[RBW] questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top

Hi, I recently posted about picking up a nitto big front rack..and while I still may do that, I am now wondering if there is any way I could leave my mini-front rack on my S.H. which has mid fork eyelets brazed on and still use some sort of low-rider pannier mounts that could be useful in an upcomi

[RBW] Re: questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top

Do you mean like this? http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253...@n00/3905485108/in/pool-classicbicycles On Mar 4, 7:55 am, jandrews_nyc wrote: > Hi, > I recently posted about picking up a nitto big front rack..and while I > still may do that, > I am now wondering if there is any way I could leave

[RBW] Re: questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top

yes, thats it.. You're bike? do you find it's OK to do that to the braze-ons? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email

[RBW] Re: My "old" Hillborne

Great story, great looking bike. Welcome to the group. Keep pictures and ride reports coming. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

I recall Grant's early post on the then up-coming Roadeo saying 6-4-6 for the main triangle, and I assume he was talking about a size that fit him - maybe a 58cm? That would certainly make for a "lively" ride! I have a 54cm Rambouillet, and I too think it is overbuilt for spirited riding. In fac

[RBW] Which Handlebar Bag?

Here's what I think I want for my Atlantis which is set up as a day bike (recently posted more Flickr pics under username ahurvitz)... hammered honjos, shellacked bars, Pasela's. A smallish handlebar bag for day rides. I have a Keven on the saddle where I keep tools, lock, mini-pump, etc. I'm look

Re: [RBW] Which Handlebar Bag?

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Buck wrote: > > I want it to be at least as classy as the Keven. The new Sackville > BarSack looks great, but it's larger than I want and requires the > Nitto decaleur. And that makes it $200, which is too much. I actually > bought a BrandV Barbox, and it was about

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

-- Forwarded message -- From: "gr...@rivbike.com" Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some) To: RBW Owners Bunch > Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO<---final name, final spelling, thanks for all your input and don't take offense. > This is really Mark's bike, b

[RBW] Re: My "old" Hillborne

Thanks for the story Ray nice setup on the Sam-like the bar tape and the "final" bag set up On Mar 3, 9:38 pm, Way Rebb wrote: > Hello, > > You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this.  I thought I'd > share some pics of my "old" Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait, > the pics, skip

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rondo.

I need to confirm but I recall it is a 6cm. Shortened reach when I adjested my saddle aft. On Mar 3, 4:16 pm, Dustin Sharp wrote: > Looks great! > > How long is that stem? > > Dustin> From: muckum > > Reply-To: > > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:10:46 -0800 (PST) > > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > Subject

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rondo.

That would be adjusted. On Mar 4, 8:03 am, muckum wrote: > I need to confirm but I recall it is a 6cm. Shortened reach when I > adjested my saddle aft. > > On Mar 3, 4:16 pm, Dustin Sharp wrote: > > > > > Looks great! > > > How long is that stem? > > > Dustin> From: muckum > > > Reply-To: > >

[RBW] Old Nitto CrMo Bullmoose bars on ebay

http://tinyurl.com/y8tr9a9 No connection, don't know seller, but thought someone here might be interested. Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To un

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rondo.

à la votre to you and your fine rig. Looks cushy. On Mar 3, 7:53 pm, Esteban wrote: > Cheers to your Frenchy-fied > Riv:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4309012429/sizes/l/ > > Esteban > San Diego, Calif. > > On Mar 3, 4:10 pm, muckum wrote: > > > > > Wanted to share a few recent "twee

Re: [RBW] My "old" Hillborne

Nice bike, nice story, great pictures and good notes on the pictures. The notes really help to show the defelopment of the bike and rig. Makes me ( in snowy Massachusetts ) long for the ability to get out and ride. I am not as hardy (crazy?) as the guys from Minnesota or Vermont, who ride during

Re: [RBW] Which Handlebar Bag?

on 3/4/10 7:25 AM, Buck at ahurv...@gmail.com wrote: > Plan B is to have a friend make one out of waxed cotton. And that got > me thinking... how come no one makes a bag that's about 10x5x5 and can > accommodate a small map case? I'm asking because my fear is that I'll > figure that out once it's

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

Thanks for that! Remember the brochures for the Ram & Rom? They were described as go anywhere road bikes, with photos of the bikes off road. And many of us have discovered, the Ram/Rom can take a lickin' off road. I'm not sure I'd do the same with a Roadeo, which is made for the road. This bei

[RBW] Re: questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top

I am running the Nitto M12 + Tubus duo lowrider racks, I can add or remove the duo's in about 15 minutes for a camping trip or a brevet, depending on what kind of ride i'm doing. So far, it has been a pretty versatile setup. I have never used a big-rack, so I can't make a direct comparison, but

[RBW] Re: Which Handlebar Bag?

> I do like my Zugster Rando bag (10x8x8"), as it keeps everything covered and > leaves room for food and bulkier (wintery) clothing layers. Way to drive it home to us folks who are five months into a possible three year wait ;) They do appear to be great bags anyway. On Mar 4, 10:43 am, CycloFi

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

Thanks for finding that... 8/6/8 for the larger sizes makes sense. Now, for the last piece of the puzzle - and for the prize cigar and kewpie doll - did Grant ever post the tubeset thicknesses for the Rambouillet? I looked back in old Readers and couldn't locate anything. On Mar 4, 7:31 am, Horac

[RBW] FS: Riv hat

I have a wool Rivendell cycling hat in orange. Very cool looking but does not fit my fat head. $15 covers hat and shipping to CONUS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@google

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

I remember from this post that most of Rivendell's frames are 8/5/8: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/9b63d62ffd368e31/829ef6df4ed06b49?q=#829ef6df4ed06b49 Which makes it seem strange that the larger sizes of the Roadeo would be 8/6/8- since that would make i

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

>From this post a little while ago, most of Rivendell's frames have 8/5/8 for the main triangle: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/... Which makes it seem strange, that the larger sizes of the Roadeo would be 8/6/8- since that would make it beefier than their

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

>From this post from a little while ago it seems that most Rivendell frames have 8/5/8 main triangle tubes: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/9b63d62ffd368e31/829ef6df4ed06b49?q=#829ef6df4ed06b49 Which makes it seem strange that the Roadeo would have 8/6/8 tubin

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

Didn't someone mention earlier that the tubes on the larger Roadeos are the same if not beefier than the Rambos? If so, I'm not sure why so much is being made of it being a light bike that isn't designed for any kind of a load whatsoever. > From: newenglandbike > Reply-To: > Date: Thu, 4 Mar

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

Things to consider when overthinking the relationship between the tube cross sections in relation to a bike's ride and the physical abilities of the frame. I am speeking from my own conclusions in progress, based on armchair engineering and too much re-reading of BQ. Bicyle frames while appearing

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

An excellent overview, Rob. After the Roadeo is assembled, I'll do a triple-non-blind study, as follows: Take the Rambouillet, Legolas, and Roadeo to the hill (about 5 miles, 2100'). Over the course of 3 - 4 hours, ride each bike up and down the hill. Do it again three days later, riding the bik

[RBW] Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?

Anyone try this, or know of anyone who has? Looking for a picture if possible. I'm having an old frame fitted with the Paul Racer braze ons, and wanted a rack up there too. The rack may end up being a custom, or a modified stainless rack from somewhere else. Just not sure if the special Paul bolts

[RBW] Re: Which Handlebar Bag?

Buck: The Barbox is about as big as you can go with a direct h'bar mount. I'd be inclined to try to work with that, maybe with mods as suggested above. The Acorn one looks quite nice (I have their boxy rando bag & love it; takes a rack, tho) - you just have to haunt their site & jump on it when t

[RBW] Re: My "old" Hillborne

Awesome story Ray. I think most people on this form felt the same way about Rivendell. I know i do. On Mar 3, 9:38 pm, Way Rebb wrote: > Hello, > > You folks seem like a fun group who might enjoy this.  I thought I'd > share some pics of my "old" Sam Hillborne…but first a story…no wait, > the pic

[RBW] Re: questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top

JS: My Atlantis came with no front eyelets ('03). I use the Nitto M-12 & an Acorn boxy rando all the time, and add an old Blackburn low rider set-up for tours. I added eyelets a while back, a dedicated pair for each rack. Works well except the Blackburn seems a bit flimsy (it's aluminum & bolts

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rondo.

Needs more luggagenice attachment for the lights. The only time my Atlantis looks that clean is before I hang everything back on it after a trip. Maybe I should pack lighter for day rides? "the pack rat" On Mar 3, 4:10 pm, muckum wrote: > Wanted to share a few recent "tweeks" to the Atlant

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

And for bonus points, does anyone have an idea of the thicknesses on my '90 RB-1? The brochure just says Ishiwata 022E quad-butted. I'm curious. :) -nathan On Mar 4, 2010, at 9:11 AM, reynoldslugs wrote: Thanks for finding that... 8/6/8 for the larger sizes makes sense. Now, for the last

[RBW] Re: FS: Riv hat

I believe this has been sold. On Mar 4, 12:17 pm, johnb wrote: > I have a wool Rivendell cycling hat in orange. Very cool looking but > does not fit my fat head. $15 covers hat and shipping to CONUS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?

I ordered a new Coho Randonneuse with exactly that set up. Chuck made a custom rack for the bike that fits on the special Paul bolts and some lower rack mounts on the front forks. I can't take a picture because I had to have the fork ID honed ( tubing defect) and it's on its way back to me. Seem

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

According to the table here, Ishiwata 002 it is 9/6/9: http://www.vintage-trek.com/refurbish.htm The Ishiwata in the table doesn't have the qualifier "E" after the number; I don't know whether it's the same thing as the 002E of the RB-1. On Mar 4, 11:30 am, nathan spindel wrote: > And for bonus

[RBW] 59cm XO-3 on ebay

There's a 59cm 1993 XO-3 on ebay. It's super cheap as of right now with 3 days to go. I'd love to get a 55 for myself to set up as a city bike. There's not much stock on this one, if anything, but the XO-3 spec wasn't anything to write home about anyway: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?View

[RBW] Re: Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?

On Mar 4, 1:21 pm, Marty wrote: > Anyone try this, or know of anyone who has? Looking for a picture if > possible. I'm having an old frame fitted with the Paul Racer braze > ons, and wanted a rack up there too. The rack may end up being a > custom, or a modified stainless rack from somewhere else.

Re: [RBW] 59cm XO-3 on ebay

This one might be a 55: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/1584917370.html (local to me in STL) --dlloyd On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 14:09, William wrote: > There's a 59cm 1993 XO-3 on ebay. It's super cheap as of right now > with 3 days to go. I'd love to get a 55 for myself to set up as a > cit

[RBW] Re: 59cm XO-3 on ebay

Thanks for the link. That's a 1992 XO-2. Not lugged, not Japanese. Not a great bike, IMO. We closed those bikes out in 1992 for $220. The thought of paying $250 for one 18 years later is beyond absurd to me. That one is much smaller than a 55cm also. Probably a 48. Again, thanks for the effort

[RBW] Re: Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?

That Hufnagel is HOT HOT HOT. On Mar 4, 12:28 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: > On Mar 4, 1:21 pm, Marty wrote: > > > Anyone try this, or know of anyone who has? Looking for a picture if > > possible. I'm having an old frame fitted with the Paul Racer braze > > ons, and wanted a rack up there too. The

[RBW] Re: Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?

TA used to make swell little racks that attached to the Mafac brake braze ons and through the center brake hole. This worked for lighter weights, but would not be as stable as something that attaches to the brake braze ons then to the drop outs, or a separate set of braze ons further down the fork

[RBW] Re: questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top

Nope, but this one is: http://gspiess.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/touring-setup-007.jpg Nashbar front rack with Blackburn lowriders. I was going to get a Jandd Extreme front rack eventually, but this setup has worked flawlessly, all for $20. But of course, if I was camping with a Riv, I'd prob

[RBW] Re: Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?

Thanks all. Looks like I can safely commit to the brake and fork braze- ons and add a rack later. Marty On Mar 4, 4:02 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > TA used to make swell little racks that attached to the Mafac brake > braze ons and through the center brake hole.  This worked for lighter > weights,

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

On Mar 4, 1:02 pm, rperks wrote: > It is common knowledge that a surly cross check is overbuilt as a > cross bike. Where does the Legolas fit in? How far is a Roadeo from > a Legolas? or a Sachs for that matter? and what kind of abuses is one > willing to put into the bike with respect to repla

[RBW] Re: Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?

On Mar 4, 4:12 pm, Marty wrote: > Thanks all. Looks like I can safely commit to the brake and fork braze- > ons and add a rack later. Just be aware that with this set-up, the mounting point for the rack ends up being a little further off the fork braze-ons than normal - something to consider when

Re: [RBW] Front Rack with Paul Racer Braze-ons?

You could also go the route of a custom Pass & Stow rack like so: . It's custom made to fit around Paul canti brakes on a Quickbeam. -nathan On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Marty wrote: > Anyone try this, or know of anyone who has? Looking

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

On Mar 4, 1:19 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: > > a sachs cx frame weighs about 3.5 lbs.  i get to see a lot of his cx > bikes in action and they are ridden *hard.*   riding tubies at 30psi > helps to soften things up a bit and take the edge off the rough stuff > - but still, i think it's proof that a h

[RBW] roadeo, first ride

i rode my new roadeo on its maiden voyage. just a super bike. 40mi., rolling hills around plymouth, ca. build as follows: 59cm roadeo, mary's blue campy chorus aluminum 10spd brifters, centaur derailleurs nitto pearl stem, 44 noodles, nitto stainless

[RBW] Re: roadeo, first ride

Now that you are bored of it, can I have it? I wouldn't change a thing. Not a single thing. On Mar 4, 4:32 pm, dpco wrote: > i rode my new roadeo on its maiden voyage. just a super bike. 40mi., > rolling hills around plymouth, ca. > build as follows: 59cm roadeo, mary's blue >                  

Re: [RBW] roadeo, first ride

Any idea how much it weighs, Don? In a message dated 3/4/2010 7:33:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net writes: i rode my new roadeo on its maiden voyage. just a super bike. 40mi., rolling hills around plymouth, ca. build as follows: 59cm roadeo, mary's blue campy chor

[RBW] WTB Nitto DirtDrop/Technomic Standard stem

I'm looking to buy a Nitto DirtDrop 10cm stem or a Nitto Technomic Standard 8-9cm stem (26.0 clamp). Surprisingly, RBW has neither in stock right now. -nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] Re: roadeo, first ride

to be fair, my build is not particularly light. with my old style look pedals, the bike weighs 22.8 lbs. if i went with full record, threadless stem, light bars, light wheels, and some race saddle, it would be 18-19 lbs. but, i don't ride against a clock. on our club rides we go fast for short per

Re: [RBW] WTB Nitto DirtDrop/Technomic Standard stem

Not mine. http://austin.craigslist.org/bik/1628839826.html -- Jon ³Papa² Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 From: nathan spindel Reply-To: Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:28:34 -0800 To: , internet-bob Subject: [RBW] WTB Nitto DirtDrop/Technom

[RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

On Mar 4, 7:01 pm, benzzoy wrote: > Are the Sachs race bikes replaced annually?   I don't think so. New framesets for new team members, of course - but each rider gets 2 bikes (one for the pit!), and there's no reason to replace annually unless one fails. the columbus spirit for lugs (aka "peg

[RBW] Re: questions about a low-rider rack while still using a mini-front on top

JS, I'm running a Nitto Mark's Rack, with a Tubus Nova "over the top" on the same mid-fork braze-on, on my nubster. Works just fine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151...@n07/4339719394/in/set-72157623375460150/ Have fun! Alex Moll Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subs

[RBW] Complete!

Finally finished it building it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407972696/in/pool-rivendell Rivendell Rambouillet, 60cm Shimano parts: Dura-Ace Octalink crank 53/39/30 XTR triple BB Ultegra front triple derailler XT rear long cage derailler XT 11-32 9sp cassette Ultegra h

[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407871186/in/pool-rivendell/ Saddlebag is an Acorn medium/large bag Park MTB-7 multi tool Park CT-5 chain tool Park SW-7 spoke wrench Park TL-1 tire lever set Rema patch kit Boeshield T9 two inner tubes three spare chain pins red/blue two-sided bandana

[RBW] roadeo forks

some of you guys subscribe to jan heine's bicycle quarterly. in one edition, he described different forks, specifically blades. he mentioned " imperial oval". i noticed that the fork crown on my roadeo is narrower than the crown on my ram. but the fork blades are very ovalized. i have to reiterate,

[RBW] Re: Complete!

Leslie, Beautiful job. Do you know the width of your BB? Also, what's the tape used on your handbars and formula (shellac / coats) used in getting the look. Can you post some close ups when convenient? I'm 2-3 weeks away from putting together my Atlantis and am interested in details. Finally,

[RBW] Re: Complete!

I got the crank from here on the list; it was an Octalink crank, I needed an Octalink V1 BB; I wanted an Ultegra, but those are NLA. Because I have a triple crank, I went with a triple BB. The XTR is 116.5; however, the DA and 105 BB is 118. I would suggest the 105's instead; I had to put bo

[RBW] Re: roadeo forks

Photos, Don, Photos! Bill On Mar 4, 7:44 pm, dpco wrote: > some of you guys subscribe to jan heine's bicycle quarterly. in one > edition, he described different forks, specifically blades. he > mentioned " imperial oval". i noticed that the fork crown on my roadeo > is narrower than the crown on

[RBW] Re: roadeo forks

yeah i know, they are forthcoming. you guys are a tough nut. don c. On Mar 4, 8:38 pm, "Bill M." wrote: > Photos, Don, Photos! > > Bill > > On Mar 4, 7:44 pm, dpco wrote: > > > > > some of you guys subscribe to jan heine's bicycle quarterly. in one > > edition, he described different forks, spec

[RBW] JAck Brons and Honjo 43mm?

Has any body here pushed the limits? What is the tightest fender a Jack Brown has been squeezed into? Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscrib

[RBW] Re: JAck Brons and Honjo 43mm?

Good God, I should not type anything right before bed, sorry for the spelling On Mar 4, 9:24 pm, rperks wrote: > Has any body here pushed the limits?  What is the tightest fender a > Jack Brown has been squeezed into? > > Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: JAck Brons and Honjo 43mm?

On Mar 4, 9:24 pm, rperks wrote: > > Has any body here pushed the limits?  What is the tightest fender a > Jack Brown has been squeezed into? I have 43mm fluted Honjos that are covering Jack Browns. The fit is quite tight but I haven't had any rubbing or snagging issues in hundreds of miles of r

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo

Does this mean that a Roadeo has at least an extra half a pound of overly stout tubing? Or does the weight savings on the Sachs frames come from other things? I mean, all those baroque touches on Riv lugs must weigh something, right? ;) > > a sachs cx frame weighs about 3.5 lbs. i get to see

[RBW] Re: My "old" Hillborne

Thank you all for the kind words. It was fun putting the post together. I'm not a real big internet gabber but I've been following this groups adventures for a couple of months and figured what the heck. I think the bike is about finished. Very reliable low maintenance transportation which is wh

[RBW] Re: For Sale 64cm A. Homer Hilsen

To help get the right geometry info, can you tell us if this frame is supposed to be the 63 or the 65cm? There doesn't seem to be a 64 AHH. Oliver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne

[RBW] Re: Complete!

Go green Rambo's! Does anyone have a rough timeline for when the three different colored models were produced? Rob "http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2766/4383522461_bf22af47af.jpg"; Markwardt On Mar 4, 7:15 pm, Leslie wrote: > Finally finished it building it. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lesl

Re: [RBW] Re: Complete!

Or how about green without Hilsen/Saluki-like details or green with Hilsen/Saluki-like details? Hilsen/Saluki-like details = those lugs plus the eyelets on fork and seatstay for mini-racks. There was a last little batch of Rams with those details, making the rest of us Ram owners slightly envi