[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-31 Thread Mike S
Haha, did not realize I cranked it up so high on the smug thermostat! Perhaps I should fart in a wineglass and savor the delicate notes? But, Thomas Friedman is still a tool. On Jan 31, 10:28 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Oh man!!!  Now I want to burn his book... I've been HAD!!! > > Bobby "That

Re: [RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-31 Thread cyclotourist
Put it on ebay and let the invisible hand of the market decide what it's worth. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Oh man!!! Now I want to burn his book... I've been HAD!!! > > Bobby "That kool-aid be tainted" Birmingham > > On Jan 30, 10:22 pm, Mike S wrote: > > Thoma

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-31 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Oh man!!! Now I want to burn his book... I've been HAD!!! Bobby "That kool-aid be tainted" Birmingham On Jan 30, 10:22 pm, Mike S wrote: > Thomas Friedman may have not been able to say it better, but there is > some room for him to live it better...http://tinyurl.com/kjnlao > (Friedman's Mansio

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-30 Thread charlie
Ye speak the truth and I suppose the durability of concrete also depends on the climate and vegetation to some degree not to mention the quality of concrete. Speaking of lighter modes of transit, I've always thought it would be cool to have a velomobile with and electric assist being that I am 25 m

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-30 Thread Mike S
Thomas Friedman may have not been able to say it better, but there is some room for him to live it better... http://tinyurl.com/kjnlao (Friedman's Mansion built on his wife's MegaMall inheritance) be the change you wish to see. On Jan 27, 8:06 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Thomas Friedman couldn

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-29 Thread JoelMatthews
> At what cost though ? Concrete cracks and weathers and weeds grow > through it  just as it does with asphalt. It costs quite a bit to > maintain roadways. A United States spending less money spent on autos and sending less money overseas for oil has the money to build better roads for lighter m

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-28 Thread charlie
At what cost though ? Concrete cracks and weathers and weeds grow through it just as it does with asphalt. It costs quite a bit to maintain roadways.less autos = less money for maintenance= more bicycles with wide tires ! Have you ever watched any of those ridiculous doomsday movies that s

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-28 Thread JoelMatthews
> This is part of where I was coming from in that road maintenance can't > be done without petroleum, at least not good asphalt. And boy do we > bicyclists love a good road surface. Flat out wrong. If there were fewer vehicles, we would not need as many streets/roads and those we would have would

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread Shawn
Charlie, Being a little picky here, but fossil fuels will never totally run out. Peak Oil is about extraction not keeping up with demand and energy returned on energy invested (EROEI). IMO our biggest concern with Peak Oil and recourse depletion should be with the warfare that will accompany the co

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread charlie
Makes sense to me On Jan 27, 10:54 am, robert zeidler wrote: > My brother, you paint too gloomy a picture.  If we run out of fossil > fuels-there's more than one way skin a cat.  All cars, trucks, trains > (don't know about planes) will be electric, so buy GE stock early. > Short of some

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread charlie
This is part of where I was coming from in that road maintenance can't be done without petroleum, at least not good asphalt. And boy do we bicyclists love a good road surface.Taking things to the extreme also stirs thought and responses so...following the Grok idea to the extreme would lead to

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread benzzoy
On Jan 27, 10:54 am, robert zeidler wrote: > My brother, you paint too gloomy a picture.  If we run out of fossil > fuels-there's more than one way skin a cat.  All cars, trucks, trains > (don't know about planes) will be electric, so buy GE stock early. You seem to only acknowledge that oil is f

Re: [RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread zeidler . robert
@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc. Thomas Friedman couldn't have said it better... In fact (in Hot, Flat and Crowded) he takes several pages to say as much... A real eye- opener indeed... Perhaps we need to consume far less of everything

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Thomas Friedman couldn't have said it better... In fact (in Hot, Flat and Crowded) he takes several pages to say as much... A real eye- opener indeed... Perhaps we need to consume far less of everything, and HOPE (and PRAY) the rest of the developing world still aspires to emulate us... But I digre

Re: [RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I did the same with my chi-chi, Rich-wheels with SON 20R and Edeluxe. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:11 PM, William wrote: > I had been waiting for review on this 'game changer' but got tired of > waiting and went ahead and pulled the trigger on a Schmidt.  Taking > this strongly back to a Rivendell

Re: [RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I agree, the drag on my SON is non-noticeable and even that on the Shimanos is non-noticeable. And hub dynos are so *cool*! -- regardless of utility. (I remember an early, bike-accessory splurge, about age 12 or 13, Delhi, circa 1968, a cheap (but shiny!) bottle and headlight and tail lamp combo, a

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread JoelMatthews
> wholesale arrangement, if they haven't already. Supporting Rivendell with > your biz is well and good, but there's a case to be made for working with > your local bike professionals. Agreed. Bike light wiring is delicate. A few years back I did the wiring on my then camping bike. Second day o

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread William
Jim Absolutely true. I bought from Riv in part because Riv is my LBS. Peter's recommendation was not specifically to buy from Riv, it was specifically to buy from the shop I want to patronize. The information I posted was merely to point out that if any of us wants anything from Peter White, we

Re: [RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > I should point out that Peter White is THE wholesaler for many of the German > lighting products, and Rivendell is not the only outfit that sells these > items at the retail level. We at Hiawatha Cyclery have been selling Schmi

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I should point out that Peter White is THE wholesaler for many of the German lighting products, and Rivendell is not the only outfit that sells these items at the retail level. We at Hiawatha Cyclery have been selling Schmidt hubs/lights, B&M lights, etc, since we opened our doors five years ago

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread William
I had been waiting for review on this 'game changer' but got tired of waiting and went ahead and pulled the trigger on a Schmidt. Taking this strongly back to a Rivendell Bicycle Works topic, I did my research on Peter White's copious pages of webinfo. I asked Peter directly if I should buy direc

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread JoelMatthews
> Personally I think a dyno hub is always a good idea, regardless of > season. In the summer (even with long days) it simply extends your > riding and removes daylight limitations... As far as the idea of a > "clutch" mechanism IMO, the clutch mechanism dynohub is a solution looking for a problem

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Personally I think a dyno hub is always a good idea, regardless of season. In the summer (even with long days) it simply extends your riding and removes daylight limitations... As far as the idea of a "clutch" mechanism, I haven't been able to noticeably detect drag on any of the dynamo hubs I've

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread scott
"Roads. Where we're going, we don't need roads." On Jan 27, 8:26 am, newenglandbike wrote: > On Jan 27, 4:43 am, charlie wrote: > > >If we do run out of > > fossil fuels you can kiss our roadways goodbye we'll all be walking > > like Grok eventually and society will be back in the stone age. > >

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread newenglandbike
On Jan 27, 4:43 am, charlie wrote: >If we do run out of > fossil fuels you can kiss our roadways goodbye we'll all be walking > like Grok eventually and society will be back in the stone age. Right, because we all know humans went straight from the stone-age to the modern petrochemical economy,

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-27 Thread Mojo
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