[RBW] Re: Sugino GP bottom bracket size?

I have a GP triple (130 BCD though) that was on a Marinoni Turismo (c.2000) and it had a 122 spindle. Might be good to try the 118 and eyeball the clearance to provide a reference point. IanA/Canada. On Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:24:41 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: > > Anyone used an old Sugino

[RBW] Re: Errandonnee Runner

Great title Deacon. Did you coin this word? I love it.So glad to read that you keep pushing on what you can do, instead of getting stuck in what you can't. As a hospital chaplain (now retired) I worked with quite a few survivors of CHI & TBI as well as skull fractures, mostly compliment

[RBW] Re: What do you do on your Birthaday?

A fine way to usher in the next year! Your write-ups have been a great vicarious rider's view of SoCal to those of us less familiar to that riding environment (as opposed to snow, 30°s, rain, potholes, etc.). I keep reading. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:34:17 PM UTC-4

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

A very strong point I think many realize but fail to apply for the benefit of any riding group. It was the lacking sentiment that sent me to the trails to find my own biking enjoyment a long time ago. Knowing it is possible for myself allows me to do keep the riding fun for others. Less process

[RBW] Re: Errandonnee Runner

I can claim "meandonnee" but "errandonnee" is something I saw first in various Flickr shots and Shoji just posted the source: http://chasingmailboxes.com/2014/03/04/winter-challenge-the-errandonnee-2014-edition/. Neural plasticity is amazing stuff. Fortunately, for all it's complexity, it boil

Re: [RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

Hey Andy, Sorry to hear that your Philmont experience was more death march than fun adventure... I had the wonderfull opportunity to do that trip twice ( '94 and '95), the second year we took a more aggressive hi-mileage trek but it was definitely a group decision. Erl, Great points, I need to b

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

Och, Andy! How many of your compatriots learned to love wilderness adventure after that "racing" mentality? Gadzooks! Where you ended up, seeking and finding the gift so very oddly wrapped, is the best place to end up when the cause of suffering is beyond your control. Attitude within suffering

[RBW] Want to buy: Folding bead 35mm smooth tires

Ready to give fatties a try. Wondering if you have a pair of some good ones for sale = Cypres, Kojak, Brown? I can buy them new, but think someone might have a couple of good ones at a fine price right here. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Ow

[RBW] Re: Want to buy: Folding bead 35mm smooth tires

Looking for 700c, Thanks. On Friday, April 25, 2014 6:42:02 AM UTC-7, eflayer wrote: > Ready to give fatties a try. Wondering if you have a pair of some good > ones for sale = Cypres, Kojak, Brown? > > I can buy them new, but think someone might have a couple of good ones at > a fine price ri

[RBW] 10 speed conundrum(s)

I'm building up a new frame, and trying to keep it a secret, at least, until I thin the herd. So I was thinking I would re-use, scavenge or just get parts out of my box of odds and ends, as much as I can. So I have these 10 speed Ultegra 6700 brifters that I got a while back for a stupid cheap pr

Re: [RBW] 10 speed conundrum(s)

On 04/25/2014 11:41 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: I do have a 9 speed Shimano MTB derailer, model M-592, that I do have lying around and I have found postings out there on the Internet that say 9 speed Shimano MTB derailers should work fine for shifting a road 10 speed setup. Of course, you know wh

[RBW] Re: Want to buy: Folding bead 35mm smooth tires

I have 3 Pasela 700x37 in good used shape you can have for $40 Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegrou

Re: [RBW] Re: What do you do on your Birthaday?

Andy, I'm glad you enjoyed the post. I really love the blogs I read from the other coast as I've never (hope to in the future) ridden a bike in any of those locations like your Pittsburgh. When I think about how to celebrate the day of my birth I don't think, I want this materiel thing or that or

[RBW] Re: Errandonnee Runner

Keep us postedon the Brewvet... that sounds like something to not be missed! On Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:13:25 PM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > > Hey Patrick, > I'm really happy to hear about how the bike (a Hunqapillar no less!) has > changed your life. I've learned a lot from you and many o

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

Great to see a thread on the GAP. I've done much of it, both with kids and friends. With kids, I tend to spend the night indoors (you were near the Levi Deal Mansion B&B in Meyersdale which I highly recommend for cyclists). The stretch of the trail from Meyersdale to Frostburg, MD is the most

Re: [RBW] Re: Smoking might be good for you

Eric: Who is the author of Road to Valor? George Strickler New Orleans, La. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:40:54 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote: > > Made me smile, too. BTW, it reminds me that the book Road to Valor is a > nice biography of Bartali. Not sure if all allegations are true, but if > so, h

[RBW] Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

Hello All: I just purchased a beautiful used 1999 Waterford built Heron and you can see the sellers ad here. Before buying it I looked at the archived version of the Heron website for 99

Re: [RBW] Re: Smoking might be good for you

http://www.amazon.com/Road-Valor-Cyclist-Inspired-Nation/dp/030759064X I have it if you'd like to read it. I can mail it to you. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Apr 24, 2014

[RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

Jim - I have to say that I'm not really following your point. Certainly, it's got to be frustrating to purchase something that doesn't do what you hoped it would. But, I'm not sure how you get from a 15 year old archived web page to losing trust in Rivendell. Second to that, tire profiles ha

[RBW] Re: Errandonnee Runner

Here's more on the Brewvet Challenge: http://portajohn.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/brewvet-challenge-what-you-need-to-know/ On Friday, April 25, 2014 1:06:04 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > Keep us postedon the Brewvet... that sounds like something to not be > missed! > > On Thursday, Ap

Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

I can understand why you'd be miffed; you're out $900. But I have to echo Jim's statements; Riv might be a weird company but it's not an unethical or dishonest company. I also noticed (can't really see) but it looks like it has semi-horizontal dropouts...if you back way off on those, can you fit a

[RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

At some point, rivendell sold their interest in the heron brand to someone, who then again sold it to someone. So I believe there were 2 or 3 iterations of heron bikes. I think when you're buying used bikes (esp one that's 14 years old), it's buyer beware. Riv could have changed the specs bef

Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

Jim- Seems like a small thing to get so offended by. However, I was in your shoes when I picked up my '97 Rivendell Road. Riv Catalog 3 (1997) states that the Riv Road has clearance for 700x35c tires, but mine barely clears a 700x28c tire, with about 1 mm to spare under the brake bridge and fork

[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question

So it was, after all, the rivets. They aren't hex screws any more. The rivets were not allowing the spacer to do it's job properly, resulting in some wobble in the cassette. Since I tightened the living snot out of the cassette (a different story for a different time, but, suffice to say, the

[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question

Beautiful! Enjoy! With abandon, Patrick On Friday, April 25, 2014 12:04:52 PM UTC-6, Zack wrote: > > So it was, after all, the rivets. They aren't hex screws any more. The > rivets were not allowing the spacer to do it's job properly, resulting in > some wobble in the cassette. Since I tight

Re: [RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question

Dude you cold formed the spacer? BAD ASS! On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Beautiful! Enjoy! > > With abandon, > Patrick > > > On Friday, April 25, 2014 12:04:52 PM UTC-6, Zack wrote: >> >> So it was, after all, the rivets. They aren't hex screws any more. The >> riv

Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

Like it was made for em. On Friday, April 25, 2014 10:53:16 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote: > > Jim- > > Seems like a small thing to get so offended by. However, I was in your > shoes when I picked up my '97 Rivendell Road. Riv Catal

Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

Last year I picked up my first Rivendell, a 650B 56 Homer that is listed as accepting tires up to 41mm. I had done a lot of research in this group but still felt lucky and relieved when 42mm Hetre's and fenders fit without incident. David On Apr 25, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Evan Baird wrote: > Like

Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

I want to repeat something that's kind of bugged me a few times: If you want to know about Rivendell Bicycles you can call or email them. They will tell you to the best of their availability. They run a business; it's in their interests to tell you what you want to know. They're not a church; you'

Re: [RBW] Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

It might depend on the 700cx35 tires in question. The Heron Road was designed to use short reach side-pull brakes with the pads at their maximum extension to allow the use of the widest possible tires on a 700c rim running through a short-reach caliper. From a practical perspective, that value i

Re: [RBW] Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

If it is a '99, it is a Ted Durant financed, Riv designed and marketed Heron. Please remember that the only standard/long reach brakes available then were old, either used or NOS. Riv road models generally were made for maximum clearance with "normal" short reach calipers. I think tires were mor

[RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

Rivendell and to some extent all of the off-shoots from RBW are small volume frames manufactured over the course of many years in different batches. Things change over time. clearances go up, tweaks happen. The only true way to verify something you buy is to measure, this would be true of any

[RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

If memory serves me right, in 1999 the typical "35 MM" tire rarely measured more than 32 mm and often as little as 30mm. I know my wife had a long lived pair of 35 pasellas which were the same size as my newer 32's which were not much more than 30 mm. Today many tires seem to be much closer to

Re: [RBW] Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

jim, the Road morphed into the Rally which uses 47-57mm brakes and can fit a 32mm tire easily...perhaps thats where your confusion and subsequent problem arises from http://web.archive.org/web/20090430010313/http://www.heronbicycles.com/frames.html __

Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

David Hays wrote: > > Last year I picked up my first Rivendell, a 650B 56 Homer that is listed > as accepting tires up to 41mm. > I had done a lot of research in this group but still felt lucky and > relieved when 42mm Hetre's and fenders fit without incident. > David > Same situation here. I p

[RBW] New SRAM chain noiser than previous Shimano chain?

Hi Group- Just replaced the chain on my '12 Hillborne. My previous chain was an XT/Ultegra 9 speed. Current chain is a SRAM PC 991 (SRAM's high-end 9s chain). Installation was very easy, but this thing sounds like a rachet riding along, and I am certain it's not FD rub. Is this normal? Did

[RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

It is a huge bummer when you think you're going to run a 35 and find that a 32 barely fits. On Thursday, April 24, 2014 1:28:00 PM UTC-7, Jim Martin wrote: > > Hello All: > > I just purchased a beautiful used 1999 Waterford built Heron and you can > see the sellers ad > here

Re: [RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

Tony, To the contrary, my trip at Philmont was stellar. My take on the itinerary was that programs are fine but often were detractions to the peace and beauty available if one looked around. Iron pot stew is fine but making a freeze-dried repast on the top of Mount Phillips over what became an

Re: [RBW] Get your Rivendell water bottles!

I was wrong, it's only 15% off, still a hot deal though! http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/310940844287?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item486584c0ff On Apr 25, 2014 12:13 AM, "Peter Morgano" wrote: > Dude I have a feeling if you hold out it might

Re: [RBW] Re: Smoking might be good for you

Thanks, Hugh. Didn't see this earlier today. Eric Platt On Apr 25, 2014 12:27 PM, "Hugh Smitham" wrote: > http://www.amazon.com/Road-Valor-Cyclist-Inspired-Nation/dp/030759064X > > I have it if you'd like to read it. I can mail it to you. > > ~Hugh > > “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep y

[RBW] Re: FS: Grand Bois rando bars, Soma Brevet bars + 650B wheelset

Everything's sold. Thnx all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send emai

[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question

My guess is Shimano has multiple vendors making cassettes. I've seen them with both rivets and allen head screws. The rivets come off easily enough with either a cold chisel or a file. I've had some that were like butter, one whack & the head popped off. Others only responded to grinding. I

[RBW] Re: Student you guys helped update

Good to see the Chiang Mai Rivendell group is still active. You guys have been quiet for a while. Still hoping to see you here in OC someday. dougP On Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:51:05 PM UTC-7, Kip Otteson wrote: > Hey, guys. Thanks again for helping out the student Kan kyi that I wrote >

Re: [RBW] Re: Grey Blue, Blue Grey Sam Hillborne touch up paint.

It's true that it's not a huge effort. Gunnar (waterford) actively does it, but they charge a lot, offer no refunds and smartly they guarantee that touch up paint never will match perfectly. $20 for a bottle if you have a one-step color (like Atlantis Green). $30 if your color is two-step (li

Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

The OP did carefully go to the '99 archived website to try to research the exact model and year that he was getting. So it's not accurate to say that models changing over the years was the reason for his clearance expectations not being met.However, Rivendell wasn't being deceptive in 1999. The exc

Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

Sorry, let me amend that last sentence from "tires have changed in 15 years" to "tire dimension labeling has changed in 15 years."-Original Message- From: James Warren Sent: Apr 25, 2014 3:54 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info abou

[RBW] Altus! Love the cheap derailer BLUG

I love the BLUG post on cheap derailers. Especially when you are using friction shifting, your derailer doesn't do much of anything. It makes so much sense to use cheap ones. Cyclists tend to brag about what they can break when they abuse the crap out of their equipment. There's a lot less

[RBW] Re: 10 speed conundrum(s)

For shimano and SRAM,10spd road and mountain use the same cog spacing. Cable pull ratios are what distinguish Shimano dyna-sis (10spd mountain) derailleurs from their other derailleurs. I have successfully wide range STI setups for customers exactly as you are describing: 10spd road brifters,

Re: [RBW] Re: Errandonnee Runner

Perfect!!! Cheers, David "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > Here's more on the Brewvet Challenge: > > http://portajohn.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/brewvet-challenge-what-you-need-to-know/ > > > > >

Re: [RBW] Altus! Love the cheap derailer BLUG

I thought they should have gotten the M370 Altus which indexes 9 speed and looks somewhat normal: http://www.ebikestop.com/shimano_altus_m370_9_speed_rear_derailleur_silver-RD0001.php But I do like the fact that the Altus uses the bigger wheels rather than a longer cage to accommodate larger cogs

Re: [RBW] Altus! Love the cheap derailer BLUG

Looks like Grant made a math error towards the bottom, 22 + 21 = 43, not 44. "Big chainring 46. Small 24. That diff is 22. Big cassette tooth 32, small 11, that’s 21t The 44t diff exceeds by a tooth, but two things here: One, I bet Shimano gives you a tooth to work with, and the bigger TWO, the w

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Prototype on Blug?

Went to BBH on Main Street on rode the prototype. According to the employee, it is an updated Hunqapillar. Was a nice riding bike. On Friday, April 11, 2014 9:42:56 AM UTC-7, eric wallacker wrote: > > My assumption is that the proto-blue bike is the not-officially-named > but aforementioned one

Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

An excellent point. I wouldn't necessarily expect them to have specs for a bike they sold 15 years ago, but it is hard to know if you don't ask. They are exceptionally friendly folks too. Hugh "2000 Heron Road, but wish I had grabbed a Touring too" Flynn On Apr 25, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Chris Che

Re: [RBW] Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

Disagree. RX100 long reach DPs were around then, and those are still some of my favorite brakes. If you wanted longer, you dropped to BMX quality, but Tektro's superlongs were available by 2003. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" g

Re: [RBW] Altus! Love the cheap derailer BLUG

I'm not a weight weenie, but it weighs exactly three-fourths of a freaking pound. If you need full wrap capacity, you're doing something wrong, and it's mostly gearing in bad chainline. On Friday, April 25, 2014 8:12:51 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: > > Looks like Grant made a math error towar

Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

Indeed. I used to run "32" Paselas and they rarely mic'd out larger than 30 mm's. Pasela tire casings were changed (someone would have to be enthusiastic enough about this to troll through the iBob archives - I recall when this happened there was much chatter and talk about that) to a rounder

[RBW] Re: Student you guys helped update

Doug, I'll be there summer after this one. I'll be hooking up for a ride for sure. Come on out whenever you get the itch. On Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:43:11 AM UTC+7, dougP wrote: > > Good to see the Chiang Mai Rivendell group is still active. You guys have > been quiet for a while. Still h

Re: [RBW] Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

They weren't when the Heron Road was introduced, though. Rather than adapt the Heron to take advantage of the increase in clearance, Grant introduced the Rambouillet... On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro < marchantshap...@gmail.com> wrote: > Disagree. RX100 long reach DPs

[RBW] Re: Student you guys helped update

It's always summer in Thailand! Seriously, keep in touch & give us yet another reason for a Riv ride. dougP On Friday, April 25, 2014 6:36:31 PM UTC-7, Kip Otteson wrote: > Doug, I'll be there summer after this one. I'll be hooking up for a ride > for sure. Come on out whenever you get th

[RBW] Re: Altus! Love the cheap derailer BLUG

I'm impressed that any rear derailer can retail for $24. There are quite a few moving parts made to close tolerances just for the thing to function. I actually think the Altus looks pretty good, at least in the photo. BTW, I had one of the referenced Univega Gran Rallys with the 600 stuff.

[RBW] Rivish Trek 970 Commuter

I had been searching for a nice Trek 900 series frame for awhile, and finally I found the right one to build into a nice commuter. Here's a quick shot of it, and a link to more pics. The

[RBW] Re: New SRAM chain noiser than previous Shimano chain?

Solved- I had it routed correctly, but on the wrong side of the connected cage piece. The little things. On Friday, April 25, 2014 1:00:08 PM UTC-7, Tim Tetrault wrote: > > Hi Group- > > Just replaced the chain on my '12 Hillborne. My previous chain was an > XT/Ultegra 9 speed. Current chain is

[RBW] Fwd: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

I'm a big fan of low, low gears. I have them on both my Atlantises; my Roadeo has pretty low gears too considering I never carry much on it. People always say to me, "I don't want lower gears because then I couldn't balance." I never understood that. I don't have a bit of problem riding at 2.5 mph

Re: [RBW] Fwd: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

*Very* interesting. What more particularly are you experiencing when you cling so slowly with such low gears? Front end wobble? It would help to know more precisely what exactly you experience. I've never been good at balancing at very low speeds; I really do fall over if I go too slowly. But I

[RBW] Re: Altus! Love the cheap derailer BLUG

the Arabesque was more than pretty, It weighs 190g and one of the best derailleurs ever made. I ran a narrow 8-speed on it before I "upgraded" to a Campy it was a standard for Italian road bikes in the 80s.

Re: [RBW] Fwd: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

That's a good question, and I'm not sure what the answer is. On my Atlantis, I'm able to pedal pretty much until I just can't turn the wheels any more. With the Krampus, I certainly notice that the front wheel has less weight on it. On a steep hill on the Krampus, I have to work to make sure the fr

Re: [RBW] Re: Heron: Why the incorrect info about tire clearance?

Early to mid aughts - that sounds about right. I remember the chatter of the time, and I remember buying Paselas then and discerning between the old Paselas and the new with their more precise numbering and nicer profile. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

[RBW] Re: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

somewhere below 20" gears, you lose the gyro effect of the wheels, which affects your ability to keep your balance on a bicycle. On Friday, April 25, 2014 10:27:22 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: > > > I'm a big fan of low, low gears. I have them on both my Atlantises; my > Roadeo has pretty l

[RBW] Re: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mechanics/bicycle.html http://uw.physics.wisc.edu/~wonders/DemoBWG.html On Friday, April 25, 2014 11:31:24 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > somewhere below 20" gears, you lose the gyro effect of the wheels, which > affects your ability to keep your balance

Re: [RBW] Re: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

I have a 16.5" gear on my Atlantis, and when I'm touring I sometimes spend hours climbing long climbs using it, so I've already abandoned whatever gyroscopic effects are available with bigger gears. I've read that the gyroscope effect is not relevant for bikes-- didn't someone build an anti-gyro b

Re: [RBW] Re: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

it may not be completely gone. Trail is the next thing that comes to mind, since long-trail has such a strong on-center effect, and short-trail bikes hunt downhill in a hurry. On Friday, April 25, 2014 11:42:01 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: > > I have a 16.5" gear on my Atlantis, and when I'm

Re: [RBW] Re: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

I'm still sure it's a combination of these two effects that you're experiencing. On Friday, April 25, 2014 11:48:09 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > it may not be completely gone. Trail is the next thing that comes to > mind, since long-trail has such a strong on-center effect, and short-trail >

Re: [RBW] Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

M guess is that you are more relaxed on the other bikes and that with the Krampus you are expending energy in ways not helpful to climbing. Your description of deliberately leaning down and pulling back on the bars, for example. Maybe this is interfering with your breathing. On Apr 25, 2014,

Re: [RBW] Re: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

here we go, the third effect is mass distribution (front-rear) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_and_motorcycle_dynamics Read a quick link on Lovely Bicycles that upright bikes are more difficult to balance a low speed than road bikes because of mass distribution effects. On Friday, Apr

[RBW] Re: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

One thing most people experience when going from 26" wheeled MTB's to 29" MTB is that they can't climb as well. I've learned that you need to use an even lower gear to be able to turn the larger circumference wheels. I have yet to try a 29+ bike but I can guess it will need an even lower gear.

[RBW] Re: FS/T: Nitto Bullmoose Bar, 200mm, Unpainted

hey thill these still for sale I have bosco bars if ur still looking for a trade. manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+uns