On Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:27:27 PM UTC-5, Minh wrote:
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> Well there have been some notable changes in manufacturing of those
> frames, whereas the original Atlantis frames were made in Japan (when the
> YEN exchange rate was much more favorable), now you get a frame made in the
> US at W
I don't believe the explanation for the price increases is as simple as
going from Japan to US manufacture, with currency exchanges, and such. It
looks like the Atlantis and some of Riv's other non-Taiwan frames are now a
made-to-order kinda thing, when before it was produced in some quantity
(
On Monday, December 16, 2013 1:03:14 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote:
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>
> However, the thing with getting a custom Rivendell is you're buying not
> just a beautiful custom steel frame, but their philosophy. You're getting
> a Grant-designed bike with his specific geometry for YOU. Yes, others
Agree, a custom Riv is currently at $3500. When you look at other custom
builders, that's pretty much in the middle. On the high end, you can wait
5+ years and get yourself a Vanilla or Richard Sachs and pay whatever the
going rate is at the time your name is called, I believe right now they're
Considering that Carbon race bikes with top-of-the line SRAM or Campy or
Shimano can tip 5 figures (Gulp!) in Canada (Specialized,
Cervelo,Scott...etc) , Rivs are still a bargain
for comparison, though:
1997 Riv all-rounder $1325 w cream headtube and my name + Phil BB and Tange
Rollerball inst
Let us all praise Rivendell road bikes ("road" -- dedicated spritely rides
for pavement).
Very late 1994 custom: $950.
April, 1999 Joe custom: ~$1,800
March, 2003 Curt custom: ~$2,300.
I could not afford a custom nowadays.
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Mojo wrote:
> I got carried away fro
In 1982 I bought my son his first racing bike, a lugged Columbus standard
gauge Bianchi, which we upgraded to campy NR. I think the whole thing
costs about $500. My daughter is still riding it, with the original group.
In 1984 I bought a Trek 620, a Reynolds 531 sport touring bike, for $530
Still kicking myself for cancelling that Hunqapillar preorder at Harris for
$1500. Wish they made a 56, but then again have a bombadil in 56 so I did
work out in the end
On Dec 15, 2013 4:56 PM, "RJM" wrote:
> Well, my Sam Hillborne was 1 grand and that included shipping for the
> frame, fork
Well, my Sam Hillborne was 1 grand and that included shipping for the
frame, fork, headset, seatpost, and bottom bracket. I got it on one of the
member emails and jumped on it. I think it is a very inexpensive bike for
what I got and worth every penny. At 1500 bucks it would be a deal.
My Road
one thing to remember about customs is that their resale value is comparatively
lousy. a custom only has extra value to the original purchaser. jan will tell
you the most valuable rene herse bikes are standard models, not the customs.
maybe you can get a custom that is a copy of an atlantis f
the legolas can be gotten today as well. just a nod and a wink, and one will
appear.
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I got carried away from the original thread intent:
1995 AllRounder $900
2001 Road Custom $1700
2006 Quickbeam $900
2009 Legolas $2000
...each a bargain. They are all worth more to me now than when they were
new.
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Yes. Exactly. Each time I get on the Ram or Saluki, I remind myself just
how comfortable they are, but it is the Road that I get on more than the
others. It's my all time favorite too.
I've really enjoyed the posts in this thread. Thanks to all who have
replied.
On 12/15/2013 12:56 PM, Mojo
I want to add on to my minorly (I hope minorly) snarky remark about buying
a Surly LHT. I have four Rivendells and I agree all four were worth every
penny. I always wanted a Bridgestone XO-1 back in the early 90s, but never
bought one and was bummed when the company went down in the summer of 19
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>> First one I bought was, I think, less than $1,000.
Every frame I've purchased from Rivendell has been worth every penny. The
first was around '99 or so, drove down to RBWWHQ to pick up a Heron Road.
Not sure but I think it was $950, maybe as high as $1050. That frame
became the bike th
When did the Atlantis price go up? I thought it was slowly creeping up and
jumped only recently when they became order-only from Waterford rather than
an ongoing production model from Toyo.
FWIW, the yen-dollar exchange rate hovered around 110-120 between '96 and
'07, before it broke the ¥100:$
There is pretty extensive writing in the first bunch of riv readers about
how the frame sets are (were) way underpriced. Also an explanation each
time the frame sets increase in price, bringing them more in line with
market realities. My guess is that they are still underpriced, much like
eve
Well there have been some notable changes in manufacturing of those frames,
whereas the original Atlantis frames were made in Japan (when the YEN
exchange rate was much more favorable), now you get a frame made in the US
at Waterford.
Same with the Bombas, the price went up as the person that
I _think_ my custom was $1,800 in Y2K.
On 12/14/13, Bruce Herbitter wrote:
> Interestingly, customs have stayed pretty stable in price. They are
> $3,500 today. They were $2,700 in late '06. Where Atlantis has changed
> 64%, customs have moved 30%. Both prices higher than a Franklin.
>
> On 12/14
Interestingly, customs have stayed pretty stable in price. They are
$3,500 today. They were $2,700 in late '06. Where Atlantis has changed
64%, customs have moved 30%. Both prices higher than a Franklin.
On 12/14/2013 3:22 PM, Garth wrote:
I won't pretend to know how or why the prices of the
I won't pretend to know how or why the prices of the frames have
skyrocketed . I bought my custom Franklin frame in '99 at the time the
Atlantis came out , and I can get another Franklin for not much more than I
paid for it then :)
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Keep in mind that in another ten years, today's prices will seem like
bargains. A Rivendell has such a long service life that today's indulgence
will look still feel like a good choice a decade from now.
dougP
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:45:44 AM UTC-8, Garth wrote:
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> FWIW The
FWIW The Atlantis was originally under 1K in '99 ! ! That was when
the Yen was more favorable to the USD ... then it flipped !
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