On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 22:28 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 18:17 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:
> >> I get flak about it sometimes when I am out riding my All-Rounder
> >> with 26" wheels.
> >>
> >
> > I can't imagine why th
Tim is sensitive about his small wheels. Whenever he visits me at the
shop, I try not to stare.
On Feb 4, 8:03 am, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 22:28 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:
> > On Feb 3, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 18:17 -0600, Tim
On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 22:28 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Feb 3, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 18:17 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:
I get flak about it sometimes when I am out riding my All-Rounder
with 26" wh
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>>> On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 18:17 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:
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I get flak about it sometimes when I am out riding my All-Rounder
with 26" wheels.
I've only had a couple of comments about my 26"-wheeled XO-1. One fellow
commented on the long wheelbase, mistaking the roomy clearance
On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:37 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
Who makes the Primo? -- Not that it really matters, practically, as
I have all of Ryan Watson's 26X1 Turbos in my stash.
Primo is their own brand, probably manufactured by Cheng Shin if that
matters. Their Website is spectacularly non-info
Hello fellow Riv riders.
I finished building my new Sam HIllborne this weekend and am very
pleased
with how he turned out. I put Albatross bars with barend shifters on
him
and MTB levers pulling V brakes (Shimano Deore). I don't have much
experience with V brakes, but I'm fairly certain I have t
Thanks. I might have bought a pair if I didn't have GPs and Turbos stashed.
And I feel sorry for myself when, as on the last two or three days, we get a
bit of snow that doesn't stick.
Calhoun looks very interesting -- too bad I can't think of anything to buy
right now, tho' the Ortlieb bike sho
Bag is sold, thanks for your interest.
http://bikelovejones.livejournal.com
http://veloquent.blogspot.com
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On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Frederick, Steve
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my 26" Bianchi Milano fixed gear conversion commuter"
May we see photos?
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TCO is a problem to me which I have learned to live with with all the
Rivendell models I have owned. But this does not leave me less
sensitive to GP's choice of words on this matter either. I hope
Rivendell Bicycle Works will put out a chart or a table indicating at
what size(s) among their models
There's a couple on my flick'r page--it lost a lot of weight when I took off
the Nexus IG/drum brake hubbed wheel!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/3763276193/
Those are cut down Nitto Promenade bars--pretty nice Scorcher style setup! I
have different bars on there now but no pics o
I ran V's for a number of years and often had similar issues with the
noodle being tight in the cradle if the cables were new and the pads
were set close to the rim. Running with the adjusters in a bit is a
perfectly fine solution IMHO, you may also find that the problem goes
away once the cables
Actually, Grant didn't start the thread.
But I think it is time for other entrail readings and that we should move on
to analyzing Grant's wardrobe or his deoderant or something. I don't like
his haircut. Anyone else care to chime in?
Christ! Let's all get ourselves lives!
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at
I do have a life. that's why i don't reply to any all topics here;-) if grant did not start the thread, who did? isn't it if your name is on top of the topic or the first one, it is considered that you started the topic? -- rene
-Original Message- From: PATRICK MOORE Sent: Feb 4, 2010 12:1
Thanks Jeremy.
I believe the newer Tektro designs have settings for both long and short
pull brakes.
This may or may not rule out their use with V type brakes.
I did find a "mini" V brake listed as being long pull, so perhaps there's my
answer.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Jeremy Till wrote
FYI here is a traditional three bag set up using some ultralight
principles that will allow indefinite, unsupported, civilized, three
season touring at a weight of 22lbs. It can be installed on any bike,
road, touring, mountain as it requires no eyelets and even if you
don’t have saddlebag loops yo
Actually I think this round of TCO discussion was started off with this
innocuous little query...
Subject: TCO on an Atlantis?
Morning query: With BIG 50mm or larger tires on a 700c Atlantis, are
there TCO issues?
Enjoy a Sunday ride!
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA
Grant did start this particular t
Hey 559-lovers,
I have a wheelset for my stillborn 559-hotrod project that I'd be
happy to find a new home for... I'll even throw in some like-new Primo
26x1 tires/tubes! :-) They spin nice...
Front:
Shimano XTR HB-M900 32hole
laced to
Campagnolo Atek rim
Rear:
Suntour XC Pro 32 hole (greaseguar
This has gotten ridiculous. Grant's post ended with an expression of
concern that he shouldn't have said anything. I imagine it might be a
bit before he does again and I for one find that unfortunate.
TCO is an "offense"? Honestly.
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still looking for a 58cm Atlantis frame or even complete..
i was hoping to get a used one so i could save my new-bike funds for a
Hunq, but i may be forced to buy a new Atlantis if nobody has one to
pass on.
i just sold my XO-1 (thanks Mitch!) so i have cash in hand for a
frame.
contact me if you
I really like the look of this bag but the way it hangs interferes
with my rear rack set up so I am going to sell it and go with a mini
tail pack. It got used for about 3 months so its much "like new"
condition wiht a few spots of dust here and some buckle lines on the
straps. Thought I would off
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:34, Brad Gantt wrote:
> This has gotten ridiculous. Grant's post ended with an expression of
> concern that he shouldn't have said anything. I imagine it might be a
> bit before he does again and I for one find that unfortunate.
> TCO is an "offense"? Honestly.
This is d
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:42, james black wrote:
> This is directed to Brad and Patrick: is there really a need to be so
> condescending? You don't mind TCO, fine. Please don't insult those of
> us who do.
And by the way - I joined in this discussion not because it gives me
pleasure to fight with
On Feb 3, 4:17 pm, Tim McNamara wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2010, at 12:54 PM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >> For some reason that isn't completely obvious, a lot of people have a
> >> reflexive distaste for smaller wheels. The 56 Atlantis was always a
> >> much harder sell than a 58 Atlantis, which
Email and forum posts are a poor substitute for actual communication.
Intent, tone, etc. is often lost in translation. If I insulted
anybody, I apologize. I simply felt as though this string had
degenerated beyond the point of reason and perspective had been lost.
I make no judgement as to the impo
on 2/4/10 8:28 AM, Rene at valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> TCO is a problem to me which I have learned to live with with all the
> Rivendell models I have owned. But this does not leave me less
> sensitive to GP's choice of words on this matter either. I hope
> Rivendell Bicycle Works will put out
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:00, Brad Gantt wrote:
> I will admit that I simply do not understand the sentiment that
> TCO is an "offense". I believe that word choice is inflammatory and
> honestly insulting to the designers and builders of these bicycles. I
> also admit that I cannot understand the
CycloFiend wrote, in part:
>I think GP's post was a new thread to comment about a previous thread.
>Nevertheless, I do want to remind folks that if they want to communicate
>with Rivendell on any subject, the best way if directly. (Or cc them on the
>email with a note explaining why.) This list is
"I've read many reports over the years of people falling from their
bikes because of TCO. It hasn't happened to me, but I wouldn't want
to
tell anyone that the thing that made them fall over was purely user
error and not an attribute of bicycle design."
This I think is the crux. TCO is an aspect
That would be "affected" not "effected". :)
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Not to offend anybody, but my personal opinion is that TCO is a sign
of weak character and moral failing.
On Feb 4, 2:44 pm, Brad Gantt wrote:
> That would be "affected" not "effected". :)
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On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 12:49 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
> Not to offend anybody, but my personal opinion is that TCO is a sign
> of weak character and moral failing.
Weak character on the part of the frame builder and designer, right?
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How about some pics of said newly built up SamH?
On Feb 4, 9:40 am, clyde canter wrote:
> Thanks Jeremy.
> I believe the newer Tektro designs have settings for both long and short
> pull brakes.
> This may or may not rule out their use with V type brakes.
> I did find a "mini" V brake listed as
I have run v-brakes of one kind or another for a decade + on my MTBs.
As stated above, the issue is generally improved with a bit more room
between rim and pad (common on MTBs to allow for muck clearance) and
the inevitable relaxing of the cables. I generally squeeze the tops of
the brake arms (opp
Thanks all. I'll be sure to snap some shots for Jim's site first chance I
get. The weather 'round here's been unusually nasty this winter. I'll take
my camera on the first ride, which hopefully won't be too far off.
I didn't really get an answer to my question as to what the heck a "mini" V
brake
ROTFL!!
One of the reasons I do business with Jim is his sensitive nature.
On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
Tim is sensitive about his small wheels. Whenever he visits me at the
shop, I try not to stare.
On Feb 4, 8:03 am, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Wed, 2010
http://www.bikepartsusa.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=01-90078&source=froogle
Very common on comfort bikes.
From: clyde canter
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 6:06:13 PM
Su
I didn't really get an answer to my question as to wha
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 09:54 -0800, usuk2007 wrote:
> FYI here is a traditional three bag set up using some ultralight
> principles that will allow indefinite, unsupported, civilized, three
> season touring at a weight of 22lbs. It can be installed on any bike,
> road, touring, mountain as it requir
Okay some pics. Excuse my cluttered basement.
I'm not a whiz at this kind of thing but maybe this will work.
http://www5.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=1018276026/
Couldn't get Flikr to upload.
A brief rundown of the build.
60cm frame... Hset, BB, seatpost that came with it
Sugino XD2 crank
"I found that Primo 26 x 1.0 and Pasela 26 x 1.25 at 100 psi are
every bit as fast as any 700C
road tire I have used."
Tim,
When I first assembled my All-Rounder in 1998 I used Ritchey 26x1.4
tires. The bike was measurably slower than my Rivendell Road
Standard. I thought "this bike is a dog!"
Forgot the wheels.
Ultegra hubs..7 speed 36 front and rear.
Mavic Open Sport rear, MA-40 front.
Pasela 35 TGs
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:05 PM, clyde canter wrote:
> Okay some pics. Excuse my cluttered basement.
> I'm not a whiz at this kind of thing but maybe this will work.
> http://www5.snapf
I very much admire a set up like thisand have never been able to
pry myself away from panniers.
Angus
On Feb 4, 11:54 am, usuk2007 wrote:
> FYI here is a traditional three bag set up using some ultralight
> principles that will allow indefinite, unsupported, civilized, three
> season touring
Yeah, remind me to never ever, ever-never ask a question on the
internets
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Robert F. Harrison wrote:
> Actually I think this round of TCO discussion was started off with this
> innocuous little query...
>
> Subject: TCO on an Atlantis?
> Morning query: With
without being facetious, but wanting to pursue the proposal to the point of
absurdity, we can limit the number of variables jim pointed out to only those
which can be measured. let us not use the size of the shoes or even the angle
of the foot when pedalling or heeling the pedal. so as not to ha
The order form for a custom Rivendell explains TCO, and asks if TCO is
or is not acceptable.
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/177/original_custom_frame_form.pdf
On Feb 3, 12:51 pm, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > On a single I'm willing to put up with some TCO, though I'm very glad
> > that Mike B
Well yeah. Small bike, medium to high trail, 700c wheel, probably
some tco. Play with the trail - Rivs don't do low - and you may be
able to avoid. Or as the form says, opt for smaller wheels. Not
always an option with stock bikes.
On Feb 4, 8:50 pm, Richard wrote:
> The order form for a cust
http://picasaweb.google.com/clyde.canter/TheWinterOfSam#
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:14 PM, clyde canter wrote:
> Forgot the wheels.
> Ultegra hubs..7 speed 36 front and rear.
> Mavic Open Sport rear, MA-40 front.
> Pasela 35 TGs
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:05 PM, clyde canter wrote:
>
>> Okay
Hello All-
I'm cleaning out the parts drawer and thought I'd offer this stuff up here
before trying to flog elsewhere. Sorry for the cross-post with the IBOB
list. Prices plus actual USPS shipping with delivery confirmation. I can
do paypal or you can send a check. All prices negotiable. Resp
I'm in bag mood and feverishly, with sweating red face, breathing heavily,
am looking for a nice small seatbag for my gofast, one just big enough to
hold a 8" minipump.
I did get a very nice little tubular bag from Hiawatha recently, a
prototype. But I think I'll use that as a bar bag for the Moto
I would NEVER post such data on the website or in any other public
place! Ignorance is bliss! TCO is simply a non-issue to 98% of riders.
The 2% who worry (justifiably, of course) about TCO will ask the
necessary questions. No sense placing doubt in the minds of the other
98%. No better way to chok
One up on the RBW website...
On Feb 1, 10:33 pm, rcnute wrote:
> Pretty pictures!
>
> Ryan
>
> On Feb 1, 9:57 pm, John Blish wrote:
>
> > Very sorry. That was not intended for the list.
>
> > John
>
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:56 PM, John Blish wrote:
> > > Hi Fausto,
>
> > > I have a 58 Qui
This is my fave for my go fast, non traditional, bikes:
http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FMW2
I can get a small mini pump in it and the rear flap is soft so you can
actually zipper it around something a little longer than the bag
itself.
I have never seen or used this one, but it might
At $12.99, hard to go wrong.
http://www.banjobrothers.com/products/01061.php
Or look at their other under saddle offerings
From: PATRICK MOORE
T
Subject: [RBW] ISO nice, small seatbag: Banana or Crossant or similar
I'm in bag mood and feverishly, with sweati
Bbbbut it's so cheap!
Seriously, that is a very good option; I already have a very small Jandd
pouch just big enough for two tubes and that Park no-moving-parts multitool,
but it won't hold a minipump. This looks just right.
Thanks for the reference.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:53 PM, eflayer
>
>
Thanks. It's a good size but I prefer a more wedge shaped bag for under the
seat. The Jandd that Eddie Flayer referenced looks like a good choice.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Bruce wrote:
> At $12.99, hard to go wrong.
>
>
> http://www.banjobrothers.com/products/01061.php
>
> Or look at thei
This is great. Amazing how much "touring" one can do without a full
touring rig.
On Feb 4, 11:54 am, usuk2007 wrote:
> FYI here is a traditional three bag set up using some ultralight
> principles that will allow indefinite, unsupported, civilized, three
> season touring at a weight of 22lbs. It
I just ordered the tire bag plus their smallest courier bag on sale for $45;
both for less than the cost of a Banana!
Thanks again.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:53 PM, eflayer wrote:
>
>
> http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FTBII
>
>
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i couldn't wait.. just placed an order for the last orange Sam :)
the next couple of weeks are going to be like a kid leading up to xmas !
i'm having it built up with bullmoose bars and woodies, for that old-school
look..
i'll take some pics when it gets here.
i can't believe i just bought a
Yes Henry Kingman's setup was an inspiration.
On Feb 4, 7:39 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 09:54 -0800, usuk2007 wrote:
> > FYI here is a traditional three bag set up using some ultralight
> > principles that will allow indefinite, unsupported, civilized, three
> > season tou
Until the recent endless discussions here concerning TCO I didn't have
a clue about it.
Now I discover that three custom bikes I've ridden and liked the most
over the past 30 years have
all had the dreaded TCO. I'm bummed and thinking I've should have
employed more competent designers.
I
TCO= the Audi 5000 of cycling
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:39 PM, JimD wrote:
> Until the recent endless discussions here concerning TCO I didn't have a
> clue about it.
>
> Now I discover that three custom bikes I've ridden and liked the most over
> the past 30 years have
> all had the dreaded TCO.
Has been taken thanks for your interest
On Feb 4, 9:27 am, RoadieRyan wrote:
> I really like the look of this bag but the way it hangs interferes
> with my rear rack set up so I am going to sell it and go with a mini
> tail pack. It got used for about 3 months so its much "like new"
> condition
jim,
in today's world, someone will take your statement out of context and
display you as someone thinking that tco is deadly. all my bikes have
"tco".
don
On Feb 4, 9:39 pm, JimD wrote:
> Until the recent endless discussions here concerning TCO I didn't have
> a clue about it.
>
> Now I discov
this may be a "corny" thread to some, but i really regret selling my
rambouillet. i own some great bikes ( a 60x57 tournesol and a
60x57hampsten) and they are very similar( 1cm shorter top tube and
43cm chainstays). as a matter of fact, they are very similar to the
roadeos. i just miss the bike bec
Hobie, Google isn't letting me unlock your email. Did you sell this?
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On Jan 9, 6:02 am, hobie wrote:
> 18 month old 56cm Saluki 650B,school bus yellow.Sidepull, centerpull
> brakes,3 water bottle bosses, kickstand plate,frame saver used..I'm
> the original owner,purchase
On Feb 4, 12:18 pm, CycloFiend wrote:
> on 2/4/10 8:28 AM, Rene at valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
...
> You could probably measure the BB to front axle distance, and see if there
> was a consistency in what size caused the issue. The variables would be
> wheel size, tire size, fender standoff (gap
yes, jimD, somebody who hasn't found a life since patrick moore told us to find
one, might take you up on this and call the attention of the U.S. Consumer
Product Safety Commission on the dangers of TCO. -- Rene
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