[RBW] Re: Silver shifter surgery and corrosive metal welding

2024-09-04 Thread AppaLanta
To add to JohnS's response, in this specific case, brass, being the "more noble" of the metals (see Wiki on Galvanic Corrosion) is causing the degredation of the "less noble" of the metals. The more distant the metals are on the Galvanic Chart the more likely the reaction. So, for example the

[RBW] Re: Silver shifter surgery and corrosive metal welding

2024-09-04 Thread JohnS
Thanks for sharing Eric, that would be galvanic corrosion... [image: GalvanicCorrosion.png] On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 11:58:20 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > *Before we begin I must admit that I should have documented the process > below in greater detail. I realize it would have

[RBW] Re: Silver shifter repair

2023-11-17 Thread Eric Marth
Hello MTR — I've disassembled Silver shifters for repairs but have not had one of the cover plates pop off on its own like yours. That is some brave free-hand drilling you've depicted! I've found the plates are relatively easy to re-install and can be pressure fit or set into place with a vise

[RBW] Re: Silver shifter repair

2023-11-17 Thread JohnS
Looks good! It shouldn't come loose, nothing is acting on it to loosen it. JohnS On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 11:19:14 PM UTC-5 MTR wrote: > Posting my repair > > I used the smallest sheet metal screw I could find at Ace 3/32 inch and > the matching drill bit to drill perpendicular throug

[RBW] Re: Silver shifter repair

2023-11-14 Thread JohnS
That's what I would do. I don't think there's any other options. JohnS On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:04:11 PM UTC-5 MTR wrote: > I have a set Dia Comp knockoff silver shifters that have partially broken, > I was wondering if anybody had any ideas on how to fix them. See the > attached pi

Re: [RBW] Re: silver shifter 2 thumb mounts

2020-03-12 Thread Joe Bernard
The newsletter says they have the mounts but waiting on shims. Listing on the Riv site should be by the end of March. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: silver shifter 2 thumb mounts

2020-03-11 Thread Andrew Turner
I can't say 100% since I haven't personally tested. I truly don't see why they wouldn't since they work with DT shifters, theirs included which are basically the same as silver power ratchets. The shifter's due to arrive either this weekend or Monday so I'll keep you posted. On Wednesday, Marc

Re: [RBW] Re: silver shifter 2 thumb mounts

2020-03-11 Thread Tom Horton
So you re sure the vo mounts will work? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 11, 2020, at 5:16 PM, Andrew Turner wrote: > > I'm in the exact same boat so I ordered the VO shifter mounts. Though I > haven't used them with the thumbies personally (those are still in the mail), > others have with good t

[RBW] Re: silver shifter 2 thumb mounts

2020-03-11 Thread Andrew Turner
I'm in the exact same boat so I ordered the VO shifter mounts . Though I haven't used them with the thumbies personally (those are still in the mail), others have with good things to say. A little pricey bu

[RBW] Re: silver shifter 2 thumb mounts

2020-03-11 Thread Joe Bernard
Will is very good about putting supply updates in the weekly newsletter, as well as Instagram. We'll know about the mounts when they come in. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: silver shifter 2 thumb mounts

2020-03-11 Thread Bill Lindsay
To get an update on the mounts, call Riv. They are skeleton crew and for all we know the mounts could be there but updating the site is item number 37 on the list of things to do. The best workaround that I know of would be to buy these https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/product/56020-ird-p

[RBW] Re: silver shifter adapter for Paul thumbies

2019-05-31 Thread Yves Demers
Anybody have a pair of adapters they would sell, with or without shifters? Many thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+uns

[RBW] Re: silver shifter adapter for Paul thumbies

2018-09-13 Thread Joe Bernard
This video shows how to install a Silver shifter on a downtube. You can see how seating the plastic washer is kind of finicky, I've done it wrong a half-dozen times and gotten the 'wobble' you're describing. https://youtu.be/JSdXdWQ4JeI -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: silver shifter adapter for Paul thumbies

2018-09-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Hi Jason, I just found a set. Text me your address and I'll get 'em out to you, then you can pay whatever it cost to ship in a padded envelope. Joe Bernard 415 786 4623 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from t

[RBW] Re: silver shifter adapter for Paul thumbies

2018-09-04 Thread Ginz
The velo orange mount might work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: silver shifter adapter for Paul thumbies

2018-09-04 Thread jandrews
FYI, for those interested, neither Rivendell nor Paul Comp has these items any longer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsu

[RBW] Re: silver shifter adapter for Paul thumbies

2018-09-03 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Yes, top picture! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own

[RBW] Re: silver shifter adapter for Paul thumbies

2018-09-03 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Jason, The first/top ones I believe. I do have some but they are needed for a build. That said, if I find extras in the parts stash, I will let you know. I did call Paul's at one point to see if they had them directly but they sent me back to Rivendell in my search. Hopefully they will make

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2018-03-20 Thread masmojo
Entirely too late to make any real difference, but a couple ideas I had while reading this thread. First, a cam shape would help with lever throw issues. (Even though it would complicate the design/engineering exponentially & probably make it not cost effective) Second, maybe a segmented lever

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter question

2018-01-01 Thread R Shannon
Joe, right you are. If I didn't already have the parts I would be inclined to wait for the new shifters. John, thank you for your input! Best regards, Richard On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > Don't forget that Riv is coming out with a new Silver thumbshifter soon. > > -- >

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter question

2018-01-01 Thread Joe Bernard
Don't forget that Riv is coming out with a new Silver thumbshifter soon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@google

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter question

2018-01-01 Thread R Shannon
Hey Guys: Many thanks for your observations. I've been using a Shimano for a thumb shifter on my Atlantis but would like to move that to a Roadeo (with bar ends) I'm building. Currently using Silvers as bar ends and down tubers but no experience as a thumbie. Thank you and best wishes for a happy

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter question

2018-01-01 Thread Howard Hatten
I was able to shift 10 speed using the Paul thimble , silver shifter combo. No problem Howard Livonia Mi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter question

2018-01-01 Thread Bob Lovejoy
I use that combination and love how they work. That said, I have only used them for old-school 8-speed configs and don't have a ton of miles on any particular set. That said, set up as bar top shifters they are the most accessible, intuitive and best tactile feel shifters I have ever used. I

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-13 Thread Bill Eberle in Columbus, Ohio
Well the folks at RBW are known to always go the extra mile. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. T

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-13 Thread LBleriot
Hey, my kvetching about cable pull on Silver Shifters resulted in a BLUG hack! How cool is that? On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 12:50:28 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > The BLUG today documents a method to get slightly > more cable pull out of a Silver shifter. > > BL > -- You received

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-13 Thread lum gim fong
Rivendell Shark bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-12 Thread Bill Lindsay
The BLUG today documents a method to get slightly more cable pull out of a Silver shifter. BL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-b

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-09 Thread Belopsky
I'd love to see a geometry of the smaller sizes On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 5:32:00 PM UTC-6, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > Note to non-deacon Patrick about the singlespeeder: > Name: Frank Jones Sr. > Not for: 26-inch wheels! ha. > Upslope: 3-deg > New lug seat tube super boss > Custom lu

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-09 Thread Belopsky
I'm impatiently waiting for the Frank Jones. If one of the smaller sizes fits me, I'm buying. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Returning to the subject: One of the best fitting bikes I owned was a 1958 Herse with a 56 or 56 1/2 cm tt and a 60 cm st, that measurement being c-c. And long ago, 1989 or 1990, I got measured at REI for a bike by one of their pros (pro fitter, pro rider -- he was on their racing team) and he reco

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-08 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Tall, lugged, roadish frame with the filleted and curved bubbe tube? Consider me diverted... I’ll admit I was even more excited thinking for a moment that this could be a one off/small batch tall mans Senor Frank Jones but the down tube cable stops said otherwise. You still have my attention

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-07 Thread Kainalu V.
Classy fillets. Biggish road frame means not being huge? 1 size fits all kinda large folks? A 68 roadini would fly off the shelves! -Kai BK NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivi

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-07 Thread Ray Varella
I suspect no one has said anything because there wasn’t a spy photo on the BLUG to create the typical buzz here at the cyber-water cooler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving ema

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-07 Thread Joe Bernard
Not only did I not say anything, but I was at Riv today and forgot to look for it. Dangit! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-07 Thread Grant Petersen
No, it's a prototype, something we'll be trying out and maybe do to a biggish roadish frame next year. I'm surprised nobody's said anything. It's fne, though! On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Ray Varella wrote: > No one has mentioned the diversion attachment, > Grant, is that the illegitimate lov

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-07 Thread Ray Varella
No one has mentioned the diversion attachment, Grant, is that the illegitimate love child of a truss frame and double top tube frame? Now the PETA folks will be after us to spay and neuter our bikes, the shelters are full. Ray Vallejo CA -- You received this message because you are subscribe

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-07 Thread Joe Bernard
Fat tires, fat bikes, I bring you...fat brakes! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to thi

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-07 Thread Grant Petersen
No, I meant 610mm. World records. On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Peter Adler wrote: > 610mm = 61cm = 24" and change. You mean 61mm, yes? > > Peter Adler > who bought a set of those @100mm cruiser Tektro DP sidepulls at a > warehouse sale a few years back, decided that the mechanical advantage

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-07 Thread Peter Adler
610mm = 61cm = 24" and change. You mean 61mm, yes? Peter Adler who bought a set of those @100mm cruiser Tektro DP sidepulls at a warehouse sale a few years back, decided that the mechanical advantage made them unusable for stopping bikes, and cannibalized the nutted bolts to convert the Allen-w

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-07 Thread Patrick Moore
Mixte fixie. If I do anything, I probably will get someone to respace the 2003 Curt bike to 120-125 mm OL to accommodate that AM hub; the hub is spaced at 114, but the axle is long enough to take 5 mm of spacers on each end; though will have to adjust shifting adjustment accordingly. We'll see. Wi

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Ooh, a singlespeed (the other SS) mixte. My mixte (Cheviot) is going to be a Will-style 2-speed, so of course non-deacon Patrick is going to one up me with a fixie. Balderdash! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Grant Petersen
Note to non-deacon Patrick: Your size is a mixte! On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > *That's *what I had in mind. Thanks. > > Non-diaconal-Patrick, who damn' well won't buy a 59, in ABQ, NM. > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Grant Petersen > wrote: > >> Note to non-deacon

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Patrick Moore
*That's *what I had in mind. Thanks. Non-diaconal-Patrick, who damn' well won't buy a 59, in ABQ, NM. On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Grant Petersen wrote: > Note to non-deacon Patrick about the singlespeeder: > Name: Frank Jones Sr. > Not for: 26-inch wheels! ha. > Upslope: 3-deg > New lug se

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Eric Norris
Yeah, the levers with the ratchets inside. Did I get the name wrong? –Eric N > On Dec 6, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Adam Kilgas wrote: > > From the drawing, the Frank Jones SR reminds me of a single-speed Sam > Hillborne with a 28.6 downtube... In fact, isn't that the same top tube as on > a Sam? >

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Adam Kilgas
>From the drawing, the Frank Jones SR reminds me of a single-speed Sam >Hillborne with a 28.6 downtube... In fact, isn't that the same top tube as on >a Sam? ...I like it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe fro

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Eric: Suntour Microshift? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email t

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Eric Norris
Campagnolo did something similar with the first version of their indexed shifting. It was a disaster. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to stock all of those small parts—hard enough to get shops to sell friction levers! Another idea—also probably not viable—would be for Grant/Someone to buy up all

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Patrick Moore
One last remark on this: Proof of this: Milton Friedman is taken seriously. *"There is one and only one social responsibility of business – to use its resources and engage in activities designed to increase its profits so long as it stays within the rules of the game, which is to say, engages in o

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread dougP
There are many wonderful things about this forum. I've met some fascinating characters & learned all kinds of stuff I would never encounter elsewhere. Just today, I learned about barrel diameters of shifters, for instance. I really enjoy the occasional posts from Grant about Rivendell. He g

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Patrick Moore
"...where they provide value ..." Yes, but: What these terms and others of the ilk mean in the context of the resumes I write is: make everything as cheap as possible in order to give the C-levels bigger bonuses; and I'm serious. Big companies make things in order to get money, not to make a good

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Garth
You mean like the original Sun Tour Thumbshifters have a larger diameter internal ratchet mechanism ? On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 3:07:01 PM UTC-5, LBleriot wrote: > > the* groove diameter a little larger*! > > > > On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 12:51:01 PM UTC-5, Grant @ Rivendel

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:07 PM, LBleriot wrote: > ... then takes some of the profit and "improves" the beautiful Silver > shifters by making the groove diameter a little larger! > I wonder if this would work if, instead of having a one piece handle and cylinder/groove, the groove is on a separa

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Jim Bronson
I like all those things like "resource optimization" and "cost efficiencies" where they provide value to actual human beings, but I still ride Rivendells because the experience behind the handlebars is a sublime one. I've had go-fast bikes but I keep coming back to my Rivendells because they are a

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread LBleriot
As a devout sub-10 speed DT friction shifter retro grouch, I hope Rivendell sells a ton of these thumb shifters and prospers, then takes some of the profit and "improves" the beautiful Silver shifters by making the groove diameter a little larger! Now, I gotta go and buy up all the existing st

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Doug H.
I returned to biking as a young adult and could not understand why I didn't like it as much. I had a "high-end" road bike and the kit (lycra with pads in all the right places). I dreaded the long rides but was happy I made it when it was over. Then I read "Just Ride" by Grant and the light came

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Patrick Moore
... Patrick Moore, who belatedly realized that "SS" means "Silver Shifter" and not "Single Speed". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjYoNL4g5Vg On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Grant said: "The SS project started out a dumb lark in the early 2000s, > and has been tremendou

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Grant said: "The SS project started out a dumb lark in the early 2000s, and has been tremendously successful. Not financially, but from the point of view that lots of riders have been given the chance to learn friction shifting, and if no SILVER, no chance. That's not important in the big picture,

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
Sentence 3 should be "..we CAN'T afford to do everything." On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 9:37:12 AM UTC-8, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > All is well here with the SS2 thing. We're not oblivious to double-digit > speed cassettes and the 1xwhatevers, and aren't even dismissive of them. We > can

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-06 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
All is well here with the SS2 thing. We're not oblivious to double-digit speed cassettes and the 1xwhatevers, and aren't even dismissive of them. We can afford to address everything and we can't afford to do most of what we do that makes us good or special. Nothing we do makes sense financially,

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-05 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm sorry, Jim. I know the Riv folks personally and have a reasonable idea of how precarious business is in today's 'Amazon economy', so I tend to take this type of thing personally. I'll try harder. Joe Bernard Novato CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-05 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
As a tenet of this group, we've always allowed members to express opinions. If someone genuinely dislikes all the RBW designs, this probably isn't the group for them, of course. But not everyone has to think everything is awesome. Nothing anyone makes is going to work for everyone, and if some

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-05 Thread Garth
That's the point Joe, none of us are choir boys, none of us are mister nice. Yet we are, the Earth never stops rotating and the Sun ever rises, this Group rolls on despite it ☺ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To un

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Joe Bernard
I've had the old Suntour Power Ratchet thumbies and they're fabulous. I think they would be great as inside-the-bar shifters like Riv specs on Clems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop re

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread dougP
Bear in mind these are prototypes only, probably to check all the fiddly details before going into production. I would expect the finish to be up to the usual Rivendell standards & present well on a nice bike. As to the aesthetic, well, if you liked the originals (which I do), these will look

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Bill Lindsay
Marc said: "the shape of the prototype is more suitable to bar end and thumby duties, and could look a little awkward and stubby and maybe slightly distracting on a down tube" I agree that based just on aesthetics, they'd be weird on the downtube. I'm going to pre-emptively DISAPPROVE of anybo

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
[image: image] While it's kinda cool to have shifters that can function in several different positions on the bike, there will inevitably be compromises. With that ergonomic curve, I would tend to agree that the shape of the prototype is more suitable to bar end and thumby duties, and could look

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Joe Bernard
It's a project - as I have already stated - that has had a long gestation period, some of it painful for the person behind it. I happen to think this is neither the time nor place to declare it YUCK. If you want to suggest improvements to the design, I presume "I wish the barrel were bigger" wou

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread LBleriot
Did you wake up on the wrong side of the shifter today? Relax man. It’s a little piece of metal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owner

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Joe Bernard
So you want a Silver shifter that you like the looks of to have a bigger barrel like the Dia-Compe you don't like the looks of, which had nothing to do with the new shifter which is "yuck." No, I don't get it. Buy a shifter you like instead of trashing one that isn't even in final form yet. --

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Joe Bernard
I didn't stifle your opinion, I objected to it. It's stupid. Have a nice day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@g

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread LBleriot
In order to shift my chain to the largest cog of a 10 Speed cassette using a Silver shifter, I need to move the lever almost parallel to the down tube. Enlarging the barrel, like the VO version of the DiaCompe shifter, requires less travel of the lever. I happen to like the look of the Silver

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread LBleriot
I thought this was a forum where we are free to express and share our opinions of Riv products in a respectful and open manner. Is there some rule that I haven’t read requiring only positive reviews? I buy Riv products that I like; quite a lot of them actually. I don’t buy their products that

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 12/04/2017 08:58 PM, John Hawrylak wrote: Is there an issue with the current Silver Shifters with cable pull??  I really don't know, but would appreciate an education.  I read the rBW description of currnet shifters and see only an issue with cog/derailleur movement There is for Shiman

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Silvers work fine with 9-speed, and 10 would be the same throw. They're probably not great for 11, but I doubt there's any perceptible market for a friction 11-speed shifter. This criticism about barrel size doesn't make a lick of sense to me. -- You received this message because you are subs

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread John Hawrylak
Is there an issue with the current Silver Shifters with cable pull?? I really don't know, but would appreciate an education. I read the rBW description of currnet shifters and see only an issue with cog/derailleur movement John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 9:12:54 PM

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Christopher Murray
If someone wants to express their dislike or critique of a product I think we should welcome it. Is this a discussion or cheerleading? I think if everyone can be polite and respectful then their should be enough room here for everyone’s opionions. I'm AM going with "two sides to a story" and "ev

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Bob B
I bet it will work really well, because Silvers do and Riv cares, duh... Plus, prototypes are prototypes. Design is iterative. I might be talking out of my ass here, but I was also kinda thinking the look of these shifters—besides taking a note from the old Suntours—could be part of an evolutio

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Joe Bernard
But I'm not willing to play Mr. High Road. This thread is about the fabulous news that the new shifter project is back on - its earlier demise seemed quite depressing for Grant, a person I know and like - and I don't see the point in chiming in about how "yucky" it is. So no, I'm not going with

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread dougP
It's just levers pulling cable. We all need to keep a bit of perspective. dougP On Monday, December 4, 2017 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-8, Garth wrote: > > Sheesh, we're all big boys and girls here, so someone expresses a "yucky" > view of the shifters that are not even in production and no spec known,

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Garth
Sheesh, we're all big boys and girls here, so someone expresses a "yucky" view of the shifters that are not even in production and no spec known, it's just an initial honest opinion, and you know what they say about opinions ... we all got one. So what ! Hey, we all have our own ideas

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Reed Kennedy
If you need more cable pull it has already been innovated: https://velo-orange.com/collections/shifters/products/dia-compe-ene-11s-dt-shifters I figure that a bigger barrel will just make the shifter even more sensitive to small movement, though. I've had good luck with Silver V1s and Simplex retr

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Bill Lindsay
I think the point Joe is making is that many of us have been watching this project with interest and maybe some anticipation. Some of us are fond of Rivendell Bicycle Works and would like to see them succeed. When news comes out that a previously shelved project is rising from the dead, people

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread LBleriot
'cause then I'd be posting to another Google group, right? On Monday, December 4, 2017 at 3:41:39 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Why not buy a different shifter you don't think is yucky? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Why not buy a different shifter you don't think is yucky? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To p

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread adam leibow
IME these work well with up to 10speed in the cable pull department, but I haven't tried 11sp. I've used them with multiple bikes, derailers, and cassettes/chains including 8, 9, and 10s, and combinations that don't technically match, like a 9s rear derailer with 10s cassette or vice versa. all

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

2017-12-04 Thread LBleriot
I said it before and I'll say it again. As DT shifters, these look as bad as the old Silver shifters used as thumbies. Yuck. Why not do something innovative and make the barrel on the right shifter larger to pull more cable/shift more than 8 speeds easily? On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 9:12

[RBW] Re: Silver shifter covers

2016-08-18 Thread sameness
I've never spilled borscht on my tie. I've also never had borscht, and I don't own a tie. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, s

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver shifter covers

2016-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/18/2016 02:53 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: I have dipped Silver Shifters in PlastiDip, which is the rubbery stuff you use to make tool handles grippy. That was strictly for looks and grippiness. I know of no cover product for a Silver Shifter that would enable you to jam the shifter into y

[RBW] Re: Silver shifter covers

2016-08-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
I have dipped Silver Shifters in PlastiDip, which is the rubbery stuff you use to make tool handles grippy. That was strictly for looks and grippiness. I know of no cover product for a Silver Shifter that would enable you to jam the shifter into your leg and have it not hurt. Maybe if you fi

[RBW] Re: Silver shifter covers

2016-08-18 Thread Philip Kim
maybe something like this? On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Them babies sure do hurt when they jam into your leg. What are folks

[RBW] Re: Silver shifter

2014-09-20 Thread Mike C518
Patrick, thank you for the offer but I looked and I am 852426179845337 that piece as we'll. actually all that I really have left is a tiny little piece of the shifter. I have no idea where the rest went! And Dave, good point! Thanks for the help Mike -- You received this message because you a

[RBW] Re: Silver shifter

2014-09-18 Thread Dave Johnston
At the very least you could swap them around so you have the micro ratchet on the right and the old whatever lever on the left for the front where the ratcheting doesn't matter as much. On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:29:23 PM UTC-4, mike...@yahoo.com wrote: > > This may be a long shot but I'

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter and/or Front Derailleur Issue(s)

2012-05-22 Thread Lynne Fitz
and finished a 400k on Sunday morning. Still working perfectly. On May 18, 2:09 pm, Lynne Fitz wrote: > My rear Silver shifter was intermittently doing that to me, always, of > course, at a Really Bad Time.  It was doing this from day 1.  I > tightened it down.  I tightened it down.  It would st

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter and/or Front Derailleur Issue(s)

2012-05-18 Thread Lynne Fitz
My rear Silver shifter was intermittently doing that to me, always, of course, at a Really Bad Time. It was doing this from day 1. I tightened it down. I tightened it down. It would still intermittently just lose it, even when it was really tight. Replaced the washers. Same thing. I now have

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter and/or Front Derailleur Issue(s)

2012-05-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
I use bees wax on my silver bar ends and find I still need to retighten the D ring about once a ride, maybe every 20 miles or so. Has anyone tried lock tite? michael On Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:07:03 PM UTC-4, Noel M. wrote: > > Zack, thank you for your input. I'll keep that in mind! > > Tha

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter and/or Front Derailleur Issue(s)

2012-05-17 Thread Noel M.
Zack, thank you for your input. I'll keep that in mind! Thank you. On Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:49:32 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote: > > and if it still slips, take it apart and put some beeswax on the threaded > bolt thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter and/or Front Derailleur Issue(s)

2012-05-17 Thread Zack
and if it still slips, take it apart and put some beeswax on the threaded bolt thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/s5gANRDrF6oJ.

[RBW] Re: silver shifter washers

2011-05-17 Thread doug peterson
Jason: I did the same thing as you. IIRC you can put the "tab stop" (?) on the pod side, away from the lever, in a couple of the 4 possible positions. I happened to have a pair of the ones without the tab that I used, but as said above, there are about a billion of those washers out there. FWIW

[RBW] Re: silver shifter washers

2011-05-17 Thread MichaelH
I would have sworn that my shifters came with both styles. In any case I would expect any good bike shop, or Riv, has a pair of these in its spare parts drawer, that not that rare since they were on virtually every road bike, with bar ends, sold for many decades. There's more than one size floatin

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