[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-27 Thread CycloFiend
on 11/27/08 5:25 PM, Angus at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The only thing that worried me is instead of sticking my fingers into > the spokes of the front wheel trying to find a DT shifter I will now > be able to stick my fingers into the spokes of the rear wheel while > trying to find the rod. Act

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-27 Thread Doug Peterson
2008 5:26 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter location Jim, The idea of a rod operated front derailleur appeals to me too. There was talk about Tony making a clamped on version that could be fitted to a frames other than his. I tried to contact Tony about purchasing one but never re

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-27 Thread Angus
Jim, The idea of a rod operated front derailleur appeals to me too. There was talk about Tony making a clamped on version that could be fitted to a frames other than his. I tried to contact Tony about purchasing one but never received a reply. I then purchased an OLD Huret rod operated front "

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-27 Thread CycloFiend
on 11/27/08 4:44 AM, todd22123 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there any disadvantage to using downtube for the front, and bar-end > for the rear? I shift the front derailer only about once for every 20 > or more for the rear. Nope. In fact, when I really get to bike-geeking, I keep thinking

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-27 Thread todd22123
Do you use indexing for only the rear derailer, or the front, as well? Is there any disadvantage to using downtube for the front, and bar-end for the rear? I shift the front derailer only about once for every 20 or more for the rear. Thanks, Todd Olsen recent new owner AHH On Nov 25, 9:46 am,

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread James Warren
RR39 includes what they called a "Spy Shot" of a shifter that Rivendell might release someday, and the shifter looks a bit like the Command shifter and a bit like the Kelly take-off, but it generally is more aesthetically pleasing than either. I'm hoping it appears someday. On Nov 26, 2008,

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:00 PM, CycloFiend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > One thing that on-the-brake shifting systems brought with them was cogsets > which were much less finicky to shifting under load. That seems to have led > to folks who _expect_ flawless shifting under load. They try to thr

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread Tim McNamara
On Nov 26, 2008, at 8:19 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Eric Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> That was Suntour's "Command" shifter. You can read about it here: >> >> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/suntour.html >> >> And see it here: >> >> http://img2.travelbl

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Eric Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That was Suntour's "Command" shifter. You can read about it here: > > http://www.sheldonbrown.com/suntour.html > > And see it here: > > http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/39/50753/t/305463-Take-Command-of-your-Shifts-0.jpg

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread CycloFiend
on 11/26/08 12:10 PM, Bill M. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I also don't tend to think that frequient shifting is a sign of a lack > of skill or experience as some have expressed. I would agree with you. But, I would say that frequent shifts at the wrong time are. One thing that on-the-brake

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Doug Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wondered when on the SS missionaries would be tempted to open a post > with a reference to shifting in the subject line. > > > > dougP > That's "fixed missionaries" to you, young man. Patrick "enlightened, converted,

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread Doug Peterson
I wondered when on the SS missionaries would be tempted to open a post with a reference to shifting in the subject line. dougP Patrick observed: But I personally don't see any reason not to put thumbshifters on drop bar flats. Me, I got rid of the shifting problem by doing away with mu

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread Eric Norris
That was Suntour's "Command" shifter. You can read about it here: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/suntour.html And see it here: http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/39/50753/t/305463-Take-Command-of-your-Shifts-0.jpg --Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Nov 26, 2008,

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread Doug Peterson
SV: A few years back someone made a shifter that attached to the handlebars & IIRC it looked like a wing nut. Can't recall who had them (maybe Riv?) but maybe this will jog a better memory than mine. I've tried thumbies on the tops. It's a cheap experiment. It didn't work for me but there are

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Seth Vidal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Is there a good location for non-brifters if you're on the hoods most > of the time? I've found DT shifters are a bit of a stretch for me and > bar ends are okay, but kind of an odd movement from the drops. I've > act

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread James Warren
Thumbies on the flats is outstanding. If I could afford it, I'd convert all my bikes to that. -Original Message- >From: Seth Vidal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Nov 26, 2008 1:06 PM >To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter location > >

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread Bill M.
Kelly Take Off shifter mounts put DT levers just inboard of the hoods. I believe they are out of production, but the web site's still up. See http://www.kellybike.com/2nd_xtra_takeoff.html. They are sporadically available on e-bay. I have never used them, but they did have their fans. I start

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Doug Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David: > > You may be able to convert to DT without changing all the tape. > > DTs sure look a lot cleaner than having cable housings hanging off the front > of the bike. But my bike is junked up with a small handlebar

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread Doug Peterson
it will have DT shift levers. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooklyn Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:02 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter location HIi all, On my year-old Atlantis I had it

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread tallsteelbikes
> > From: MichaelH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:16:28 AM > Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter location > > I tried bar ends last year, after 25 years with DT and 2 with > brifters.  I found I

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-26 Thread Brooklyn
HIi all, On my year-old Atlantis I had it built with bar ends, because I have exprience with them on an ol road bike.However, I am a bit sorry that I did not have the bike built with DT shifting.Fisrt of all, I have a tendency to bump the shifters when I am straddleing the bike. This ha

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-25 Thread George Schick
Lisa - you already sound like a mature cyclist who knows that constant shifting is for the most part unnecessary. So your conversion to brifters was one of convenience and, as long as you are willing to spend the extra money to buy them and endure the monetary loss you'll incur should you crash a

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-25 Thread rcnute
Thanks, Jim! On Nov 24, 11:36 pm, CycloFiend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 11/24/08 9:34 PM, CycloFiend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > There's a person on the Bleriot registry page - > > >http://www.tfl.net/Bleriot/BleriotRegistry.htm > > > who states they've mounted a campy set of shift

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-25 Thread Big Paulie
Having been through the shifter mill -- including stints with both Shimano and Campy brifters -- I'm back to DT. Clean, simple, and easy to use. I do, however, prefer indexed shifting. I bring this up just to make the point that I'm not stuck on any kind of retro aesthetic. Of the other options,

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-25 Thread Bruce
andle the 9s casette.) Here's a pic of that set up. http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2115183396/ Bruce From: MichaelH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:16:28 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter lo

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-25 Thread MichaelH
I tried bar ends last year, after 25 years with DT and 2 with brifters. I found I really liked the closeness of the shifters when commuting in heavy traffic or on steep, rolling terrain, where I shift more often. But I've never gotten bar ends to shift as reliably or hold the gear consistently a

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-25 Thread Horace
One might consider looking for an old stem shifter mount -- those won't work on most modern bikes, but they'll work on bikes with quill stems. Horace. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:36 PM, CycloFiend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > on 11/24/08 9:34 PM, CycloFiend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > T

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-25 Thread Lisa -S.H.
George Schick wrote: > Seems > like DT shifters also train you to shift only when you really need to > - I've ridden along with people who have brifter-equipped bikes and > all I ever heard was shifting going on for the slightest little rise > or drop in elevation. I had bar end shifters on my R

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-24 Thread Esteban
Those tt shifters are pretty cool - you just wouldn't want to run straight into a wall at a reasonable speed. Ouch! What about some vintage stem mounted shifters? Same problem with the wall, though. On Nov 24, 11:36 pm, CycloFiend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 11/24/08 9:34 PM, CycloFiend at

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-24 Thread CycloFiend
on 11/24/08 9:34 PM, CycloFiend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > There's a person on the Bleriot registry page - > > http://www.tfl.net/Bleriot/BleriotRegistry.htm > > who states they've mounted a campy set of shifters on the top tube. I've > emailed him to see if he has any photos available. R

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-24 Thread CycloFiend
on 11/24/08 7:20 PM, rcnute at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Is there a clamp which would allow DT shifters on a Bleriot? > I know this question came up either on the Bleriot list or the 650B list... ...dit, dit, dit... hmmm Well. Nottalotta options. I _thought_ I recalled someone who ha

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-24 Thread Mike
On Nov 24, 7:20 pm, rcnute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a clamp which would allow DT shifters on a Bleriot? I think they used to make them for older bikes but the Bleriot has an OS downtube right? Might be hard to get something that could fit. DT shifter braze ons could be added. I've

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-24 Thread rcnute
Is there a clamp which would allow DT shifters on a Bleriot? On Nov 24, 7:17 pm, George Schick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'Nother nice thing about DT vs. barcon shifters - you only need one > hand to do the shifting.  Also, I figure if I'm riding on the brake > levers most of the time and I'd h

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-24 Thread George Schick
'Nother nice thing about DT vs. barcon shifters - you only need one hand to do the shifting. Also, I figure if I'm riding on the brake levers most of the time and I'd have to move my hand down to the end of the bar to shift (well, both hands, depending upon the gear desired) I might as well move

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-24 Thread Doug Peterson
And there's no denying that DT shifters are the most aesthetically pleasing set up. I've used bar ends for 20 years & there's no denying the clutter of cables around the handlebars can't be made to look good. But they are functional. dougP --~--~-~--~~~--

[RBW] Re: Shifter location

2008-11-24 Thread Ray Shine
Angus - I recently made the same shift (pardon the pun) to DT shifters on my Atlantis.  I also went friction rather than indexed.  I must admit that it is a little more inconvenient, but I knew that going in, and that is partly why I did it.  I love riding my Quickbeam around because I don't wor