[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-12 Thread Richard
Here's one review of the new Velo-Orange brake pads that are not supposed to squeal. http://velo-orange.blogspot.com On Oct 12, 1:29 pm, clevewheel wrote: > One thing I didn't see mentioned is making sure the pads are > equidistant from the rim.  If one pad is firmly against the rim but > the

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-12 Thread clevewheel
One thing I didn't see mentioned is making sure the pads are equidistant from the rim. If one pad is firmly against the rim but the other isn't it will make a racket until you squeeze harder - then it stops. On Oct 11, 10:50 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > I have a set of the shiman br550's on my bike

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-12 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Lots of ideas here, and they're all right...sometimes. Paul cantis can squeal with the best of 'em. Cheap Shimano Altus cantis can work great with no squealing. So much of it depends on seemingly trivial details, and what works on one bike may not work on another. At a shop I worked at some years

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-12 Thread Garth
I've always preferred the old full post style canti for their adjustability. My favorite has been the vintage Shimano BR-MC70 from the early 80's. Super adjustable(also good for 27" to 700c conversions), high powered and no squealing whatever pads I use. Some rear XC Pros with Ritchey(kool-stops)

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-12 Thread geezer
Hi Seth, Another option here: My commuter/cross bike had Avid Shorty 6 brakes when I bought it - very similar to the BR550s. They stopped pretty well but squealed and shuddered badly. I tried a lot of different things - different pads, toe-in adjustments, different straddle cables, help from th

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread JGS
I have those brakes and they never squeal unless the rims are wet and I think that has more to do w/ all the grime on my rims. I use these pads: http://www.swissstop.ch/ On Oct 11, 1:18 pm, Phil Brown wrote: > On Oct 11, 11:15 am, CycloFiend wrote: > > > > I also have an old set of mafac tand

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread Phil Brown
On Oct 11, 11:15 am, CycloFiend wrote: > > I also have an old set of mafac tandem cantis that I took off an old > > gitane frame. I guess I could pop those on. > > > Any thoughts? > > IME, you haven't heard squeal until you've run MAFAC's... ...on the stock pads. For the classic look I use La

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread Dave Craig
Setting up canti brakes is as much an art as a science. Before jumping to another brand of lever or brake, it's always worth it to play with the pads and straddle wire. I've found that the geometry of a given frame and differences front to back will affect how the brakes work and how they must be

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread EricP
Had a similar situation with one of my bikes. The only thing that worked on this one was a different brake. So it now has a Tektro 720 on the front. These are also the brakes I use on the Sam Hillborne and they are very reliable with no squeal. At least for me on two bikes. Now, the mechanic

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread SpeedyChix
I like the Paul Touring cantis & the salmon KoolStop pads. If you get the v-brake pad holders for them it's even easier. Slip in the pads, line em up and tighten. The new pads have a slight 'toe' to them so they are really easy to set up quiet. On Oct 11, 1:50 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > I have a se

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 12:03 -0700, Jeremy Till wrote: > Yeah, it seems like whether or not canti's squeal seems less to do > with the particular brand/model of brake than the peculiarities of the > set-up- all the stuff jim said, as well as the flexiness of the fork, > how worn your cables are, di

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread J. Burkhalter
I'll echo the above suggestions to try some new pads first. But I'll also vouch for the IRD's and Tektro CR720's if you decide to go that route. I had the IRD's w/ KoolStop pads on the Atlantis. They worked great and were fairly easy to set up. I run the Tektro's on the QB, and I'm super pleas

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread JoelMatthews
If you want to do something different, I just got back from a camping trip with newly installed Paul Motolites. The brakes stopped under load (about 75 to 80 pounds of gear with 165 pounds of me) well. Using drops so brake levers are Cane Creek V Levers. Tektro and Dia- Compe also make drop bar

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread cyclotourist
Those brakes have some of the worst brake pads I have ever experienced. They came on my Quickbeam. I immediately replaced them w/ Koolstop blacks (Sunny SoCal!) and the performance was doubled if not tripled. A little bit of squeak no matter what I do, so I think it's just the inherent flex in th

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
"Vel-Orange has some new brake pads on their website that are not supposed to squeak. " Ha! Do they stop?! On Oct 11, 4:01 pm, Richard wrote: > Vel-Orange has some new brake pads on their website that are not > supposed to squeak. > > On Oct 11, 12:50 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > I have a set o

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread Richard
Vel-Orange has some new brake pads on their website that are not supposed to squeak. On Oct 11, 12:50 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > I have a set of the shiman br550's on my bike right now and I'm not > terribly pleased with them. They've been fairly persnickety to setup > and there's lots of annoying

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread MichaelH
"Persnickety to setup" certainly matched my experience w those brakes. What levers are you using? I found them almost impossible with Ultegra SIS. I had to set them very, very close to the rim to escape bottoming out the levers, then there wasn't enough room left to open the straddle cable. Any

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread newenglandbike
I have shimano cantis as well, and another thing to consider is the pads. If you can't eliminate barking with toe-in or other adjustments, you might want to experiment with different pads. I found some tektro pads that are absolutely bark-free and grip really well. On Oct 11, 3:03 pm, Jeremy

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread Jeremy Till
Yeah, it seems like whether or not canti's squeal seems less to do with the particular brand/model of brake than the peculiarities of the set-up- all the stuff jim said, as well as the flexiness of the fork, how worn your cables are, distance from housing stop to straddle wire, phase of the moon,

[RBW] Re: canti brakes

2009-10-11 Thread CycloFiend
on 10/11/09 10:50 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote: > I have a set of the shiman br550's on my bike right now and I'm not > terribly pleased with them. They've been fairly persnickety to setup > and there's lots of annoying brake squeal from the front one. I'm > curious if maybe I should