My Atlantis' primary mission is touring, and it's equipped with drop
bars, set about at seat height.  I like drops for the variety of hand
positions and ability to sit fairly upright when on the tops as well
as getting low when bucking a headwind.  The relationship of seat-
pedals-h'bars was based on my previous bike but of course has been
adjusted over time (age will do that to you).  The 58 & 61 Atlantis
overlap my PBH so I went 58, knowing I could make it bigger easier
than smaller.  Only minor adjustment of stem & seat post height were
needed to get it comfy.  When I'm on the bike all day, every day on a
tour, it's important to be able to change position, sit up, etc. to
keep comfortable.  Of course, stopping for coffee & photos helps a lot
too.

Occassionally I think about a flat bar for ease of packing & shipping
the bike, but am reluctant to give up the positioning variety of
drops.  Judging by the variety of set-ups on cyclofiend's site, Rivs
are pretty adaptable, with about any bar you can name being used by
someone.

dougP

On May 6, 5:57 am, "Frederick, Steve" <frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu>
wrote:
> Hi Grant--thanks for jumping in.  I can confirm your statements--I have three 
> Rivs, a Heron road, a Rambouillet and a Saluki and the seat tube angles and 
> top tube lengths vary but they all fit the same (very well) with drops.  Same 
> bars (Noodles) and the stem extensions are within a cm of each other...
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Grant Petersen
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 5:54 PM
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [RBW] Riv frames work great with drop bars
>
> > It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells
> > frames are not designed for drop bars.  With the long top tubes you
> > need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach.
>
> UnSo! Terribly, terrifically unso.
>
> The Top Tube Ruse in RR--40/ 41? talked all about that, but I realize people 
> come and go and land late and may skip over or miss, but basically, it's like 
> this. Forgive lack of detail in these explanations:
>
> Shallow seat tubes neutralize long top tubes. We have shallow seat tubes.
>
> Higher bars super-'eutralize long top tubes. We're the Cosmos champs in that 
> cat.
>
> As bars get higher, your arms become more horizontal, and that makes them 
> longer (effectively, not literally).
>
> Tall quill stems always help, but with our bikes--as much as I likem & we 
> gottem, they're less necessary than they are with a '73 Colnago, or '84 
> Centurion Ironman, etc.
>
> I cannot image more drop-bar friendly bikes than ours. I wouldn't design a 
> bike that wouldn't work fine with a drop. With appropriate-sized stems for 
> the size.
>
> Granted, my personal Sam is a 60 with a 7stem, and that's borderline funky, 
> but that's on a 62.5 top tube, and I'm a mere 5-9.9.
>
> G
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