here we go, the third effect is mass distribution (front-rear) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_and_motorcycle_dynamics Read a quick link on Lovely Bicycles that upright bikes are more difficult to balance a low speed than road bikes because of mass distribution effects.
On Friday, April 25, 2014 11:51:55 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > I'm still sure it's a combination of these two effects that you're > experiencing. > > On Friday, April 25, 2014 11:48:09 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: >> >> it may not be completely gone. Trail is the next thing that comes to >> mind, since long-trail has such a strong on-center effect, and short-trail >> bikes hunt downhill in a hurry. >> >> On Friday, April 25, 2014 11:42:01 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: >>> >>> I have a 16.5" gear on my Atlantis, and when I'm touring I sometimes >>> spend hours climbing long climbs using it, so I've already abandoned >>> whatever gyroscopic effects are available with bigger gears. >>> >>> I've read that the gyroscope effect is not relevant for bikes-- didn't >>> someone build an anti-gyro bike, with a second wheel spinning in the >>> opposite direction, and discover that it was easy to steer? >>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.