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> It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells
> frames are not designed for drop bars.  With the long top tubes you
> need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach.

Agreed.

If you've got the long arms, then a slightly shorter stem (Nitto Dirt
Drop) and drop bars could work.  I've got the short arms, so I've
completely given up on drop bars.  In fact, I've given up on Moustache
bars, as well.  My latest bike has an upside down and cut Albatross,
setup in Moustache fashion.  This gave me Moustache functionality and
effectively reduced the reach by 4cm which allowed me to run a frame
with a slightly longer top tube.  That's the best I could do.

My Hunqapillar, should I take the plunge, would require a Bull Moose
or a right-side up Albatross. Drops are out of the question.

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