On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 21:10 -0700, William wrote:
> I'd buy one of those Rivendells, if they didn't all need one of those
> 'signature' drivetrains. Drivetrains just act as a shelf to collect
> mud. I'm going to order one of those drivetrainless bikes, so I can
> remain mud free when I slog throu
I'm more intrigued by this bike all the time. I agree with others that
1.125 stems are an improvement, headset adjustment wise. But I still
prefer 1-inch quill stems, aesthetically, so that's a plus to me. And
downtube shifter bosses - hella yes! And if you don't like em, see if
your LBS has some o
I'd buy one of those Rivendells, if they didn't all need one of those
'signature' drivetrains. Drivetrains just act as a shelf to collect
mud. I'm going to order one of those drivetrainless bikes, so I can
remain mud free when I slog through the mud.
On Apr 7, 8:51 pm, CycloFiend wrote:
> on 4/
on 4/7/11 3:08 PM, Aaron Thomas at aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new "signature" kickstand plate.
I recall seeing a photo of someone's Hilsen (maybe Cyclofiend's?) that had
been CX-raced in the mud. And the kickstand plate acted as a mud shelf,
piling
Lucky! Did you get any information regarding pricing and release date?
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On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 18:14 -0700, EricP wrote:
> Winter riding. Even with full coverage fenders, snow/salt/slush
> accumulate on a plate. I still argue this can lead to early corrosion
> of the stays when it builds up over a few winters.
Certainly not a problem here in Northern Virginia.
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Winter riding. Even with full coverage fenders, snow/salt/slush
accumulate on a plate. I still argue this can lead to early corrosion
of the stays when it builds up over a few winters. (A similar
argument was recently conducted on the Surly LHT list. Someone there
indicated to me a powdercoat f
If you are in the market for a $1000 range cyclocross frameset with
optimal mud clearance, I agree that the Soma San Marcos is not your
best choice. Nor is the Hillborne.
On Apr 7, 3:08 pm, Aaron Thomas wrote:
> I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new "signature" kickstand plate.
> I rec
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 15:08 -0700, Aaron Thomas wrote:
>
> The kickstand plate seems to limit the versatility of the frame,
> without really giving you any significant benefits. After all, you can
> always add a kickstand to a frame without a plate.
Yes, sure, if you're willing to risk the chance
I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new "signature" kickstand plate.
I recall seeing a photo of someone's Hilsen (maybe Cyclofiend's?) that had
been CX-raced in the mud. And the kickstand plate acted as a mud shelf,
piling it up high behind the seat tube.
The kickstand plate seems to li
I was in SF on business and lucked into enough time to take Bart out
to Walnut Creek to visit Riv. I was fortunate enough to be able to
ride the very Soma pictured in the Riv PDF. When I came back after a
spin my face was hurting...from smiling so much. I would order one in
a heartbeat if I had
Interesting; thanks for posting that. I wonder what my frame was made from:
certainly oversized and quite light, but doubtless not as thinwall as tubing
for light road racers. Actually, I think a good part of the bike's appeal
was the frame design: IIRC, it was well balanced: not to twitchy, not to
On Apr 5, 6:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> Thanks. Do you know if the new Prestige is still thinwall heat treated? My
> 1991 Specialized Stumpjumper Team was the old Prestige and it was a very
> nice frame indeed; I don't remember hearing of any weight limit -- my
> brother Peter, a good 40-50 lb
I've got three kids, so have done my part to perpetuate the species...
it's all extranious bits now I suppose.
On 4/5/11, rcnute wrote:
> Hmm, "crotchal safety" and "unimportant differentiators" in the same
> sentence...
>
> Ryan
>
> On Apr 5, 5:39 pm, William wrote:
>> I don't believe anybody i
Hmm, "crotchal safety" and "unimportant differentiators" in the same
sentence...
Ryan
On Apr 5, 5:39 pm, William wrote:
> I don't believe anybody is handwringing over whatever their front end
> format is. Both threaded and threadless work and work well. bfd's
> assertion was that more Soma San
Thanks. Do you know if the new Prestige is still thinwall heat treated? My
1991 Specialized Stumpjumper Team was the old Prestige and it was a very
nice frame indeed; I don't remember hearing of any weight limit -- my
brother Peter, a good 40-50 lb heavier than my 170, had no problem beating
up sim
I don't believe anybody is handwringing over whatever their front end
format is. Both threaded and threadless work and work well. bfd's
assertion was that more Soma San Marcos framesets would be sold if it
were spec'd with a 1" threadless fork, because threadless is
mainstream even though 1" thre
Don't know the answers, but from what I can gather, present Prestige
has little to no relation to the old Prestige tubing. That was light,
heat treated tubing that had some serious restrictions on it for frame
builders. (This is all from 25 year old memories, so take with a grain
of salt.) If rem
I've come to appreciate threadless. The ease of setting them is
fantastic. If I were going to get a new bike, I would prefer it. I
don't know of any downside to them, other than they don't look good
with high bars on a too-small frame. I think they look nicer than the
big "7" of a quill stem s
On Apr 5, 2:32 pm, rperks wrote:
> I would specualate that since the bike is using Riv style lugs that it
> dictates the steerer size. Same thing with the Roadeo. Somewhere in
> Grants style of blogging there was a more recent post on the upcoming
> bike. Ok found
> ithttps://www.rivbike.com
On Apr 5, 2:09 pm, William wrote:
> 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think
> I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more
> mainstream.
Why not? If you offer things familiar to what people want, it will
sell. Further, Riv does offer or onc
I would specualate that since the bike is using Riv style lugs that it
dictates the steerer size. Same thing with the Roadeo. Somewhere in
Grants style of blogging there was a more recent post on the upcoming
bike. Ok found it
https://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/364/original_oct1visus.pdf
K
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:09 PM, William wrote:
> 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think
> I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more
> mainstream. 1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv
> thinks are important. 1.125" threadless
1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think
I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more
mainstream. 1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv
thinks are important. 1.125" threadless is flat out better for
reasons that Riv thinks are enti
On Apr 5, 1:41 pm, William wrote:
> "They could still stay with 1" as there
> are shims to fit 1.25" stems."
>
> and there are adapters so they can stay with 1" threaded and still
> fit threadless stems.
>
That's true, but those adapters are alot more bulky than incorporating
a threadless st
Does anyone know how much it will cost? And, second, what current or recent
Rivendell model will this most closely approximate? Tange Prestige: I
remember when that was really high end stuff, at least in the marketing
literature. The tubing had a nice, clear "ping" when you flicked it with
your fin
"They could still stay with 1" as there
are shims to fit 1.25" stems."
and there are adapters so they can stay with 1" threaded and still
fit threadless stems.
Also I presume you mean 1.125".
On Apr 5, 11:33 am, bfd wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2:03 pm, davidfrench wrote:> maybe here :
>
> >http://s
On Apr 4, 2:03 pm, davidfrench wrote:
> maybe here :
>
> http://somafab.blogspot.com/2010/01/rivendell-collaborates-with-soma-...
>
I agree with one of the commenters, I don't understand why it will
have 1" threaded fork/headset. Sorry, but in today's market THREADLESS
headset should be standard
maybe here :
http://somafab.blogspot.com/2010/01/rivendell-collaborates-with-soma-on.html
On Apr 1, 4:59 pm, rcnute wrote:
> True, but I figured summer 2011--maybe?
>
> Ryan
>
> On Apr 1, 1:53 pm, William wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hopefully March 19,2010 is not really the latest. :)
>
> > Calling Mer
True, but I figured summer 2011--maybe?
Ryan
On Apr 1, 1:53 pm, William wrote:
> Hopefully March 19,2010 is not really the latest. :)
>
> Calling Merry Sales is probably the best way to get that info.
>
> On Apr 1, 1:40 pm, rcnute wrote:
>
> >http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/216
>
> > Ry
I asked Soma about this, and they said they will do a blog post when they
have more information. Nothing as of yet.
Eric
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:53 PM, William wrote:
> Hopefully March 19,2010 is not really the latest. :)
>
> Calling Merry Sales is probably the best way to get that info.
>
>
Hopefully March 19,2010 is not really the latest. :)
Calling Merry Sales is probably the best way to get that info.
On Apr 1, 1:40 pm, rcnute wrote:
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/216
>
> Ryan
>
> On Apr 1, 12:08 pm, Richard Merkin wrote:
>
> > Has anybody heard the lastest about th
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/216
Ryan
On Apr 1, 12:08 pm, Richard Merkin wrote:
> Has anybody heard the lastest about the release of the bike they are
> working on together?
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On Jan 9, 7:32 am, CycloFiend wrote:
> on 1/9/10 4:56 AM, Mark at mclbicy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > This comment may be premature, but I hope Riv doesnt start making it a
> > habit to have only ONE color Rivs like the Gomez and Foy. What I mean
> > is that the headbadge needs the two tone to acc
I'd be way into that. I'd love to have a 64-65 cm RB-1. (The largest they came
in the Bridgestone Golden Age was 62 cm, and I make mine work.) For certain
kinds of rides, it's the best bike I have.
-Jim W.
>
>I've said it before (ad nauseum perhaps), but what I'd really like to
>see is a reis
I agree with Ryan W. If they came out with a thin-n-flexy roadie
frame, I'd be tempted, especially if it were painted the nice single
color blue like this one is and had a horizontal (or nearly so) top
tube.
But if I had to guess based on the photos, I'd say this is an OS fat-n-
stiff job. Just lo
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So... what's the tubing on this baby?
Thin-n-flexy or fat-n-stiff?
If Riv made a nice, noodly non-OS frame, I'd be very tempted.
Ryan
On Jan 9, 2010, at 10:51, RoadieRyan wrote:
RIv lugs, so OS tubing, I'd guess.
On Jan 9, 10:23 am, "rswat...@me.com" wrote:
> So... what's the tubing on this baby?
> Thin-n-flexy or fat-n-stiff?
> If Riv made a nice, noodly non-OS frame, I'd be very tempted.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Jan 9, 2010, at 10:51, RoadieRyan wrote:
>
> > Jason
>
> > Thanks
So... what's the tubing on this baby?
Thin-n-flexy or fat-n-stiff?
If Riv made a nice, noodly non-OS frame, I'd be very tempted.
Ryan
On Jan 9, 2010, at 10:51, RoadieRyan wrote:
Jason
Thanks for these pics I was eagerly awaiting more after that first
teaser and you have delivered!
It will
Yesterday, I saw the SOMA, and the boxy bag. Details on the bag will
come soon from Grant, but its a very nice looking bag. Magnets.
The SOMA looks as it does in the photos - very nice looking, and
because Rivendell is the partner, it should ride very nice. The color
is very close to a Romulus.
Jason
Thanks for these pics I was eagerly awaiting more after that first
teaser and you have delivered!
It will be interesting to see how this frame compares to the SamH and
stanyan. More of a low cost Roadeo? 650b? Love the color and the
lugs, I agree with "surf" that a creamish headtube to se
Jim,
Thanks for the kind reminders. I realize that Humour and
(especially mine) is easily misinterpretted. I'm glad most around here
understand.
Thank again! I do understand the cost issues and I suppose that this
will atleast give people an option, single or double scooped? I dont
understand
on 1/9/10 4:56 AM, Mark at mclbicy...@gmail.com wrote:
> This comment may be premature, but I hope Riv doesnt start making it a
> habit to have only ONE color Rivs like the Gomez and Foy. What I mean
> is that the headbadge needs the two tone to accent the steel lugs. So,
> I do not mind that ther
on 1/9/10 4:56 AM, Mark at mclbicy...@gmail.com wrote:
> This comment may be premature, but I hope Riv doesnt start making it a
> habit to have only ONE color Rivs like the Gomez and Foy. What I mean
> is that the headbadge needs the two tone to accent the steel lugs. So,
> I do not mind that ther
Are the threads missing from the BB shell?
I agree this seems like an interesting idea with the Soma Stanyan out
in the market. Especially since the Stanyan is a relatively new
model. Great looking bike though.
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Actually like the one color frame (like my Hillborne) a lot. A more
uniform look. As to the headbadge. Well, my personal preference is
for the single color. Yes, two tone (or full color) is nice. But not
necessary in my opinion. Especially if the per piece cost is too
much.
But still want a
This comment may be premature, but I hope Riv doesnt start making it a
habit to have only ONE color Rivs like the Gomez and Foy. What I mean
is that the headbadge needs the two tone to accent the steel lugs. So,
I do not mind that there is only one color frame, just dont try to
save money by gettin
I like the blue used, reminiscent of both the original Waterford production Riv
Road models and the Romulus. The rear dropouts look a little clunky and I'm not
a fan of dented chain stays. The seatstay bridge looks threaded for a fender
mount and that is a nice touch. Lugs are attractive, and I
Thanks for sharing these pictures.
I really like the silveriness (that is definitely not a word) of the
paint.
Angus
On Jan 9, 4:21 am, Jason wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was at RivHQ on Friday and the prototype frame was laying around.
> They said they didn't mind pictures, so here they are:
>
> htt
The older Somas were made with Reynolds 631 ( I have a 2007 Double
Cross) but they switched to Tange (in 2009 I believe).
And the rumor is that the same shop in Taiwan ( Maxway) builds both
the Soma's and the Hillborne right now.
So this sort of thing seems fairly easy to do on paper. In reality
My SOMA is made with Reynolds 631. WHile I have my gripes with it,
it's a fantastic frame/fork with a flat crown.
-Justin
On Jan 7, 4:40 pm, Eric Norris wrote:
> A Riv made with 4140 tubing? Let's hope Soma uses some decent tubing for the
> frame ... and a flat fork crown.
>
> --Eric
> campyon
I, for one, wouldn't go with a Hillborne under the scenario you
depict. If the geometry of this new offering is more "road" (like the
Romulus or Roadeo) and less "country bike" I'd opt for it in a flash
over the Hillborne. The Romulus is a great bike.
A
On Jan 8, 8:37 am, jpp wrote:
> I wonder t
I wonder the Riv-Soma relationship.
Will it be a taiwan made roadeo and grant allowed them to use the
design?
Or is it a soma design that grant tweaked?
Plus I wonder what the cost would be, if it is close to $1000 in my
opinion most people would go with a hillborne with thinner tires.
But this
Crazy!! Hopefully they'll use a nice steel, maybe Reynolds 525/531.
I'm heading out to Riv the end of this month. I'll try to get some
photos.
On Jan 8, 7:45 am, richard hargrove wrote:
> Eric Norris wrote:
> > A Riv made with 4140 tubing? Let's hope Soma uses
> > some decent tubing for the fram
Eric Norris wrote:
> A Riv made with 4140 tubing? Let's hope Soma uses
> some decent tubing for the frame ... and a flat fork crown.
While Surly frames are made with 4140 cromo, currently all Soma frames
are made with Tange Prestige tubing. I'd always assumed Tange Prestige
was not plain cromo.
A
I asked Grant, the fork is going to be threaded
On Jan 7, 3:54 pm, Mike wrote:
> I wouldn't be surprised at all. But I would still hope that it's a
> typo and this frame will be available in 2010.
>
> On Jan 7, 3:52 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> > You might be surprised at how long it takes to
I wouldn't be surprised at all. But I would still hope that it's a
typo and this frame will be available in 2010.
On Jan 7, 3:52 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> You might be surprised at how long it takes to get some of these frame
> projects from initial conception to delivered product.
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On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 15:48 -0800, Mike wrote:
> This is good news. Hopefully there will be a threaded fork option like
> with the Roadeo. And hopefully the referene to this being a project
> for 2011 is a typo.
You might be surprised at how long it takes to get some of these frame
projects from i
This is good news. Hopefully there will be a threaded fork option like
with the Roadeo. And hopefully the referene to this being a project
for 2011 is a typo.
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That would be my favorite style - plain lugs, single color paint and great,
solid bike!
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>Subject: [RBW] Re: Soma Riv
>
>Maybe this is what we are talking about?
>
>http://www.f
Wow, that is nice! Looks like a carbon copy of the Romulus... that
will certainly sell if they get the fork and tubing right.
I've had a Reynolds 631 Soma Double Cross for 4 years and it rides
really well... just missing some nice lugs.
must be caused by that hip San Francisco bike vibe!
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Yeah thats the frame I saw and it had the same soma logo on the
downtube. No fork
was on the frame.
On Jan 7, 1:40 pm, Eric Norris wrote:
> A Riv made with 4140 tubing? Let's hope Soma uses some decent tubing for the
> frame ... and a flat fork crown.
>
> --Eric
> campyonly...@me.comwww.campyon
Yeah thats the frame I saw and it had the same soma downtube. No fork
was on the frame.
On Jan 7, 1:40 pm, Eric Norris wrote:
> A Riv made with 4140 tubing? Let's hope Soma uses some decent tubing for the
> frame ... and a flat fork crown.
>
> --Eric
> campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wh
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> I'm sure it is. Interesting, when the photo was first mentioned on one
> of the lists I subscribe to it was described as looking like a Romulus.
> Now it's clear why that is! According to the comment on the photo, the
> frame is "in the wo
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 13:35 -0800, franklyn wrote:
> Maybe this is what we are talking about?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/somafab/4251591019/
>
> Franklyn
>
> On Jan 7, 1:31 pm, Aaron Thomas wrote:
> > Get any pictures?
> >
> > On Jan 7, 1:16 pm, Andrew wrote:
> >
> > > I went to Rivendel
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:35 PM, franklyn wrote:
> Maybe this is what we are talking about?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/somafab/4251591019/
>
Wow, good find.
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Maybe this is what we are talking about?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/somafab/4251591019/
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On Jan 7, 1:31 pm, Aaron Thomas wrote:
> Get any pictures?
>
> On Jan 7, 1:16 pm, Andrew wrote:
>
> > I went to Rivendell today and saw a prototype Soma and Rivendell
> > collaboration frameset.
Get any pictures?
On Jan 7, 1:16 pm, Andrew wrote:
> I went to Rivendell today and saw a prototype Soma and Rivendell
> collaboration frameset. It has Riv lugs, roadeoish geometry and medium
> reach brakes. It looks like a romulus and rambouillet mix, its tealish
> blue with fancy lugs but no co
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