I bought a used hilsen from the list and I've been noodling around
with it a bit and checking it over. In comparing it to other hilsen
frames in pictures online I've noticed a lot of differences.

Bottom bracket:

This is a 650b waterford hilsen bottom bracket:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/westerngalebay/6134396595/

This is the 700c waterford hilsen bottom bracket that arrived yesterday:
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/6310742311/


the 650b has the cable routing as part of the bottom bracket
the 700 has a screw on cable routing

The chainstays:
  650b chainstays:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/westerngalebay/6134404921/

  700c chainstays:
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/6311263676/
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/6310742457/

Notice the 700c has indented chainstays for chainring and tire
clearance - the 650b ones have been shaped differently going into the
bottom bracket.
In looking elsewhere on the net I've seen very few with the indented chainstays.


Rear dropouts:
  650b:
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/westerngalebay/6134947052/


  700c:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/6311263676/in/photostream/lightbox/


  Completely different dropouts - the 650b has only one brazeon for
racks/fenders at the dropout - the 700c has 2.

  The 650b's dropouts are obviously not even the same. They remind me
more of the romulus/rambouillet drop outs. In looking at more pictures
online there appear to be 2-3 different rear dropouts in use on hilsen
builds.


I'm sure these differences don't amount to a hill of beans - but I
found it interesting comparing them. Does anyone else notice any other
differences?

-sv

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