on 5/5/10 7:08 PM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
>> You can disparage that as following "impractical race standards" all
>> you want, but the fact of the matter is that lower bar height works
>> better for me.
>
> Not disparaging anything. However, if you read through GP's Readers
> But again, it's just silly to think that Rivendells don't work well with
> drop bars and even lowish drop bars, just as it is silly to imply that
> lowish bars are only for racing.
Perhaps before calling me silly, you may have had the sense to look at
the original post and figure out my point.
Do feel that my Sam Hillborne works well with drop bars. However,
the riding position is eversoslightly longer than I'd call absolute
perfect. But my own setup for bar reach is based on this type of
thinking - http://tinyurl.com/yokuh9
It's the way I did things before was even aware of that Mr.
On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 22:46 -0700, happyriding wrote:
> On May 5, 9:42 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> > I'm glad I got a 56 with the single tt. I can see any reason for two,
> > neither looks nor durability. Odd.
> >
>
> Maybe not on the 56, but as frames get larger they become more
> susceptible to
Hi Grant--thanks for jumping in. I can confirm your statements--I have three
Rivs, a Heron road, a Rambouillet and a Saluki and the seat tube angles and top
tube lengths vary but they all fit the same (very well) with drops. Same bars
(Noodles) and the stem extensions are within a cm of each o
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:46 AM, happyriding wrote:
> On May 5, 9:42 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> > I'm glad I got a 56 with the single tt. I can see any reason for two,
> > neither looks nor durability. Odd.
> >
>
> Maybe not on the 56, but as frames get larger they become more
> susceptible to sh
> Are you contending that the double (or god forbid, triple)
Why God forbid?
I like traditional diamond frames, but triple frames done right look
swell.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retrotec-inglis-cycles/4561446951/
On May 6, 6:11 am, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 22:46 -0700
I love my double-TT Bombadil, and I love that twin top-tubes pisses
everybody off. Moustache bars, lugs, technomic stems, 650b
wheels. Same thing.It's why I like Rivendell.
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No interest at the original price, so depression-era blow-out pricing now!
And I'm not just talking it up, but this stuff is incredibly nice. Super
soft and just a touch thicker than Swobo's current production.
Fantastic condition Swobo sleeveless jersies. Size small (although run a
touch big).
I would say that the double top tube is not completely necessary for
structural integrity. I would just say it looks awesome! Very unique
design, but I agree with newenglandbike that it is like lugs, 650b or
moustache bars, Riv always pushes the boundaries of the normal
definition of what a bike
I think you've hit the nail on the head...
A double top tube is an opportunity for:
More lugs!
On 5/6/2010 8:17 AM, jpp wrote:
I would say that the double top tube is not completely necessary for
structural integrity. I would just say it looks awesome! Very unique
design, but I agree with n
I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My
Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately
28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower
tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this
summer. I gather I cannot g
The important numberfor the rim is the inner width, the spacing between the
inner edges of both bead hooks. To measure it the tire must be off.
Typically a tire shouldn't be less than maybe 8 mm wider than this number or
more than maybe 20 mm wider - I don't know the precise numbers. But it's
de
Wow--I would have thought more. So if I have a 62cm centerpull Saluki
it's probably one of, what, ten? If two batches, maybe one of 20?
Good thing I snapped it up! :)
Rob in Seattle
On May 5, 2010, at 8:07 PM, rob markwardt wrote:
In RR 33 they said the first run was going to be 100 (half
Anyone have a source that can replace a cracked seat stay? I also
need a frame repaint.
Thanks,
Tino Cota
Chicago, Ill
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Oh, to be "On the Road" with:
Sal Paradise and
Dean Moriarty
Joel
On May 5, 9:28 pm, rcnute wrote:
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What part do you live in? It's a big place.
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Taco Truck wrote:
> Anyone have a source that can replace a cracked seat stay? I also
> need a frame repaint.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tino Cota
> Chicago, Ill
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On May 5, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Taco Truck wrote:
Anyone have a source that can replace a cracked seat stay? I also
need a frame repaint.
Try Owen Lloyd at Blue City Cycles, 3201 S. Halsted. Owen is a steel
bike enthusiast and regular attendee at the 3 Speed Tour and the All-
British Cyclin
What is wrong with the answers - and the offered link - you received
on Peter White's site?
On May 5, 5:41 pm, Taco Truck wrote:
> Anyone have a source that can replace a cracked seat stay? I also
> need a frame repaint.
>
> Thanks,
>
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My Atlantis' primary mission is touring, and it's equipped with drop
bars, set about at seat height. I like drops for the variety of hand
positions and ability to sit fairly upright when on the tops as well
as getting low when bucking a headwind. The relationship of seat-
pedals-h'bars was based
Yesterday I recommended Owen to the poster over on the PJW site.
On May 6, 12:37 pm, Tim McNamara wrote:
> On May 5, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Taco Truck wrote:
>
> > Anyone have a source that can replace a cracked seat stay? I also
> > need a frame repaint.
>
> Try Owen Lloyd at Blue City Cycles, 3201
Your serial # is on the BB shell. You know that they made at least THAT many. :)
Mine is 0084.
From: Rob Harrison
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 11:37:17 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki History + Provenance
Wow--I would have th
George:
You mention taking your Atlantis on a road trip. Is this a bke tour
or are you taking the bike along with you on a vehicle trip? Think
about what you're going to use the bike for and whether you need to
ride it every day to get where you are going. Those constraints are
important in you
Good point! I'll have to look when the bike arrives. I was thinking,
out of say 200 Salukis, there might be only 20 or so in 62cm.
Rob in Seattle
On May 6, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bruce wrote:
Your serial # is on the BB shell. You know that they made at least
THAT many. :)
Mine is 0084.
From
The cliffhanger is one of the widest rims around at 28mm outside
width. I would not ride anything narrower than a 32mm tire on a rim
that wide. Since it's only available in 26 in. rims that would equate
to a 1.25 wide tire. I don't have any bikes in that size but I think
there are not many roadish
on 5/6/10 10:48 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
> Yesterday I recommended Owen to the poster over on the PJW site.
He's a new user and therefore moderated. From the time stamp on his actual
post, he probably posted both at the same time. Just a busy week for me, so
I didn't pass
"I duuno. The fat Ti tubes on a small frame just don't do it for me."
The Strada Bianca is a custom frame. You can have it built out of
steel, Ti or aluminum. You could really address most aesthetic issues
in your choice of materials.
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On May 5, 8:40 pm, SFF wrote:
> Oh, to be "On the Road" with:
> Sal Paradise and
> Dean Moriarty
>
> Joel
Yes!
Gnossos Pappadopoulis and Ignasius P. Reilly would be other good names
from literature.
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> He's a new user and therefore moderated. From the time stamp on his actual
> post, he probably posted both at the same time. Just a busy week for me, so
> I didn't pass it through until today.
My bad. Thanks for clearing this up. Sorry Tino.
On May 6, 2:02 pm, CycloFiend wrote:
> on 5/6/10
or J.J. Yossarian
On May 6, 12:31 pm, Mike wrote:
> On May 5, 8:40 pm, SFF wrote:
>
> > Oh, to be "On the Road" with:
> > Sal Paradise and
> > Dean Moriarty
>
> > Joel
>
> Yes!
>
> Gnossos Pappadopoulis and Ignasius P. Reilly would be other good names
> from literature.
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I know it's custom and can have in anyway you want. Hampston makes
some beautuful bikes. I just think the fat Ti tubes look out of place
on a small frame, nothing more.
My comment on the size of the market was purely a philisophical
statement about the sad fact that most cyclists would not buy it
Hampsten seems to be trying to build that market or at least serve
what little crossover there may be between race-oriented riders and
off-road ramblers. They recently released a model called Crema, which
is a tig-welded production frame based on the Strada Bianca geometry.
And with the straight-bl
I've done this route before (actually San Jose to Santa Barbara). Just get a
AAA map and ride the roads that parallel 101. They are great. I like this
valley a lot (home of East of Eden). King City has a bunch of in-expensive
motels and lots of good Mexican resturants. Good luck and have fun!
Jeff
Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius!
I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though.
Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike?
LaToya Jackson, for a women's bike.
There's only so much time, only so many lugs.
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I appreciate all of the great info about this great bike. I wonder if
anyone knows where to find information about the naming. Was this a
favorite dog of Grant's or did the name make reference to a literary
dog? This could be another vein for names...Airedale, Springer,
Retriever for a grocery b
I got a girl in the Castle and one in the pagoda
You know I got rhymes like Abe Vigoda
On May 6, 1:45 pm, Grant Petersen wrote:
> Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius!
>
> I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though.
>
> Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike?
>
> LaToya Jack
LaToya Jackson? I get it, but yeesh... Plastique Fantastique. One
scary women, is she.
How about a lugged frameset with a "S" curved downtube that has a
removable top tube via S&S couplers to convert it to a Mixte:
The removable TT is decal'd with "Chazz Bono"; the downtube is decal'd
with "Cha
Other classics from literature:
Buck Mulligan
Queequeg
Really, both Ulysses and Moby Dick are rife with possibilities. Anyone
for a 'Pequod'?
Shawn
On May 6, 12:44 pm, William wrote:
> or J.J. Yossarian
>
> On May 6, 12:31 pm, Mike wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 5, 8:40 pm, SFF wrote:
>
> > > O
LaToya Jackson? Maybe for a carbon fibre whip. I get it though, but
yeesh... Plastique Fantastique. One
scary woman, is she.
How about a lugged frameset with a "S" curved downtube that has a
removable top tube via S&S couplers to convert it to a Mixte:
The removable TT is decal'd with "Chazz B
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Shakesbiker wrote:
> I appreciate all of the great info about this great bike. I wonder if
> anyone knows where to find information about the naming. Was this a
> favorite dog of Grant's or did the name make reference to a literary
> dog? This could be another ve
New name for women's mixte:
Granny Wrinkle Toes
Man, I bet that one would sell like hotcakes.
> From: Me
> Reply-To:
> Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 14:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
>
> LaToya Jackson? Maybe for a carbon fib
I'm hoping for a Capt. Spaulding -- a bike fit for an African
explorer.
On May 6, 1:59 pm, soapscum wrote:
> Other classics from literature:
>
> Buck Mulligan
> Queequeg
>
> Really, both Ulysses and Moby Dick are rife with possibilities. Anyone
> for a 'Pequod'?
>
> Shawn
>
> On May 6, 12:44 pm,
It's always worthwhile to consult Sheldon Brown
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
On May 6, 11:59 am, Michael_S wrote:
> The cliffhanger is one of the widest rims around at 28mm outside
> width. I would not ride anything narrower than a 32mm tire on a rim
> that wide. Since it's only
The Rivendell Saluki was named for the dog, a strong, swift runner over
varied terrain. An attractive canine, it looks kind of like a long-haired
greyhound. I remember no more detail about Grant¹s intent.
I had the privilege of designing the decals and badges for it under the
direction of John Pri
I saw that on their website... very nice bike and perfect for that
market.
Chris King also has a similar semi-production model called Ceilo
Sportif http://cielo.chrisking.com/bikes/sportif-details/
that fits that in that market niche too.
I'm hoping that these builders can develop that market a
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 14:11 -0700, Jim M. wrote:
> I'm hoping for a Capt. Spaulding -- a bike fit for an African
> explorer.
Wouldn't that be Schnorrer?
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Tino, there's a lot of overlap between RBW, BL, and (in case you don't know
it yet) Internet BOB. Same really for Classic Rendezvous, but your question
would be marginally appropriate over there due to the rules, it tries hard
to stick to pre-1984 upper end road bikes. You've got a few good input
I believe Sheldon cautioned us to use the inner rim width to assess tire
suitability, not the outer.
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Mitch Browne wrote:
> It's always worthwhile to consult Sheldon Brown
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
>
> On May 6, 11:59 am, Michael_S wrote:
> >
Of course inner width is important, but there is a close relationship
between inner and outer widths. and most manufacturers quote outside
width only so "ya use what ya got". Sheldon's charts by the way
only address the large end of the equation. that is... how big can
you go.
~Mike~
On May
Thanks for posting that link to Dave Moulton's thoughts on TT/stem
length. Fascinating. I think this explains why, at 6' - 2" and size
10.5 shoes (small for my height) I prefer a shorter stem
Hope I can get my 62cm Saluki (sized right for PBH) set up properly.
Rob in Seattle
On May 6,
For any given rim there is a precise relationship between inner and outer
width and it can be easily measured as exactly as one likes, but I'm not
sure how consistent the relationship is across all rim types. Granted, you
use what you have as do I. Understanding the distinction is important for
c
Christine:
+1 for the coast over the inland route, but between the Monterey
Hostel and M-6 in San Simeon there are no inexpensive lodgings, and
about 120 miles of riding.
I came north on the inland route a couple of years ago. Routes
paralleling 101 are easy but there is one stretch around a mil
Needs to have a big front basket as standard equipment.
Grant, don't underestimate the number of lugs out here in cyberspace.
dougP
On May 6, 2:08 pm, Dustin Sharp wrote:
> New name for women's mixte:
>
> Granny Wrinkle Toes
>
> Man, I bet that one would sell like hotcakes.
>
>
>
>
>
> > From:
My daughters would never ride a bike that had LaToya Jackson on the down
tube or anywhere else...
I'm not going to suggest any names, but names that polarize people so
radically should be avoided. If you ask me, my preference is for Greek
female names or names of planets.
René
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"Hooray, hooray, hooray!"
"One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my
pajamas I'll never know."
Bike naming - for the really big frames - Fezzik.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On May 6, 4:37�pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 14:11 -0700, Jim M. wrote:
> > I'm
Well and good. But gotta draw the line at Uranus.
Another great name - P. Caspar Biddle.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On May 6, 7:12�pm, Rene Sterental wrote:
> My daughters would never ride a bike that had LaToya Jackson on the down
> tube or anywhere else...
>
> I'm not going to suggest any names
As long as you spell it correctly... I believe it is "Dick Van
PattEn".
How 'bout "John Rhys Davies"? Didn't he voice Treebeard and play
Gimli?
"You'll have to toss me!"
TLS
who anxiously awaits with assonance an Abe Vigoda frameset
On May 6, 3:45 pm, Grant Petersen wrote:
> Abe Vigoda and Dic
"Rocinante" would be pretty awesome—the name of Don Quixote's horse,
and John Steinbeck's camper in "Travels with Charley."
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An actual gender-agnostic mixte: the "Pastorale"
On May 5, 1:20 pm, Bridgestone wrote:
> "Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike"
>
> 10. Travelino
>
> 9. Henri Torres
>
> 8. Vagabondo
>
> 7. Hugonaut
>
> 6. Velocipes
>
> 5. Navigador
>
> 4. Luis Rotundus
>
> 3. F. Murray Abraham
>
> 2. Uniped
how about..
Chautauqua (for a long haul country/sport/touring)
Mountain Goat (for a 29er single speed)
Bonnie / Clyde (for hers/his 29er mixtes)
Be Seeing You (for a penny-farthing or 96er)
Cutter (in the same family as a Rodeo, but more fun to beat out of town carbon
racers with)
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I can't resist, and I fear I'm getting in late in the game. But a bike for tall
people must be named:
Mo Udall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Udall
-Jim W.
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The bold text must have been the trick... that and dropping the price by
~50%
All items are sold pending payment!
THANKS!
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:51 AM, cyclotourist wrote:
> No interest at the original price, so depression-era blow-out pricing now!
> And I'm not just talking it up, but this
Interesting observation: There were several responders, but all were guys
interested in it for their S.O.s. None of the ibob/RBW lady-folk jumped at
this once in a lifetime opportunity.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:08 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
> The bold text must have
You make me so happy today.
http://popup.lala.com/popup/432627056448446248
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:57 PM, William wrote:
> I got a girl in the Castle and one in the pagoda
> You know I got rhymes like Abe Vigoda
>
> On May 6, 1:45 pm, Grant Petersen wrote:
> > Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton
FTR, wasn't Sirius.
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For a mixte.Emmeline Pankhurst
On May 6, 2010, at 8:46 PM, andrew hill wrote:
how about..
Chautauqua (for a long haul country/sport/touring)
Mountain Goat (for a 29er single speed)
Bonnie / Clyde (for hers/his 29er mixtes)
Be Seeing You (for a penny-farthing or 96er)
Cutter (in the sa
How about stealing a name from a guy I actually know and once worked with:
Roscoe Sweeny?
From: EricP
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 5:24:12 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
Well and good. But gotta draw the line
"Rocinante" would be pretty awesome—the name of Don Quixote's horse,
and John Steinbeck's camper in "Travels with Charley."
That's the name of my touring bike. 'Cept I spell it differently.
On May 6, 8:31 pm, Annette Lein wrote:
> For a mixte.Emmeline Pankhurst
>
> On May 6, 2010, at 8:46 PM
I once had a girlfriend who bought a rattle-can black no-label bike she
named Boo Radley.
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On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Chris Cullum wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:10 PM, cyclotourist
> wrote:
> > Interesting observation: There were several responders, but all were
> guys
> > interested in it for their S.O.s. None of the ibob/RBW lady-folk jumped
> at
> > this once in a lifeti
Rocinante, or Rose, was the name of Dervla Murphy's bike in "Full
Tilt", IIRC. Dervla would also be a great bike name and a suitable
honor.
On May 6, 7:29 pm, Bridgestone wrote:
> "Rocinante" would be pretty awesome—the name of Don Quixote's horse,
> and John Steinbeck's camper in "Travels with
Looking to buy a Nitto Noodle bar 48cm.If anyone is interested in
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1- pair of lightly used Vittoria 700x32c Randonneur Pro folding
tires, double shielding, reflective sidewalls.$40.00 shipped.
1-Selle Anatomica saddle in black w. copper rivits standard model no
slot or watershed.$65.00 shipped
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http://www.publicbikes.com/
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have no name. Just a moniker-free headbadge.
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On May 6, 1:57 pm, William wrote:
> I got a girl in the Castle and one in the pagoda
> You know I got rhymes like Abe Vigoda
Word. I think I actually think of the Beastie Boys first and Fish
second when I hear his name.
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An undeniably cool name and worthy woman to commemorate, but perhaps a
mixed message for a bike. At least one biographer quotes her as saying
to her daughter:
"You must not ride too much on your bicycle."
See (p. 52):
http://books.google.com/books?id=ksUh2lIpcGYC&pg=PA52&dq=Emmeline+Pankhurst+bi
ok, so this Bomba i have is pretty lovely, but i'm at a loss as to how all the
eyelets and screwintoable bits there are on the fork could best be used.
i've got no racks currently.. would just having a front one affect the
handling adversely? assuming smallish front panniers or a top bag, 80%
Yeah, but I'm pouring it on anyway. I'm going to call Rivendell and demand the
following:
"Pon Farr"
What is it? I know some of you know. If not:
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Pon_farr
-Jim W. (LLAP)
p.s. It could say LLAP on the headbadge or seat decal maybe.
-Original Message
FTR, The Faithful have a tendency to believe you. That's gotta drive
you crazy.
On May 6, 6:18 pm, Grant Petersen wrote:
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