Re: [RBW] Question on cartridge BB

2011-11-03 Thread stevef
Steel cup'd Tange bottom brackets are available here, if you decide to go that route. I've used them--they're good. http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=0&keyword=tange+bottom+bracket -- You received this message because you are subscribed t

[RBW] Re: I really dislike sales tax

2011-11-03 Thread John Bennett
Robert *is* on vacation, and Jenny, our new shipper, is doing a great job of keeping up with the flow of orders after only a few weeks on the job. Monday, she packed and shipped 60 orders by herself. Apologies for the too big box, but under the circumstances, I'd rather she get the boxes out the d

[RBW] Re: I really dislike sales tax

2011-11-03 Thread William
60 orders in one day! That's some serious throughput. As much as I enjoy picking up my stuff in person, now I'm tempted to have you ship so I can see Jenny learn the art from the master. What's the trickiest thing to ship? A bullmoose bar? -- You received this message because you are sub

[RBW] Re: I really dislike sales tax

2011-11-03 Thread John Bennett
A bike stand, I reckon. On Nov 3, 9:58 am, William wrote: > 60 orders in one day!  That's some serious throughput.  As much as I enjoy > picking up my stuff in person, now I'm tempted to have you ship so I can > see Jenny learn the art from the master.  What's the trickiest thing to > ship?  A

[RBW] Re: FS: Wool-blend vest, XL

2011-11-03 Thread Beth H
SOLD, thanks much On Nov 2, 8:43 am, b hamon wrote: > Vintage Bontrager wool-blend vest, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I'm considering a fancy new wheelset and am looking at hubs. All three listed above have great reputations, and are well regarded. >From what I've read, Hopes are the loudest, followed by King and then White. Does anyone have first hand knowledge with that? I'm leaning toward White as they look

Re: [RBW] Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread Jim Mather
I've had King and White. Both provide excellent performance and durability. I've used them extensively for single speed mountain biking and they have endured hard usage without trouble. The ratcheting of the King freehub is very loud, and I could see it being annoying for some. The White is noticea

Re: [RBW] Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread Steven Frederick
I have a WI freehub on my 650b custom--it's fantastic. A very Campy like buzz-not so loud as some I've heard but not as quiet as Shimano. Recommended. Haven't had it long enough to speak to reliability or service but they are well reviewed and it seems to turn forever when you give it a little sp

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread William
The chris king hubs have their own ringtone. You have to celebrate the noise http://chrisking.com/ringtone If the Hope is even louder, then like whoa. In my shopping for fancy rear hubs I had made my mind up on the White, especially for how nicely it complements a SON delux up front. Inste

Re: [RBW] Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:10 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm considering a fancy new wheelset and am looking at hubs.  All > three listed above have great reputations, and are well regarded. > From what I've read, Hopes are the loudest, followed by King and then > White.  Does anyone have f

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread Minh
I have a set of CKs from a few years ago and they are still really loud, the sound is also high-pitched, so buzzing bees is a good description. I have a WI Dos FW on my quickbeam, also quite loud, but a different tone, not sure if the WI hubs are the same or not, just another data- point. Either o

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
THANKS for all the replies, it sounds like everyone is pretty much on the same page. Shimano is still in the running, but I don't need to ask any advice on them :-) I have some Phil Wood cassette hubs, so don't mind a little ratchet, but the Hopes seem really loud from what I've read. Friends ha

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Oh, and I'm looking at the cassette hub models specifically. On Nov 3, 1:00 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" wrote: > THANKS for all the replies, it sounds like everyone is pretty much on > the same page. > > Shimano is still in the running, but I don't need to ask any advice on > them :-) > > I have

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread Allan in Portland
FWIW, you couldn't give me a Chris King. The hubs are all over Portland. Too loud, too NASCAR. The WI, which came to me through purchase of a used bike, I find pleasant in both looks and sound. It is also incredibly smooth. It spins down a stop like no other wheel I've owned. Regards, -Allan -

[RBW] Somewhat esoteric mechanical maneuver. Removing a freehub body from a rear hub

2011-11-03 Thread William
I built up a 650B wheelset using a SON delux front hub and a used Deore XT hub that I got from ebay. Turns out that the 90's era XT rear hub had a non-original freehub body on it. When I put a cassette on it, the largest cog hit the spokes. I did a bit of comparison with my other wheels with

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread stevep33
Many thousands of trouble-free miles on White hubs (MI5, H2, H3, etc). Not as quiet as a Shimano hub but still easy on the ears. Hard to beat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit http

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread Michael_S
I had a set of Hope disc hubs... too noisy for me. Same with Kings. The Whites are on my list for when I win the Lotto. Are these for the Gunnar or the Riv? There are other choices if you are getting Disc's ( can I say* that* word here?) I went with NOS older model XT's on my 29er ( the o

[RBW] Re: I really dislike sales tax

2011-11-03 Thread islaysteve
Well, the 12 RBW stickers you guys sent me didn't take up hardly any room at all in my order. Thanks for honoring my request! Hope you got a lot of orders from the 5% off deal and best wishes for a busy holiday season. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread S.Cutshall
Agreed. Bought a King cassette hub for the Bleriot thinking I'd do my part for the local economy/support the Home Team, etc... never again. Love Chris' headsets, but The Angry Bee is not for me. Thousands of miles on it, still louder than a Tea Party get-together at a Metallica concert. On an aver

RE: [RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread Joe Bartoe
The answer to the angry bee sound of a King hub is to keep pedaling. Coasting is for sissies! Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:05:42 -070

[RBW] Bike for Kids Donations Plea

2011-11-03 Thread Joe Bartoe
Hi Everyone, I have posted this before, but I wanted to re-send. I am helping out an effort to raise money for the Santa Ana Boys and Girls Club (California) that is aimed at providing bikes and helmets for 100 underpriveleged kids during the upcoming holiday season. If you would like to don

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
As Allan implied, I thought the King Buzz was simply the background noise of Portland!!! :-) White hubs are definitely coming out on top in this scientific sample. Too bad the used market is non-existent. I'm guessing they have much low production numbers that any of the others. Anyone have a

[RBW] Atlantis frame

2011-11-03 Thread muckum
Anyone in the market for an Atlantis frame 64cm? Very good condition. I am considering doing another build on a new frame with my current components. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-ow

Re: [RBW] Bike for Kids Donations Plea

2011-11-03 Thread cyclotourist
Awesome charity, Joe. Don't forget to include a hefty lock with each bike, too! On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Joe Bartoe wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have posted this before, but I wanted to re-send. I am helping out an > effort to raise money for the Santa Ana Boys and Girls Club (California

Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread Steven Frederick
Universal seems to have them... http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=30656&category=2600 and http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=30650&category=2600 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:11 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: > As Allan implied, I thought

[RBW] Atlantis frame

2011-11-03 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Dang Dang Dang.. I was so hoping that it was a 68.. then again my wife is happy it's not. kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread reynoldslugs
Celebrate diversity, get one set of each. I have a couple of sets of Whites and they are fantastic. When I feel like a buzz, I ride the Kings, and I love them too. The eternal debates - - White or King? Mary Anne or Ginger? Betty or Veronica? Either way you won't go wrong. RL -- You receive

Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread cyclotourist
Well, I have some Phils, is that a good start? :-0 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:08 PM, reynoldslugs wrote: > > Celebrate diversity, get one set of each. I have a couple of sets of > Whites and they are fantastic. When I feel like a buzz, I ride the > Kings, and I love them too. > > The eternal de

Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:33 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > Well, I have some Phils, is that a good start?  :-0 > What are you thinking about for rims? I'm debating a set of wheels for a new-to-me AHH that just arrived: white ind mi5-racers + synergy or dyads - any thought one way or the other? I a

RE: [RBW] Bike for Kids Donations Plea

2011-11-03 Thread Joe Bartoe
Definitely. I believe they are getting locks along with everything else. I will double check. Anyone up for building bikes on the 3rd of December in Santa Ana? Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapti

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread Mike
I say go with Shimano XT hubs (135mm spacing on your frame, right?). I've had absolutely no problems with the Shimano hubs I have them on my Hilsen, LHT and CC and they're just great. Dissentingly yours, mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owne

[RBW] Re: Atlantis frame

2011-11-03 Thread Mike
Where were you 6 months ago when I was obsessively lusting for a 64cm Atlantis? --mike On Nov 3, 5:12 pm, muckum wrote: > Anyone in the market for an Atlantis frame 64cm? > Very good condition. > I am considering doing another build on a new frame with my current > components. -- You received

[RBW] build differences in hilsens

2011-11-03 Thread Seth Vidal
I bought a used hilsen from the list and I've been noodling around with it a bit and checking it over. In comparing it to other hilsen frames in pictures online I've noticed a lot of differences. Bottom bracket: This is a 650b waterford hilsen bottom bracket: http://www.flickr.com/photos/western

[RBW] Re: Somewhat esoteric mechanical maneuver. Removing a freehub body from a rear hub

2011-11-03 Thread William
Well my idea worked. I took out the axleset of the hub, and then I put a cassette on, and inserted the hub into a 2" diameter hole I had drilled into the side of my workbench. With a chainwhip in one hand wrapped around the cassette, the 10mm allen wrench in the other I was able to get the ho

[RBW] Re: build differences in hilsens

2011-11-03 Thread Stephen S
The 650b bottom bracket looks alot like my Rambouillet. The 700c bottom bracket looks alot like my Roadeo. Do you happen to know how old the 650b is versus the 700c? Could they have run out of a run of lugs and went to the new style? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread Philip Williamson
I have a set of King-built Bontrager hubs from 1999. They came on the Privateer, and they're one reason I got the startling orange and blue model, and not the Rasta one. The rear hub has been adjusted exactly once, and both hubs still turn like new. They are strong, attractive (to me), with excell

Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread cyclotourist
You and Johnny Otis ! On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd choose a pair of White hubs, but mostly because I lived in > Petaluma for four years, not because I have any experience of them. > > Philip > > P

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread Philip Williamson
There Is No Escaping The Angry Bee. Philip On Nov 3, 3:21 pm, Joe Bartoe wrote: > The answer to the angry bee sound of a King hub is to keep pedaling. Coasting > is for sissies! > > Joe > > Joe Bartoe > > Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. > email: j...@synapticcycles.com > website:www.syna

[RBW] Re: Somewhat esoteric mechanical maneuver. Removing a freehub body from a rear hub

2011-11-03 Thread Philip Williamson
And the video link of you wrasslin' the cobra? I pray I remember this when the time comes... phiilp On Nov 3, 9:24 pm, William wrote: > Well my idea worked.  I took out the axleset of the hub, and then I put a > cassette on, and inserted the hub into a 2" diameter hole I had drilled > into the

[RBW] FS: 700c wheelset, Phil Rivy, Son 28, Synergy, w/ extras

2011-11-03 Thread zybariver
Selling a set of wheels, rear is a Phil Wood Rivy hub 36h, front is a SON 28 classic dyanamo hub 36h, both are laced to Velocity Synergy rims. I believe these are Rich built, but am not positive. Extras include an IRD 13-32 7speed freewheel and Zefal Lock n Roll security skewer for rear wheel; f

[RBW] Re: Question on cartridge BB

2011-11-03 Thread Mark R.
I got one of those, smooth out of the box, felt like a box of rocks after a year and maybe 6k miles, I don't think the seals were good. Maybe just mine, dunno. I have un shimanos that are smooth for well over ten years of hard use. Yep. Mark Howtostretch On Nov 3, 5:58 am, stevef wrote: > Steel

Re: [RBW] Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread bionnaki
go with the White Industries for sure. I love my H3 hub. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:10 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com < cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm considering a fancy new wheelset and am looking at hubs. All > three listed above have great reputations, and are well regarded. > From what I've

[RBW] For Sale: Saluki Frame & Fork 52 cm

2011-11-03 Thread Charlie Carr
This frame and fork are NIB. Its from the first run of Saluki's. Its never been removed from the original box in which it was shipped. I have two head badges for it and will include both in the sale. Price is $ 1,450.00 plus actual shipping cost via FedEx Ground. I will ship on the first Tuesday fo

[RBW] Re: Fancy Hub Conundrum: Chris King vs. White Industries vs. Hope

2011-11-03 Thread jeffrey kane
Steve, I think it's high time you posted some pics of that custom with a little review!!! On Nov 3, 3:25 pm, Steven Frederick wrote: > I have a WI freehub on my 650b custom--it's fantastic.  A very Campy > like buzz-not so loud as some I've heard but not as quiet as Shimano. > Recommended. > >

[RBW] FS: 700c wheelset, Phil Rivy, Son 28, Synergy, w/ extras

2011-11-03 Thread Greg Walton
Rear hub is Phil Rivy 36h, front is SON28 Classic dynamo silver 36h, both laced to Velocity Synergy rims. Also includes an IRD 13-32 7spd freewheel, rear skewer is a Zefal Lock n Roll security model, front is the standard Schmidt 5mm allen. I think these are Rich built wheels, but can't confirm.