I do have a life. that's why i don't reply to any all topics here;-) if grant did not start the thread, who did? isn't it if your name is on top of the topic or the first one, it is considered that you started the topic? -- rene
-----Original Message----- From: PATRICK MOORE Sent: Feb 4, 2010 12:13 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: TCO in general..
Actually, Grant didn't start the thread.
But I think it is time for other entrail readings and that we should move on to analyzing Grant's wardrobe or his deoderant or something. I don't like his haircut. Anyone else care to chime in?
Christ! Let's all get ourselves lives!
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Rene <valbu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
TCO is a problem to me which I have learned to live with with all the Rivendell models I have owned. But this does not leave me less sensitive to GP's choice of words on this matter either. I hope Rivendell Bicycle Works will put out a chart or a table indicating at what size(s) among their models is TCO not going to be "a problem" even with a size 12 feet or shoes. Or even a smaller size if 12 is a bigger average. Some may tell me that I should tell this directly to RBW. But I thought since GP started this subject on this forum, I can propose it here.
-- Rene
On Feb 3, 2:12 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > Anne and James: > > I will readily concede that TCO not being a concern to me left less > sensitive to GP's choice of words. > > On Feb 3, 1:05 pm, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:48 AM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > >> Those who design bicycles would be urged to consider customers like > > >> myself, recognize that TCO is an offense (however significant), and > > >> deal with it proactively, either by eliminating it, or acknowledging > > >> that it is a necessary evil (however significant) to be tolerated. > > > > Isn't that what Grant says in his post? > > > He said: "TCO ends up being a problem---in my opinion---only in > > theoretics, but not in practice." > > > For me, TCO is a problem in practice. I don't mind hearing that the > > desire for no TCO has to be balanced with other design considerations. > > I do mind hearing that what is an actual problem for me is not an > > actual problem for me. > > > -- > > -- Anne Paulson > > > He who wills the ends wills the means- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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