Thanks for finding that... 8/6/8 for the larger sizes makes sense.
Now, for the last piece of the puzzle - and for the prize cigar and
kewpie doll - did Grant ever post the tubeset thicknesses for the
Rambouillet?  I looked back in old Readers and couldn't locate
anything.

On Mar 4, 7:31 am, Horace <max...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
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>
> From: "gr...@rivbike.com" <grantmill...@gmail.com>
>
> Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm
>
> Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some)
>
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
>
> > Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO<---final name, final spelling, thanks
>
> for all your input and don't take offense.
>
> > This is really Mark's bike, by which I mean he asked for it/suggested
>
> it as a bike for clubbies. He's a club rider a couple of days a week,
>
> and rides his cross bikes--which to me are light enough, at 19-20lb,
>
> even with fatty tires (and he's still the fastest by a good margin,
>
> and the humblest). But he sees his fellow clubbies buying road bikes
>
> with carbon this and that, and was thinking hmm, they should get a
>
> nice lugged steel bike, and if we made it light enough and roadynuff
>
> they probably would.
>
> Originally,'twas gunnabe for short reach brakes, but nobody here
>
> really rides with those anymore, so, with some input from Jay's,
>
> they'll use standard reach brakes, which means...about 56mm reach,
>
> about like the 'bouillet.
>
> TUBING: The goal is a clubbie bike, so it's going to be clubbie light,
>
> and it should, ideally, be ridding by somebody who is, if not clubbie
>
> light, at least knows how to ride light. A Nureyev-like 225-pounder
>
> who lifts over bumps and veers around pothholes and rides 32mm tires
>
> at 85psi rides lighter than a Nagurski-like 150-pounder who rides 23mm
>
> tires at 115psi and hits everything with a stiff body and locked arms.
>
> So, it's hard to give this bike a weight limit. I should point out
>
> that you aren't buying an engine with this bike; you're supplying the
>
> engine, and it's good to somewhat match the engine's weight with the
>
> frame's weight.
>
> OK: Up to 57cm, the main tube butts are 0.65, with 0.4bellies. Bigger
>
> than that, 0.8 butts with 0.6bellies. It's superstrong heat-treated
>
> steel, so strength isn't much of an issue. Flex is more of an issue,
>
> but nobody really anymore believes that flexless frames are the goal
>
> (I never have). A more rigid frame matters if you're toting weight,
>
> but not as much if you aren't, and as we introduce this as a
>
> superlight clubbie-bike, its flex-under-a-touring-load shouldn't
>
> matter.

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