[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-05 Thread William
r me.  Those > are nice looking bikes.   > > > From: William > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 4:53:14 PM > Subject: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed > > It would likely look really similar to a 1993 XO-3 > > Like this: > > ht

Re: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-05 Thread Ray Shine
, for taking the time to look those pix up for me. Those are nice looking bikes. From: William To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 4:53:14 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed It would likely look really similar to a 1993 XO-3

[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-05 Thread William
o see a photo of those reversed Alba bars.  Do you have any?   > Or a link?  Are you using thumb shifters? > > > From: Ginz > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 7:17:34 AM > Subject: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-05 Thread Ray Shine
I'd sure like to see a photo of those reversed Alba bars. Do you have any? Or a link? Are you using thumb shifters? From: Ginz To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 7:17:34 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed > It see

[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-05 Thread Garth
Riv frames have in the past typically had shorter TT's. I've read many complaints about this. It's good they've made some longer ones now. They have sufficient variety in frames to fit about anyone. Longer TT's are perfect for using Albatross bars and such. To me a bike is better balanced with a

[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-05 Thread Ginz
> It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells > frames are not designed for drop bars.  With the long top tubes you > need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach. Agreed. If you've got the long arms, then a slightly shorter stem (Nitto Dirt Drop)

[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-05 Thread Way Rebb
Double top tubes seem fairly common here in Singapore. I've see quite a few. Many are old and made by Raleigh. They all seem to have seen years of use. People just ride them to get where they are going. Rivendell may have a more world view of bikes. I like the way they look and seem to take a be

Re: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-04 Thread cyclotourist
I'm pretty stoked about the longer tt. The 58 was the right length, but not enough standover. Plus I didn't want the double tt (I like flexy bikes!). The 54 had the right standover, but wasn't long enough. Voila, now a 54 is back in play for me! On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:27 PM, happyriding wro

[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-04 Thread happyriding
On May 4, 10:40 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 5/4/10 6:23 AM, Rene Sterental at orthie...@gmail.com wrote: > > > That's the concept that I liked; the long diagonal. > > Breezers (original like that one) had a long diagonal (i.e. headtube to rear > dropout), but they were separate parrallel tubes. A b

[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-04 Thread happyriding
On May 4, 12:47 pm, William wrote: > Mike > > I'm a terrible double-replyer, so I'm sorry about that.  I just called > Keven and he said that the 54 and 58 prototypes were built correctly > to the numbers that are currently on the Riv-site.  The finals will be > longer, so the numbers are changing

[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-04 Thread newenglandbike
Rene: William is right- the *actual* TT length on the 60cm B'dil is 61cm, but the theoretical horizontal measurement is 63cm On May 4, 5:21 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > I thought I read in the Bomba's geometry chart that the horizontal top > tube was 61cm. I'll recheck it again when I get hom

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2010-05-04 Thread William
Rene Your 60cm Bombadil has an effective top tube length of 63cm. So the 58cm Hunqapillar will be 1cm shorter in reach than your Bombadil, and the 58cm Hunqapillar will have 2cm more standover clearance than your Bombadil. Seems like the 58 Hunqa fits nicely between a 56 Bomba and a 60 Bomba. M

Re: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-04 Thread Rene Sterental
That would be too long for me, as the Bombadil 60 has a top tube of 61 and I wouldn't be able to use a shorter frame. The 54 would end up being quite low, forcing a lot of seat post/stem to show to reach the right height and bar/saddle height ratio... I guess that will still keep my best fitted on

Re: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-04 Thread Rene Sterental
That is roughly how my 60 Bombadil fits me, although I believe that with the Marathon Supreme 700x50 I actually get about 1 inch. (I ride a 61 AHH). Still, when I straddle the bike I can feel the top tube right in "there". I get the extra lift by pushing hard against my bones just like Grant states

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2010-05-04 Thread William
Mike I'm a terrible double-replyer, so I'm sorry about that. I just called Keven and he said that the 54 and 58 prototypes were built correctly to the numbers that are currently on the Riv-site. The finals will be longer, so the numbers are changing. The Hunqa numbers claim that the 54 has a 58

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2010-05-04 Thread William
Michael The 54 will absolutely be a single top tube. When Keven said that the 54 will be 1.5 cm longer, it did not occur to me to ask if the first prototypes were built 1.5cm too short or if they changed the number from the PDF file on the Riv site to 1.5cm longer. With my PBH of 87, standing ov

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2010-05-04 Thread Michael_S
Will the 54 still be a single top tube or will it have the diagonal tube also? If what Keven says is true I should get the 54 also ( 86 PBH but long torso/arms). Any news on the delivery date of the final production versions? ~Mike~ On May 4, 11:04 am, William wrote: > Jim > > I just did th

[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-04 Thread William
Jim I just did the same thing this morning (rode the 54 and 58), and had the same reaction (I liked the cockpit size of the 58 but was freaked at the standover). My PBH is 87. Keven pointed out to me that the final 58 will be 2 full centimeters longer in the top tube, and the 54 will be 1.5cm lo

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2010-05-04 Thread Jim M.
That design sure looks like this photoshop proto by Marty: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306...@n07/4492630025/in/pool-1358...@n23 My PBH is on the cusp of 54/58. I test rode both last Saturday. Both are great handling, stable bikes but I prefer the 58. The 54 feels just a little cramped for my t

[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-04 Thread Oliver S.
While maybe less aesthetically pleasing than the "camper", this design is probably lighter and just as stout and stable. Plus, most of the time, you will be looking at the bike from atop it! Oliver On May 4, 6:23 am, Rene Sterental wrote: > That's the concept that I liked; the long diagonal. > >

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2010-05-04 Thread Garth
It looks rather odd like that .. like the diagonal tube should be extended. Loss of a prime bottle spot? Curious. I'm with Rene .. I'm really really glad to have a Bombadil :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post

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2010-05-03 Thread rob markwardt
> I once thought Rivendell bikes were ugly and look at me now... like we say in > Venezuela... "¡Nunca > digas que de esta agua no beberé!" And I, like usual, find myself thinking the opposite...saying that without knowing spanish, but longing for the pre-double-toptube days. No disrespect

[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-03 Thread Michael_S
I'll want to see the finished product but I like it better. Also he mentioned the next batch of Sam's... side pulls in big sizes and Canti equipped Waterford built frames too. ~Mike~ On May 3, 5:47 pm, James Valiensi wrote: > Hey, > Looks like a Joe Breeze mountain bike from 1978 or so. > > On

[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed

2010-05-03 Thread Johnny Alien
Not awful but I am glad I ride a smaller frame. On May 3, 6:54 pm, William wrote: > The Hunqapage on the Rivsite now has a photo of the design sheet for > the Diagonal 2TT. > > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/hunqapillar/50-713 > > In related news, Grant's post about the ropeswing says that