Still kicking myself for cancelling that Hunqapillar preorder at Harris for
$1500. Wish they made a 56, but then again have a bombadil in 56 so I did
work out in the end....
On Dec 15, 2013 4:56 PM, "RJM" <crccpadu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, my Sam Hillborne was 1 grand and that included shipping for the
> frame, fork, headset, seatpost, and bottom bracket. I got it on one of the
> member emails and jumped on it. I think it is a very inexpensive bike for
> what I got and worth every penny. At 1500 bucks it would be a deal.
>
> My Roadeo I got right before the price went up, so I paid 2 grand, plus an
> extra 150 for custom paint. Looking at the market place and seeing Trek 5
> series framesets going for $2200 bucks, 6 series going for $3500 bucks,
> custom makers like Shamrock pricing their frames at $2250 and others right
> around those kinds of prices, I just don't think the Roadeo is overpriced
> at all. I think it is situated at or lower than market prices for similar
> framesets. I mean, I am sure you can get someone to make you a frameset for
> less than the Roadeo, I doubt it will ride as nice as the Roadeo though. I
> think the Roadeo has always been a higher priced frameset in Rivs lineup,
> so I don't really think you could have scored a sweet deal like buying the
> Atlantis in 2007 or something.
>
> I think many of Riv's frames are now being built in the US by Waterford,
> which aint a cheap place to get a bike frame made. The price difference
> from 2006 to now has much to do with having the bikes produced in the U.S.
> compared to Japan...or Taiwan.
>
> Rivs aren't cheap bikes, and I don't think they should be cheap
> bikes. When someone compares a Rivendell like the Atlantis to a Surly LHT,
> I kind of cringe. I owned the LHT for a little and had an Atlantis I
> stupidly sold and the two bikes aren't really comparable, IMHO. I think the
> Atlantis rode better, felt a little faster actually, and was a prettier
> bike than the LHT. Of course surly isn't making bad bikes, but they
> aren't making bikes that have the same quality as Rivendells. I think the
> value of Riv frames is very high and honestly, I think the bikes will
> retain their value in the long run. I would rather pony up to get a bike I
> will keep for 20 years than spend that cash on a different bike like a
> Madone that I will wind up replacing in 7 years or so. I voted with my
> dollars already though. Clearly, I am a Riv fan.
>
> Would really like a Hunqapillar or a custom mountain mixte though. Maybe
> sometime later this year I will get the money together for something like
> that.
>
> On Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:28:15 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> I was using the time between sets of push ups (too yucky out to pedal
>> today) and cruising the RBW web site this morning. Looking at the
>> framesets, I see where Atlantis is now 2,300 F.O.B. origin. When I
>> bought my Ram in late 2006, it was 1,350 and the Atlantis was only
>> $1,400.  Using the AIER cost of living calculator, 1400 in 2006 is worth
>> 1,618 today, so frames have gone up significantly more than the prices
>> of everyday goods as a whole. This is not to say they cost too much now,
>> just a realization that those of us who were fortunate enough to get RBW
>> bikes back then got really good deals on really good bikes.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
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