm dirt drop stem I have on the baby bike right now, if you are inclined to try a riser stem. Paul P.

[RBW] FS: Jones Spaceframe Plus

2020-01-08 Thread maxcr
The bike and bags have been sold. Thanks for looking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view

[RBW] How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread Pancake
Thanks for all the delightful stories and photos! This has been so fun to read through today! Keep those Irvin stories coming. Abe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Switching Appaloosa from 700 to 650b

2020-01-08 Thread PaulS
Unless you plan on riding down the trail straddling the top tube, I’d not worry about it. My Hunq is the same way. Fits great when riding, but no stand over. I’m not worried about it one bit. I’m done having kids anyway. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

[RBW] Re: Switching Appaloosa from 700 to 650b

2020-01-08 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Plus one for low to no stand over clearance and technical trail riding. This is the set up of both my Hunqapillar and QB and I've ridden Rocky Mountain trails with and without loads and bailed any number of times and never once had an issue. If you're bailing onto the top tube, you're doing it

[RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread 'Eric Myers' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'd ridden bikes as a kid and had a Cannondale touring bike in college, but then nothing for about 15 years. Around 2007 my wife and I decided that bike riding would be a good family activity for us and our young child. We got three-speeds (mine was a beat up 67 Raleigh Superbe), but I fell in

[RBW] How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread Drw
Early 2000’s fixie craze. I converted a number of lugged Japanese toad bikes to fixed and then single speed bikes. Got the taste for lugs and classic looks. rivendell (and velo orange) sold brakes and other parts that Made these conversions easier. That was my introduction. Coincidentally, a lot

[RBW] Hauling a 7' Ski Pole by Hunqapillar

2020-01-08 Thread PaulS
Should be fairly easy to rig something up with a piece of pvc. Lots of ideas if you look up fishing pole carrier for bicycles ie https://www.instructables.com/id/Fishing-Rod-Holder-for-Your-Bike/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gr

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Leah Peterson
I’m sorry, Paul, I sold all the stems. I heard stems will sit a while, but they were snapped right up. I’m sorry! Sent from my iPad > On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Paul Clifton wrote: > >  > Leah, I forgot to ask ... > > Are you interested in selling any of those stems you tested? I'm looking

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Drw
Hey Paul, Can you describe the differences between the roscoe mtnmixtie (I also have one) and the Clem L? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rb

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Joe Bernard
"I’m sorry, Paul, I sold all the stems. I heard stems will sit a while, but they were snapped right up. I’m sorry!" Wrapped in Christmas ribbon. You couldn't even see what they looked like and she sold every one immediately. That was crazy! -- You received this message because you are subscri

[RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Speedblends! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https:/

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-08 Thread Paul Clifton
Joe's comment got me thinking, and I realized I never really said what I meant to say about the qualities of long bikes. I really didn't mean to meander off back to Leah's bike fit, and stem shopping. My bad ... *The opinions expressed in this opinion are entirely opinions. I'm not trying to